#1745880 - 01/25/10 07:37 PM
Re: BGG & BSK, QDMA question
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BSK is exactly right...
It didn't come down from the MDWFP, it came about from the general public. The majority of the general public down here wanted the entire yearling buck population protected. The AR's are designed and vary by geographical unit to accomplish that.
It will be an interesting experiment statewide...
It has already been proven on many of the deer camps enrolled in DMAP, as well as a multitude of WMA's statewide over the past several years. I'm just not too sure Bubba on his 40 acres is going to adhere to the AR's- especially without a tagging system. Whats gonna be interesting is how they present the data on how it did or did not work on a statewide level in few years!! As you said,.. without some sort of tag system in place,.. they have no way of data colecting from across the state. I would assume they will continue to use the data that is avalaible, (WMA's and DMAP), and that this would represent a sampling that would be accurate to apply to the entire state. BSK could probably answer this one better though.
Upward (good) trends in the DMAP data would suggest upward trends in the "open" harvest as well, although the exact percentages between the two wouldn't be the same.
Because they really put some good research into ther new antler restrictions, I suspect they will see significant improvements in reduced yearling buck harvests for those areas that needed it, and hopefully a reduction in the older buck high-grading that had been occurring.
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#1745905 - 01/25/10 07:43 PM
Re: BGG & BSK, QDMA question
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westtntoms
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Can you talk more about the research they did? I just assumed they used data from wma's & dmap.
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#1746452 - 01/26/10 06:59 AM
Re: BGG & BSK, QDMA question
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westtntoms,
What they were looking at was the percent of the yearling age-class would be protected using various antler restrictions. The simply four-total-points rule worked fine in the poorest soil/habitat areas because most yearling in these areas didn't produce antlers better than spikes hence were protected. However, in the best soil/habitat areas (Delta Region) many yearling bucks produced antlers large enough to qualify for harvest. This was producing high-grading of the older age-classes of bucks (the "best" yearlings removed and the "worst" yearlings protected leading to smaller antlers on bucks once they reached the older age-classes).
These new ARs are intended to better protect the top-end yearling bucks in the best habitat areas, where yearling bucks can easily grow four-total-point antlers.
If you look, I bet the MS wildlife agency's website or MSU website will have detailed information on the actual research and findings. I've seen it in print form before.
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#1748989 - 01/27/10 03:34 PM
Re: BGG & BSK, QDMA question
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westtntoms
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MS has a summary report on their website. I've read that, it just summarizes why they made the changes. They also have a deer program report, which contains the data they used. I'm not able to open the report, they are mailing me a hard copy.
The bioligist told me they used data from their DMAP program, (which is included in this report)in setting the new regs.
I look forward to reading it.
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