#1754492 - 01/30/10 09:06 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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I would have the FREEDOM OF CHOICE.....
I don't care if you hunt over a food plot or bait...
WHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THE WAY I HUNT ???
YOU WILL OR WILL NOT HUNT OVER BAIT, BUT DON'T TAKE AWAY MY CHOICE....... I dont really get that double d,to me its a rule like...its bow season,you cant gun hunt during bow season.No choice there either.Or the season is open or closed.No choice to hunt deer during May.
Sorry for the miss understanding. Yes I know the rules and yes it is illegal to hunt over bait.
My point to this topic is more on the rights of hunters. More and More rights are being lost every year. I don't care if you hunt over bait or not its a choice if it were legal. Does that clear it up some??? Hunters give a inch PETA will take a mile....
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#1754548 - 01/30/10 09:39 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Just wondering.Why do you want baiting legalized,if you do? Simple, lack of hunting skills!  j/k I agree with osduck5, but I'm NOT joking. The same can be said for ANYONE that hunts near food plots, mineral licks, agricultural fields. You are taking advantage of a mane made attractant.
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#1754632 - 01/30/10 10:46 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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I dont care either way. But its the same as salt licks or food plots, you are putting something there to attract the deer. Lots of people do it anyhow so why not.
I agree 100 %
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#1754685 - 01/30/10 11:20 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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i say let'em eat corn - my opinion - deer hunting is more about location than skill anyway. skill is important, but a good location is of higher value.
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#1754691 - 01/30/10 11:23 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Im just wondering if anyone will say anything besides making it easier to kill deer.What else could it be?
Easier to kill a deer yes, does and small bucks. Easier to kill a mature buck no, period. I hunt in Kentucky because I grew up in Kentucky and I have used corn piles to inventory my bucks. Last year, I had 16 bucks on my camera using my corn pile after gun season. The reason for the corn was to see what has been pressured. I don't hunt with a gun because it is too easy for me to shoot a buck at 300 hundred yards, which I have done.
Anyways, three of those 16 bucks were mature bucks. They came in at night and my camera captured them. I would not have known they were there without the corn. Hunting over corn is my option and I don't use it to kill mature bucks because it doesn't work. They associate the corn with humans and keep their distance until the safety of night. However, by knowing they are there, I learn the direction they come from and there bedding areas, along with their escape routes. Corn does not mean the person has a lack of skill. I have killed several pope and young bucks and none of them have come over corn.
Corn is an option. To me, I can kill a mature buck every year with a gun. Had a 140 eight point this year during gun season at 50 yards, but I only use a bow and couldn't get a shot. Corn has not proven successful mature harvests to me, since I have not killed a mature buck in two years and I have corn out. The problem on my property is the lack of cover. I have plenty of food since there is about 200 acres of crops. Most of the mature bucks stay on the adjoining property because of the thick cover and I can only use the rut to get them out early. I did have one mature 10 pt. this year in bow range, but his rack wasn't big enough.
Personally, I don't care what TN does about corn, but I hate hearing some guys on here say that mature bucks will be killed all the time. That just doesn't happen. If it is legalized, it is each person's choice and others should not degrade that person's hunting skills. Even the best hunters have bad years and don't kill a buck.
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#1754722 - 01/30/10 11:42 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Group "A" a hunting club with 1000 acres. . The neighbors plant food plots and make sanctuaries. Keeping the deer on their land. They use cameras to locate where the bucks travel and to see where the biggest ones are so they wont have to scout as much plus they have drawn deer to stay on their land. When the rut rolls around they will have most the does and because of the cameras no exactly where to find them. This brings in even more bucks.
Group "B" the hunter who lives next to Group A's 1000 acres. He has 50 acres, no fields covered in hickory, sweet gum and beech but no oaks. He has limited income. His chances of seeing a nice buck are very low. If allowed to put out bait he increases his chances of pulling some does even if temporarily to his land. Now the big buck normally won't get caught at the bait until after daylight even if a doe is in estrus. But now the hunter can back off the pile and figure out his best spot to catch a buck following a doe or waiting on dark.
Group "C" is on the opposite side of group B and they throw out corn illegally.
Difference in these groups one has money and one has nothing to draw the deer and one is hunting Illegally.
Baiting becomes legal and the playing field is equaled out at least a little.
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#1754724 - 01/30/10 11:43 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Just wondering.Why do you want baiting legalized,if you do? Simple, lack of hunting skills! j/k I agree with osduck5, but I'm NOT joking. The same can be said for ANYONE that hunts near food plots, mineral licks, agricultural fields. You are taking advantage of a mane made attractant.
Riiight...
Yeah, I'm buying that faulty logic.
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#1754727 - 01/30/10 11:44 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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All good points.Personally,I,ve never done it,and probably wouldnt if legal,but to each his on.
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#1754728 - 01/30/10 11:44 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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There are no "good points" for baiting.
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#1754733 - 01/30/10 11:48 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Im just wondering if anyone will say anything besides making it easier to kill deer.What else could it be? Easier to kill a deer yes, does and small bucks. Easier to kill a mature buck no, period. I hunt in Kentucky because I grew up in Kentucky and I have used corn piles to inventory my bucks. Last year, I had 16 bucks on my camera using my corn pile after gun season. The reason for the corn was to see what has been pressured. I don't hunt with a gun because it is too easy for me to shoot a buck at 300 hundred yards, which I have done. Anyways, three of those 16 bucks were mature bucks. They came in at night and my camera captured them. I would not have known they were there without the corn. Hunting over corn is my option and I don't use it to kill mature bucks because it doesn't work. They associate the corn with humans and keep their distance until the safety of night. However, by knowing they are there, I learn the direction they come from and there bedding areas, along with their escape routes. Corn does not mean the person has a lack of skill. I have killed several pope and young bucks and none of them have come over corn. Corn is an option. To me, I can kill a mature buck every year with a gun. Had a 140 eight point this year during gun season at 50 yards, but I only use a bow and couldn't get a shot. Corn has not proven successful mature harvests to me, since I have not killed a mature buck in two years and I have corn out. The problem on my property is the lack of cover. I have plenty of food since there is about 200 acres of crops. Most of the mature bucks stay on the adjoining property because of the thick cover and I can only use the rut to get them out early. I did have one mature 10 pt. this year in bow range, but his rack wasn't big enough. Personally, I don't care what TN does about corn, but I hate hearing some guys on here say that mature bucks will be killed all the time. That just doesn't happen. If it is legalized, it is each person's choice and others should not degrade that person's hunting skills. Even the best hunters have bad years and don't kill a buck.
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