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#1763224 - 02/03/10 04:33 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: tickweed]
102
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Thanks fellas, and BTW John
15 scorable points. Lots of "character" points near the bases and on the back not visible in photo. 13 plus inches of irregular bone.

I am not a scorer and did not know it could go non either until Monday. This was the first buck I ever got Officially scored. Funny thing, I took my best Illinois buck as well, thinking he'd go upper 140's to 150 net. He too, is a main frame eight, pretty clean with ONE sticker off G-2 (about 5 inches). I guessed him at a tad over 153 gross. He grossed right at 150 P/Y. After deductions for that sticker and SYMETRY, he dropped to 134 and change. A real "slap in the face" for this deer also. I put pics of that deer on here a while ago. (actually David J did it for me).

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#1763227 - 02/03/10 04:41 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: mathews338]
102
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Another point to ponder. THis buck has a split brow on his rt. Really cool looking. He also has GREAT character points. ALL TAKE AWAY FROM NET, FINAL SCORE typical.

My taxidermists and a couple other guys aged him at at least 6.5, though I really suck past about 4.5. I don't really care about age, in all honesty, in the public places I hunt, if a P/Y buck shows up while I am holding my bow, I don't care if he is 1.5.

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#1763257 - 02/03/10 05:29 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: 102]
Snake
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Registered: 05/03/09
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Loc: McMinn Co.Tennessee U.S.

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 Originally Posted By: 102
Over the last couple years, I've spent a bunch of time pondering such things as gross vs. net scores. The Boone and Crockett scoring system. Tenn. Deer Registry and all kinds of related topics. Kinda makes my head hurt. I've killed several "good" bucks. Several that GROSS Pope and Young. A few more that GROSS Tennessee Registry. However, when the REALITY of the scoring "system" hits, these "good" bucks sometimes fall short of the record books. WHY...because of something called SYMETRY! It seems that many years ago, when this scoring system was first implemented it was used as a record for keeping up with the where and whens of bucks killed all over the country (and world). It probably wasn't intended to be "fair" to the buck's antlers.

Here is a realization I made just yesterday, while learning of this bucks score. It is entirely possible, to have a truly MASSIVE, long tined, wide spread, NON_SYMETRICAL buck score LOW while appearing VERY impressive. And have a average spread, PERFECTLY symetrical, average mass yet long tined 10 point score higher, even though the antlers weigh several pounds LESS than the non-symetrical buck.

This is because the difference between the two main beams, as well as the "abnormal" points count AGAINST your total score.

My buck GROSSED nearly 170 inches of antler (including about a 17 inch spread). But, as a typical, it NETTED about 136. This is still a GREAT buck but as a non-typical...the "abnormal points" COUNT. So, to give credit where credit was due, I thought it better to go non-typical.

Now I know why MANY hunters only talk in terms of gross score when talking about a buck. I wish someone would start a system that counted ALL inches of antler, no deductions, and inside spread only. THis way, we'd have the inside spread and ALL bone measured. In other words, the BTR INCLUDING inside spread credit.

BTW, thanks Daryl!

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My thoughts exactly ! I even think they should do away with the inside spread because you are in reailty measuring air . ;\)
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#1763357 - 02/03/10 06:59 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: mathews338]
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Congrats! Hoss of a buck there!
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#1763424 - 02/03/10 07:38 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: MUP]
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I've always said that the Buckmaster scoring system--when inside spread is included--is the best scoring system.
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#1763433 - 02/03/10 07:46 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: megalomaniac]
Gray Ghost
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Congrats!
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#1763557 - 02/03/10 08:56 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: Gray Ghost]
Young Buck
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Dang nice buck,congratulations
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#1764058 - 02/03/10 12:04 PM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: mathews338]
Viper (tp)
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What a HOSS congrats!
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#1764261 - 02/03/10 01:34 PM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: Viper (tp)]
BigWes50
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I'm a hamilton county hunter myself and man what a great buck from here! A true tn giant! Congrats!
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#1766199 - 02/04/10 06:51 AM Re: Finally got him scored Officially [Re: 102]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: 102
My taxidermists and a couple other guys aged him at at least 6.5,

Isn't it amazing what their antlers can become when they're able to reach maturity?

I'd be almost as proud of that buck's age as his antlers ---- both making him a more unique trophy.

Congratulations on killing a mature buck with a unique rack! \:\)
And from the poor soils of East TN to boot -- Imagine That!

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