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#1738495 - 01/21/10 12:47 PM CWD in Virginia
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For Immediate Release
January 20, 2010

Chronic Wasting Disease Found in White-tailed Deer in Virginia

The Virginia Department of Game and Inland Fisheries (VDGIF) received laboratory confirmation on January 19, 2010, that a white-tailed deer tested positive for chronic wasting disease (CWD). This is the first confirmed case of CWD in Virginia. The deer was killed by a hunter in Frederick County less than one mile from the West Virginia line. With this case, Virginia now joins 17 other states and Canadian provinces with CWD, five of which are east of the Mississippi River.

“This was not unexpected,” stated VDGIF Executive Director Bob Duncan. “Our wildlife professionals have been preparing for this for some time. The surveillance efforts have been critical and we appreciate the hunters, check station operators, and other cooperators who have supported our efforts.”

CWD is a disease of deer and has not been found to be transmitted to humans or other animals. To learn more about CWD in Virginia and about the agency’s CWD Response Plan visit http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/cwd.

This is the first positive test sample out of nearly 5,000 deer tested in the Commonwealth since 2001. VDGIF has been sampling hunter-killed and road-killed deer from the Active Surveillance Area in western Frederick and Shenandoah counties since 2005, when CWD was first detected near Slanesville, West Virginia, within ten miles of the state line. Between 2005 and 2009, CWD has been detected in 62 deer in Hampshire County, West Virginia, out of nearly 10,000 total deer sampled during that time. Several have been found within five miles of the Virginia line.

Agency officials from West Virginia Division of Natural Resources (WVDNR) and VDGIF continue to share information and coordinate their responses. For more information on CWD in West Virginia please see the WVDNR website at http://www.wvdnr.org/. VDGIF is also working in consultation with the U.S. Department of Agriculture and the Virginia Department of Agriculture and Consumer Services.

How did VDGIF detect CWD in Virginia?
Since 2002, when CWD was first detected east of the Mississippi River (in Wisconsin), the Department developed a CWD Response Plan. Parts of the plan have been activated since 2005, after West Virginia discovered CWD. The Response Plan has been updated and revised several times, as recently as December 2009, as new information becomes available. The VDGIF CWD Response Plan is designed to define the magnitude and geographic extent of a CWD outbreak and control the transmission of the disease.

The 2-year-old female deer that tested positive was killed by a hunter on November 14, 2009, on private land west of Gore, Virginia, in Frederick County less than one mile from the West Virginia line. As part of VDGIF’s CWD surveillance program, the hunter submitted the harvested deer for tissue sampling by VDGIF staff working at a local check station. VDGIF submitted samples to two different laboratories, first for initial testing, and then for independent confirmation. Testing generally takes 6-8 weeks
VDGIF obtained 206 samples from hunter-killed and road-killed deer in the Active Surveillance Area near West Virginia during the 2009-10 hunting season. The agency is awaiting initial laboratory results for 37 of these samples taken at the end of the season. Hunters who submitted deer heads for tissue samples to test for CWD can check on results by visiting the Department’s website at http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/cwdresults. VDGIF cannot guarantee that all hunter-submitted animals were tested.

What is CWD? Are people at risk?
CWD is a slow, progressive neurological (brain and nervous system) disease found in deer, elk, and moose in North America. The disease ultimately results in death. Species known to be susceptible include elk, red deer, moose, mule deer, white-tailed deer, and black-tailed deer. CWD belongs to a family of diseases known as transmissible spongiform encephalopathies. There is no evidence that CWD can be naturally transmitted to livestock or other (non deer) animals.

There is no current scientific evidence that CWD has ever infected humans. However, it is recommended that human exposure to the CWD agent be avoided, and the Department recommends that hunters take simple precautions such as not consuming any deer that appear abnormal or sick, and wearing gloves when field dressing and boning out the meat. In addition, it is recommended that hunters avoid consuming meat and tissues from known CWD-infected animals.

It must be remembered that the CWD test is designed for surveillance purposes and is not a food safety test. The CWD tests will detect the causative agent at a certain level in the tissue, and a result of "not detected" does not guarantee that the agent is not present at low levels.

How is VDGIF addressing CWD detection in Virginia?
The new detection in Frederick County, Virginia, will further activate the VDGIF CWD Response Plan which enhances surveillance and disease control measures. The CWD Response Plan is available on the Department website at http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/cwd.
VDGIF Executive Director Bob Duncan noted, “For many years, Department staff and our Board of Game and Inland Fisheries have been proactive in working to reduce Virginia’s CWD risk.”

Prevention and early detection remain important components of Virginia’s CWD program. Given that CWD is likely transmitted deer-to-deer or through environmental contamination by infected deer, activities that unnaturally concentrate deer or move deer or deer carcasses likely increase the risk of spreading CWD. Therefore, since 2002, VDGIF has:
1. Actively conducted CWD surveillance activities throughout Virginia , and targeted surveillance of suspected risk factors;
2. Changed regulations and permit conditions to ban the importation of live deer and elk into and within Virginia;
3. Strengthened captive deer requirements related to animal marking, record keeping, facility inspections, and mortality reporting;
4. Prohibited the importation of whole deer carcasses and selected parts into Virginia from states known to have CWD;
5. Prohibited the feeding of deer in Virginia from September 1 through the first weekend in January each year;
6. Prohibited the relocation of rehabilitated deer out of Frederick or Shenandoah counties;
7. Provided accurate and timely information about CWD to deer hunters and the general public through news releases, pamphlets, magazine articles and other media outlets.

Persons who have questions or need additional information about CWD should visit the Department's Web site at http://www.dgif.virginia.gov/cwd.
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#1738521 - 01/21/10 01:12 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: TLRanger]
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Wow! I didn't know west virgina was CWD positive...
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#1738546 - 01/21/10 01:38 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: cecil30-30]
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Its getting scary close, im sure TWRA is monitoring the situation closely. Not much that can be done however, Mother Nature will have her way.
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#1738831 - 01/21/10 04:42 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Winchester]
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#1738854 - 01/21/10 04:52 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Buck Nekkid]
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I think it's highly unlikely that we don't already have CWD in Tennessee. Probably been here for many years, just at a low level of incidence, and we haven't "discovered" it yet.
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#1738873 - 01/21/10 05:08 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: cecil30-30]
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Wow! I didn't know west virgina was CWD positive...




 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Its getting scary close, im sure TWRA is monitoring the situation closely. Not much that can be done however, Mother Nature will have her way.



I posted that west Virginia had it over two years ago. Take me off your ignore list . LOL
Lets hope the mountains will keep this away from us for a long while.
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#1739053 - 01/21/10 06:29 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Locksley]
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I don't even know how to work that ignore list stuff!! LOL As of right now,noone is on my ignore list..LOL
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#1739503 - 01/21/10 09:11 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: cecil30-30]
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shoot,doesnt sound good
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#1739779 - 01/22/10 01:27 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Football Hunter]
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This is not new. And I am also sure we have it here and have had for many years. WV reported it over two years ago. That must be just an update.
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#1740080 - 01/22/10 08:14 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: bowriter]
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Not good news at all.
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#1740081 - 01/22/10 08:15 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Winchester]
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Its getting scary close, im sure TWRA is monitoring the situation closely. Not much that can be done however, Mother Nature will have her way.


Absolutely.

Some were holding out hope that because CWD had not been found in the Southeast that potentially the Southeastern sub-species of whitetail had some natural immunity to it. But that hope is fading fast.
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#1740165 - 01/22/10 08:56 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: TLRanger]
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 Originally Posted By: TLRanger

There is no current scientific evidence that CWD has ever infected humans.


That is the scariest statement in this thread...

Don't get me wrong... hunters shouldn't panic about CWD, but to assume it isn't transmissible to humans is like the ostrich sticking his head in the sand.

All the prions are remarkably similar... and we KNOW of 2 in humans (Jacob-Crutzfield and BSE (mad-cow)); additionally, there were 3 hunters with Jacob-Crutzfield up north than potentially contracted it from deer. Tracking this disease in humans is a bugger, though... since most won't show any symptoms for 10-20 years AFTER contracting the disease!

What should hunters do then?

I usually am very liberal about the amount of meat I'm willing to sacrifice off the carcass. For example, if my bullet or fragments contact the spine, I'll leave an additional 3-4" of backstraps for the coyotes. On high shoulder shots, I'll leave both alone if I know the bullet hit the lower cervical spine or upper thoracic spine. The only time my knife will touch the spinal tissues is when I'm removing the head, and that's AFTER I've pulled all the meat off the carcass. And after that, the knife is sterilized in bleach (which is probably effective).

I feed my kids venison without reservation, but again, I'm careful with my processing.

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#1740172 - 01/22/10 09:01 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac

What should hunters do then?

I usually am very liberal about the amount of meat I'm willing to sacrifice off the carcass. For example, if my bullet or fragments contact the spine, I'll leave an additional 3-4" of backstraps for the coyotes. On high shoulder shots, I'll leave both alone if I know the bullet hit the lower cervical spine or upper thoracic spine. The only time my knife will touch the spinal tissues is when I'm removing the head, and that's AFTER I've pulled all the meat off the carcass. And after that, the knife is sterilized in bleach (which is probably effective).

I feed my kids venison without reservation, but again, I'm careful with my processing.



...good advice imo......

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#1740281 - 01/22/10 09:52 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: TLRanger

There is no current scientific evidence that CWD has ever infected humans.


That is the scariest statement in this thread...

Don't get me wrong... hunters shouldn't panic about CWD, but to assume it isn't transmissible to humans is like the ostrich sticking his head in the sand.

All the prions are remarkably similar... and we KNOW of 2 in humans (Jacob-Crutzfield and BSE (mad-cow)); additionally, there were 3 hunters with Jacob-Crutzfield up north than potentially contracted it from deer. Tracking this disease in humans is a bugger, though... since most won't show any symptoms for 10-20 years AFTER contracting the disease!

What should hunters do then?

I usually am very liberal about the amount of meat I'm willing to sacrifice off the carcass. For example, if my bullet or fragments contact the spine, I'll leave an additional 3-4" of backstraps for the coyotes. On high shoulder shots, I'll leave both alone if I know the bullet hit the lower cervical spine or upper thoracic spine. The only time my knife will touch the spinal tissues is when I'm removing the head, and that's AFTER I've pulled all the meat off the carcass. And after that, the knife is sterilized in bleach (which is probably effective).

I feed my kids venison without reservation, but again, I'm careful with my processing.



However that statement is true. There is no evidence it can jump a species barrier. It is not like mad cow or CJ in that aspect as far as we know today. That, however is not to say, at some point, it won't.

Now there are some of us who believe this disease has been in cervids everywhere for decades, maybe even centuries. I am among that group. I have no doubt we have had it TN for many years.

But here, as it is many areas, an animal dies and within days it is consumed. So unless it is a penned animal, we never know it. I personally, watched with my own eyes as a sick animal in apenned herd was burned. I do not know what it died of. They symptoms could have been anything. But that animal was never examinded. And no, I will not say where it was or who owned it.

But I was a student the University of WY when Elizabeth discovered it. It was, at that time, in her opinion, no big deal and had probably been in the elk in the wild all along. Her feeling, back then was that it was present in all cervids. That is now appearing to be true.

This I know for a fact. The panic is far worse than the disease.

Now I would not eat any animimal that obviously diseased. But be know today, a cervid may have CWD for at least five years before it shows any manifestation. So in my opinion, we probably have all eaten deer with CWD.

Think about it. How long have we even been testing for it? Now think about the sample size. How in he11 would we know if we have it.

I'm not an icthyologist, can't even spell it. But there is a disease in trout called wirling disease. Been around as long as there have been trout. Look it up. Dr. E felt it was a similar disease to CWD. Could it be related prion borne diseases are in all animals? We know monkeys have it.

Just something to think about.
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#1740392 - 01/22/10 10:58 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: TLRanger

There is no current scientific evidence that CWD has ever infected humans.


That is the scariest statement in this thread...

Don't get me wrong... hunters shouldn't panic about CWD, but to assume it isn't transmissible to humans is like the ostrich sticking his head in the sand.

All the prions are remarkably similar... and we KNOW of 2 in humans (Jacob-Crutzfield and BSE (mad-cow)); additionally, there were 3 hunters with Jacob-Crutzfield up north than potentially contracted it from deer. Tracking this disease in humans is a bugger, though...


Actually, tracking it in humans wouldn't be bugger if it had ever occurred. The prions between the different species variations are not all that similar. In fact, Crutzfeld-Jacob's Disease (CJD) is not a contagious form of the disease (unless you're a canible). It is a naturally occurring genetic mutation that strikes only 1 in 1 million people. The form of CJD that is contracted by eating cattle infected with Mad Cow Disease (MCD) is called CJDv, with the small "v" standing for "variant." It can easily be identified geneticaly because the prion comes from the cattle form of the disease and is different than the naturally occurring form. The hunters in WI that have CJD have the naturally occurring form. The U.S. population is around 300 million and that about how many known cases of naturally occurring CJD there are--around 300.

And even when you consider the contagious form of Mad Cow Disease, tens of millions of people in Europe ate infected beef yet only around 215 people caught the disease. It is not highly contagious at all. The chances of contracting CJDv from eating infected beef is astronomically low.
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#1740687 - 01/22/10 02:35 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: BSK]
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Great info....Good comments from all....thanks...
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#1740696 - 01/22/10 02:40 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: Double-D-Team]
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That is some good info
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#1740745 - 01/22/10 03:14 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: vabuckbuster]
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bowriter or BSK,

would you knowingly eat a CWD infected deer? \:\)

Again, I don't think there is need for panic, but realistically we don't know enough about the prion and how transmissable/ infective it is.

It is therefore prudent to use 'universal precautions' when handling cervids, especially neural tissues.

oh, and bowriter, I know a little about whirling disease... I wonder if it could be part of the problem with the wintering bald eagles contracting a prion disease in Arkansas... they are dropping like flies there.

Any way you look at it, it's a sucky way to go... they all turn your brain into swiss cheese.

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#1740784 - 01/22/10 03:31 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
bowriter or BSK,

would you knowingly eat a CWD infected deer? \:\)


Nope. But again, I wouldn't be too concerned about getting CWD from eating a deer. VERY few people ever got Mad Cow Disease from eating diseased meat and tens of millions of people ate contaminated meat.
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#1742185 - 01/23/10 02:41 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: BSK]
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No I would not. But I bet I have and didn't know it. I would not eat any deer I knew was diseased no matter what the disease. But I would probably shoot it. And have.

I would guess that any poster on this site who has killed and eaten several deer has eaten diseased meat. Keep in mind, we are not just talking about deer. Include rabbits and squirrels etc.
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#1742339 - 01/23/10 04:53 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: bowriter]
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I'd rather not think about it...

I like my venison RARE.

Elk RARE

Ducks RARE

Doves medium-rare

Rabbits medium

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#1743188 - 01/24/10 09:21 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: megalomaniac]
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I eat a lot of venison, but considering the number of internal parasites deer carry, there's not a chance I'm eating it rare! \:\)
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#1743841 - 01/24/10 03:39 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: BSK]
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Man---it has to be medium rare. Dom't burn deer meat, just get some cardboard. He11, you have twice the parasites as a deer.
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#1743906 - 01/24/10 05:00 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
He11, you have twice the parasites as a deer.


Not heartworm or liver flukes!
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#1744076 - 01/24/10 06:10 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: BSK]
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You sure?
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#1744201 - 01/24/10 07:15 PM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: bowriter]
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You sure?


Oh yeah!

...wait, I feel something crawling in my chest...

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#1744670 - 01/25/10 03:23 AM Re: CWD in Virginia [Re: BSK]
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