#1758779 - 02/01/10 02:27 AM
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bowriter
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Is there some kind of big push on to legalize baiting in TN? Seems to be a lot of baiting threads. I'm working my butt off behind the scenes to make even feeding illegal.
Of you want to know why, come sit on my patio and watch the parade. You don't even have to watch, you can hear it when the cars hit them crossing the road. Why do they cross the road? To get to the feed the sweet little lady puts out. Then they stop in my yard. Ever had 223 turkeys in your yard? What yard? They eat the dam covers off my smoker. The deer are so thick at night, I can't even go outside to pee. I'm not kidding. A man has got to able to pee outdoors. It is one of the few pleasures left to men my age. You don't have to aim and you don't have to clean up.
My neighbor shoots cherry bombs at them with a slingshot. He built a cage for his grandkids to play in so the turkeys wouldn't attack them. I'm not kidding.
This is all the result of feeding. If you live on a farm, out in the country and want to feed or bait, I could care less. But this feeding crap in the subs has got to stopped.
I had a neighbor who had three peacocks. I stopped that. They started pecking on my chrome bumper. I took them to her, threw them on the porch, and asked if she wanted them boiled or fried. I may do the same with these dam turkeys.
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#1758785 - 02/01/10 05:05 AM
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richmanbarbeque
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Sounds like if it is that bad you and your neighbors would ask the feeding neighbors to stop. Are they not getting their stuff damaged as well?
Shoot one with your crossbow come turkey season.
Baiting will be legal within a few years. Not for it just saying.
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#1758797 - 02/01/10 05:29 AM
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Setterman
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Loc: Knoxville, TN
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There is no reason to feed or bait wildlife, period. No one can make a biological case for the practices. It inflates populations, and stems some natural attrition as well. Outlaw it all.
Baiting will never be legal here, nor any of the majority of states where it is still illegal.
Edited by Setterman (02/01/10 05:30 AM)
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#1758854 - 02/01/10 06:36 AM
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BigWes50
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Sure has been alot of talk of it lately!
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#1758860 - 02/01/10 06:45 AM
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WestTn Huntin'man
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With or Without feeding/baiting population control in the suburbs is becoming more of a issue that needs to be addressed.No easy answers snipers,controlled hunts,relocateing,and birth control are all options being used in other states.How bad do the problems have to get before TWRA or TWRC does something??
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#1758868 - 02/01/10 06:58 AM
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Setterman
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You don't need to legalize bait to control populations. Miss and AL proved that by allowing folks to kill does. Deer just aren't that hard to kill.
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#1758892 - 02/01/10 07:15 AM
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bowriter
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What some of you are not taking into consideration is, I cannot legally shoot either the deer or turkeys. At all times they are either goimg to feed or coming from it.
However it looks like I may be getting some relief in the near future. It does no good to talk to the neighbors, they don't listen and don't care.
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#1758894 - 02/01/10 07:15 AM
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Coach
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I'm sorry..but, if deer really aren't that hard to kill then why the foodplots? I really think those that take such a strong stand on baiting and then post umpteen posts on food plots are hypocritical. Personally, I don't bait and that means I don't call it by any other name like "foodplot"....
In my opinion when you put in food specifically to attract and feed deer you are baiting. If I grow corn for the market and the deer get in it that's the nature of the business....If I grow biologic..well, there is no market for biologic, it's there to attract deer, grow bigger horns...and in the end shoot the the deer you are feeding.
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#1758902 - 02/01/10 07:24 AM
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44fanatic
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Dont know enough about baiting and feeding to give a answer...and have always believed in the philosphy that TWRA know what they are doing and will do what is best for the game and the hunters.
So...my answer to the question is a question
Are the current limits in TN achieving the TWRA goals? If so, I dont see the rulings on baiting changing. If not, Im sure they may come out with other alternatives before baiting becomes legal. And then there is the issue of does going nocturnal after they have been shot at a few times.
So my next question, what does baiting solve?
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#1758933 - 02/01/10 07:48 AM
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whistlinwingman
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Im sorry, but for me going out and working up a food plot, planting it, watching it grow and hope deer come use it are totally different than going to the co-op, buying a bag of corn, opening it and throwing it out are totally different.
Cows graze in a pasture but when you throw the sweet feed in a trough they come running. To me the big difference is that a pile of corn seems to domesticate deer and food plot is still a more natural approach. If others see a food plot as baiting that is fine. But me personally I feel there is a difference.
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