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#1755360 - 01/30/10 05:00 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: BSK]
Bertman
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
There are no "good points" for baiting.
That's a matter of opinion and it's yours and I disagree.I should have to choice to choose on private land.
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#1755374 - 01/30/10 05:06 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: Bertman]
Wes Parrish
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 Originally Posted By: Bertman
 Originally Posted By: BSK
There are no "good points" for baiting.
That's a matter of opinion and it's yours and I disagree.I should have to choice to choose on private land.

Bert,

The problem is that the deer do not belong to the property owner, as they are considered "everyone's". That's part of why I'm opposed to feeding, not just baiting during deer season. Feeding is more harmful than beneficial, which is why even feeding is prohibited on public land, and you see signs such as, "Do not feed the bears", "Feeding Wildlife Prohibited", etc.

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#1755586 - 01/30/10 06:44 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: Wes Parrish]
DUCK37101
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If "feeding" was much more harmful then why don't we see more of the "harmful" affects? If there were THAT many harmful ramifications, AND since the deer are really not owned by any single person, then why does the TWRA or another entity disallow feeding practices?
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#1755590 - 01/30/10 06:46 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: dr]
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 Originally Posted By: dr
I don't see much difference between food plots, and baiting. I have plots on my property. They attract deer from surrounding properties, and help hold them on yours. If superior hunting skills, and woodsmanship alone were adequate to take deer consistently, then most of us wouldn't use trail cams, minerals, food plots, or baiting.


I agree...feeding deer=baiting! You can call it whatever you want...QDM, agriculture plots, don't matter it is baiting! The reason people do it is to sttract deer!
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#1755746 - 01/30/10 07:39 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: preachermantom]
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It seems that several say they want baiting because they should have the right to choose. We live in Tennessee which is part of the United States of America. Here you have the right to vote(that is when you get to choose) for the people that either make the laws or puts someone in the position to make them. America has been that way a long time before any of us was born. Like said earlier, deer and all wildlife are not personal property. Where would this right to choose stop? Do we do away with our entire legal system? Should I have the right to drive 150 mph? Which laws do we eliminate so some can have the right to choose what the majority might not want?

Most deer hunters know very little about what is good feed for deer to eat. It is not like feeding cattle. Farmers either buy livestock feed that has a nutritional analysis done or send in samples from what they have grown. Much of the feed is also medicated and have vitamins added. Food plots have far more nutritional value that what will get poured out on the ground.

In my opinion if baiting was legal many will feed in late summer through end of season then stop. The deer would have come somewhat dependent on humans then get cut off at the worse time of year like now.

What someone does on their own private property concerning wildlife could very well affect the wildlife on my property. It would turn into a baiting contest in a very short time.
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#1755761 - 01/30/10 07:51 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: DWM]
DUCK37101
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 Originally Posted By: DWM
It seems that several say they want baiting because they should have the right to choose. We live in Tennessee which is part of the United States of America. Here you have the right to vote(that is when you get to choose) for the people that either make the laws or puts someone in the position to make them. America has been that way a long time before any of us was born. Like said earlier, deer and all wildlife are not personal property. Where would this right to choose stop? Do we do away with our entire legal system? Should I have the right to drive 150 mph? Which laws do we eliminate so some can have the right to choose what the majority might not want?

Most deer hunters know very little about what is good feed for deer to eat. It is not like feeding cattle. Farmers either buy livestock feed that has a nutritional analysis done or send in samples from what they have grown. Much of the feed is also medicated and have vitamins added. Food plots have far more nutritional value that what will get poured out on the ground.

In my opinion if baiting was legal many will feed in late summer through end of season then stop. The deer would have come somewhat dependent on humans then get cut off at the worse time of year like now.

What someone does on their own private property concerning wildlife could very well affect the wildlife on my property. It would turn into a baiting contest in a very short time.





It is already a "contest" of sorts in our area. people put out huge amounts of corn and other baits from mid September through January and then stop.
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#1755859 - 01/30/10 08:49 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: DUCK37101]
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Why do I think baiting in TN should be legal?

1. Main reason being so everyone on this site that has never hunted over bait before, but seems to know everything about it, will actually see that it is not the crapshoot that they think.

For those of you "for": its not as easy as you think, early season does and late season buttonheads will be mainly seen. Occasional "nice" buck during the rut checking for does, but rare. Also, EXTREMELY educated and it turns your deer into nervous wrecks if you over hunt it. Once any amount of hard mast begins to fall or ripen, deer will completely ignore it and its back to relying on your own hunting skills.

2. For those of you against it: thats perfectly fine, and it more than likely not going to change your hunting at all. Have you ever seen some of the thickets and bays in eastern NC? THere is no way you could hunt those areas without bait or hounds(different topic). I've been in a lot of areas in this state from one end to the other, and I'm yet to see places as thick and nasty as down east NC. Just understand that it will not be the decimation of the deer herd that you think!!

I am completely neutral on this, but hope both sides understand my points, I grew up hunting over it and still do in some areas of NC, but it does not reflect my skill level when it comes to deer hunting.
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#1755863 - 01/30/10 08:52 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: BSK]
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Since it is legal somewhere.......i dont have a problem with it anywhere!!!!!!
Why are we discriminated against?
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#1755943 - 01/30/10 09:45 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: Boone 58]
Setterman
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There is no logical reason to allow baiting. I have read all 5 pages and have not seen one, yet....

Please someone tell me why it should be legal? What benefit does it provide to the sport?

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#1755947 - 01/30/10 09:47 PM Re: Why are you for baiting? [Re: Setterman]
BigWes50
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Not for it but what's the difference between mineral sites, food plots and baiting sites?
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