#1762063 - 02/02/10 04:34 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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buckmaster 320
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Registered: 01/21/03
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Loc: cookeville,tn
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The polls are only going to contain data that fit the agenda of the TWRA. That's a fact. If the polls produce data that may go against the "belief" of the TWRA we will never see unless the numbers are "moved around" to fit the agenda. Now that my friend is "science". Just what is the agenda and beliefs of TWRA?....  $$
Yodel Dog got that right
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#1762075 - 02/02/10 04:37 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
[Re: Yodel Dog]
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ChippewaPartners
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Registered: 08/25/01
Posts: 2909
Loc: Pamelot, my farm near Catoosa
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The baiting issue in TN is interesting. Around the Crossville area where I am familiar baiting is rampant. Guys say they put out the corn to bring the deer into their camera's view....and then have a shooting house on the food plot close by. Guys put out corn everywhere in Cumberland County according to the two feed store workers I talk to. Most think that unless they have some attractant like corn on their slice of heaven (hunting property) to attract (and wishfully thinking) and RETAIN those deer they won't get one. Many of those same "hunters" don't have the general woodsmanship skills or knowledge of the keen sensory acumen that whitetail deer possess and I won't even bring up the difference of bucks at 3.5 years of age and their behaviour differentials. I have never hunted a planted food plot in my life and don't even own a trail camera yet (but intend to buy several this summer and am open for suggestions) but I did hunt over an alfalfa field one night in Montana sitting on a hay stack (saw some dinks, nothing big) and hunt on tree lines that adjoin picked peanut fields and cotton fields in south Georgia. Come to think of it I have never killed a big buck out of stand overlooking any kind of field but have taken some from the ground on the perimeters. I missed a great whitetail once in MN with a bow in a picked bean field but that is the extent of it. Maybe the corn lovers who haven't scored their desired "big buck" might rethink their own hunting strategy and attempt another strategy and/or put more work into it. It can't hurt and they don't have much to lose.
It might even make them better hunters.
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#1763055 - 02/02/10 09:58 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Setterman
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Registered: 12/31/09
Posts: 1783
Loc: Knoxville, TN
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Hate to rupture your bubble, but it was far from a one man show, and over 3,000 deer aged; 4,000 license holders surveyed; 7,000+ trail cam pics from 5 different tracts of land private and public, comprised enough data to form a very educated picture of this states deer herd (Region IV) and the views of the hunters here and how they feel.
So, you have compiled data from Knoxville? Trail cam pics from 5 tracts of land? Wow you are an expert. I'm no where near as imrpressed with your "data collection" now. That would be interesting data to look at. You're probably one of those "yankees" that have to come to middle Tn to even see a deer. Well I got my data from someone very high up at Farm Bureau!  7,000 trail cam pics in Knoxville is impressive though. Must of all been of the same deer. Was "she" eating from your corn pile?
You are quite the knowledgeable chap.
Yankee...last I checked Miss was about as southern as it gets.
And sorry to rain on you again, not a single shred of property was studied in Knox Cty. Campbell, Jefferson, Hawkins, Greene, and Union were the counties where the properties were loacted. Each chosen for a specific reason. Campbell because it was on public land and mountainous, high hunting pressure. Jefferson river valley farm country with heavy hunting pressure. Hawkins foothills with medium hunting pressure. Greene low hunting pressure and ridge/valley terrain. Union transition area b/w mountainous and valley with medium to heavy hunting pressure.
30 trail cameras were used over an 8 mnth time period with the intent to properly survey each designated section of land. I would say 90% of the deer which used each property were photographed at some point or another.
Others that helped spent 40 days at various check stations around each of the 5 sample counties, the most heavily used, and aged around 3,000 bucks during their time.
You seem to be throwing s*** at the wall and hoping something sticks, all that you are accomplishing is getting your hands dirty. My education is in this stuff, and I also have a side job managing properties in Miss and AL for TDM/QDM enthusiasts on those properties.
Please, elaborate for us all, your vast knowledge of this states deer herd, and how you came to those conclusions. AS of now the only thing you are proving is your level of ignorance, and your ability to act like an infant.
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#1763073 - 02/02/10 10:07 PM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
[Re: dr]
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Registered: 10/22/07
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Loc: Wilson Co/Perry Co
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I think Yodel dog and Aussie Sniper have either taken over the dead spirit of Captain Hook,or are completley insane.
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#1763354 - 02/03/10 06:57 AM
Re: Why are you for baiting?
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Bottom Hunter
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Registered: 12/29/06
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Loc: Hatchie Bottoms
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What the he11 is the matter with you people? Cabin fever already?  Seems like there have been a lot of threads about baiting the last few weeks. Baiting is not a cure all for hunting. It has its problems like most things in life.
don't you know that if you pour out corn and hang a deer stand over it, then you will be in the B&C books by sundown....
haha
BH
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