#1754994 - 01/30/10 01:48 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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dr
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Make you a list titled "benefits to deer" with 2 columns on it. One side falls under food plots/agricultural fields and the other under bait piles. See any difference in the two?
Make you another list titled "hunting tips" with the same 2 columns as above. How many items did you list under bait piles?
Point being...it's not hunting. It's shooting. Big difference.
I respect you're opinion, but I beg to differ. It has been my experience that deer sightings, does( mature bucks), and kills, are more numerous in, and around food plots, than near bait sites. I don't believe you're analogy is accurate. Most hunters are not interested in shooting over bait and wouldn't hunt near the bait anyway. Most hunters WILL hunt within sight of a food plot, while another hunter might be setup 300 yards from bait he can't even see. In that case, who really has the advantage? Why is it ok to put out cameras, and minerals to help pattern a specific deer to a certain food plot, or location. Is one hunter more skilled than the other? I don't think so.
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#1755000 - 01/30/10 01:50 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Im with the kids seeing more action!!! I myself would wouldn't mind seeing a lil more.lol...
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#1755007 - 01/30/10 01:52 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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dr
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Because feeding deer is already legal as is food plots and mineral licks, etc...
Yes, but i'm referring to baiting , if it were legal as well.
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#1755143 - 01/30/10 02:44 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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If you had corn out during a GOOD ACORN season they wouldn't hit it like they normally would IMO!
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#1755222 - 01/30/10 03:23 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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If you had corn out during a GOOD ACORN season they wouldn't hit it like they normally would IMO!
Edited by Football Hunter (01/30/10 03:23 PM)
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#1755229 - 01/30/10 03:30 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Mike Belt
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dr....I like cameras. Aside from the fact that first viewing is sort of like a kid at Christmas again I like them simply for the fact that it gives me an idea whether or not there are any "shooters" using the immediate area with any consistancy. I base my pics and the potential for shooting anything I might have on film prior to the rut. My set ups are 99% over scrapes or rublines as opposed to mineral sites. Although mineral sights are great places to set a camera I prefer the scrape setups because they pose a lesser potential hazard for contagious born disease and they usually capture a good percentage of the area's available buck population nearer the time frame I hunt for them. We differ in our opinion from this point on. I don't hunt scrapes per say but rather the general areas I deem as potential travel corridors based on knowledge of deer movement patterns, etc. I've never sat over a baitpile but my guess is most people using them would opt to sit directly over them as opposed to 300 yards away. (Notice I said sit and not hunt.) I don't believe a camera pinpoints a specific kill site as opposed to a bait site. A food plot or ag field may draw deer to a specific area but there's no guarantee they'll enter/exit/feed the same, exact place twice particularly if the field is substancially large. Granted, many hunters may make a kill because the deer were drawn to that general area whether they hunted directly over the field or in the surrounding area. In that respect there may be at least a vague similarity to the same desired effect of hunting over a baitpile. Vague. There's still hunting involved one way and simply sitting the other. Also, going back to any benefits toward the deer herd...name just 1 provided by a bait pile. I can for plots/ag fields and I can keep on even after season closes. How many "baiters" do you think keep at it after season closes for the benefit of the deer?
Edited by Mike Belt (01/30/10 03:32 PM)
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#1755247 - 01/30/10 03:46 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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paradis1142
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Im not pro bait or anti bait, it really doesnt matter to me. If you plant something or alter your place to attract deer then you are baiting(which is nothing more than trying to attract and hold deer)and there is nothing wrong with that. I bet it wouldnt take long at all for the deer to wise up to whats going on at the corn pile and avoid it during daylight.
I put corn out for cameras sometimes to test new spots and if the deer are there they eat it. If they arent there they dont travel very far to go eat it. I put out 100 ounds in front of a camera this summer and it sat and rotted, a quarter of a mile away they would eat 200 pounds a week easy if I would keep it there for them.
Either way who cares there is no sense in arguing about it
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#1755252 - 01/30/10 03:48 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Sitting on a food plot is just that. Same as a white oak flat or a scrape.
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#1755313 - 01/30/10 04:33 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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DUCK37101
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Because feeding deer is already legal as is food plots and mineral licks, etc... Yes, but i'm referring to baiting , if it were legal as well.
The only difference is being able to "hunt" over the same source of feed. I can bring a camera to a site where I have a feeder on my property through the whole year. It only becomes baiting when I have a weapon and season is going on.
That's my point. How far away does that same feeder have to be if season is going on and I'm hunting that same tract of land? 100 ft, 500ft, 1 mile? too much gray in the situation IMO.
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#1755339 - 01/30/10 04:51 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Wes Parrish
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Just wondering.Why do you want baiting legalized,if you do?
I don't.
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