#1742055 - 01/23/10 11:28 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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#1742061 - 01/23/10 11:33 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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It makes you wonder what drove the state of MS to change their regs. Not that I don't agree with protecting yearling bucks, but was it necessary to enforce statewide? I don't believe they have solid data to support the decision, unless I'm missing something.
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#1742063 - 01/23/10 11:33 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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By all means join them. They have a lot of good things to offer the private deer manager.
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#1742067 - 01/23/10 11:37 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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It makes you wonder what drove the state of MS to change their regs. Not that I don't agree with protecting yearling bucks, but was it necessary to enforce statewide? I don't believe they have solid data to support the decision, unless I'm missing something.
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Missippii has been protecting their yearlings with an antler restriction for a long time (maybe a decade or so). They used to do it with a statewide 4-point minimum rule. But that rule was ineffective in most areas. It was either too strict or not strict enough to protect the yearlings. Just this past year they decided to be more specific with their antler restriction such as the antler beam length and the different deer units.
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#1742072 - 01/23/10 11:45 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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BGG,
Yeah, I know I was raised in MS and still hunt there, matter of fact i'm up a tree right now! I never thought the 4pt rule ever did protect the yearlings very well. My question would be how do they really know they needed to get more strict?
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#1742073 - 01/23/10 11:47 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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That why they put these beside the data:
* data not available
** data from antler-point-restriction counties (non-antler-point- restriction counties)
*** data from check stations and DMAP
How in the world do you lump these two data sources together?
Like I said in a previous post, if I only submitted our DMAP data, Tennessee would have a 12% yearling harvest. The data source paints a completely different picture.
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#1742075 - 01/23/10 11:49 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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BGG,
Yeah, I know I was raised in MS and still hunt there, matter of fact i'm up a tree right now! I never thought the 4pt rule ever did protect the yearlings very well. My question would be how do they really know they needed to get more strict?
They use antler data from different parts of the state to make their restrictions more regionally specific. The data they use comes from WMAs and DMAP clubs.
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#1742077 - 01/23/10 11:50 AM
Re: 2010 QDMA Whitetail Report
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That why they put these beside the data:
* data not available
** data from antler-point-restriction counties (non-antler-point- restriction counties)
*** data from check stations and DMAP
How in the world do you lump these two data sources together?
ha, basically the same thing I said!
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