#1738996 - 01/21/10 06:07 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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Buckhunter72
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I got drawn for it my first year. It happened to be the one of the first couple of years of the hunt. Saw more big bucks and big buck sign than I had ever seen. When we pulled in, the guy in the check in house told us to enjoy it, it would be a long time before we got to come back. I didn't understand what he was talking about, until I seen the quality of deer running around. Once the word got out, there is no telling how many years may go by. I have put in for it ever since, and I always cry when I get notification in the mail, that I didn't get drawn again.
Thing is, I never seen one buck that was nine or better, but of the 20 different bucks I did see, there were some Monster 8's.
Maybe one day, I will get to go back. I have almost given up.
But to answer your question, A VERY, VERY, VERY, LONG TIME.
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#1739050 - 01/21/10 06:26 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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LIL JOKER
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u guys talking aboiut pi will make somebody mad .lol
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#1739134 - 01/21/10 07:18 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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bsl
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I know there a monster deer there but I can't see waiting 10 years to get drawn for the hunt.
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#1739614 - 01/21/10 09:44 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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tndrbstr
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Im with Wes on the point of managing a few other WMA's for Trophy hunting, which is what is going on at PI. I know this isnt what everybody wants and I undertstand that, but taking say 5 more small WMA's across the state, and making them true Trophy areas would take a lot of the pressure off PI, and make a lot more hunters happy with an increased chance in getting to hunt an area where all yearlings and most 2 1/2's are off limits.
Well I am not with you or Wes on this idea.  I don't want to see any more public land going to trophy regs. I say if you want to take pressure of of PI then increase the hunting opportunitys there. Open it up with state wide season... 
Your right about one thing, Restricting anymore public land ain't for everybody. And just why do you think that is?...Lets just severly limit access to five or more wma's, public land, from across the state. Now why would anybody have a reason to object to that?  I think things might look a little differant for someone settin on a several hundred acre private farm, or two or three,...and not think alot about closing or restricting other hunters opportunitys on public land , hunters that may not have any other options to hunt. Oh I can definatly see your point of veiw I just don't agree with it.... course I can only speak for myself, but your dang right, it ain't for me!...
And again, what makes the PI WMA have such a high success ratio on the actual harvest of 3 1/2-yr-old and older bucks is....
lack of hunting,
lack of hunting?, ...sorry but that just ain't in my game plan friend. I already have plenty of that ...
But do something like that on a single WMA the size of Catoosa, and something akin to the PI experience, with the stroke of pen, would be provided to about 10 times more TN hunters.
Don't take this the wrong way but its kind of scary that so many of my opportunitys can be taken away so easily with the stroke of the pen .... and for what? To put even more addition pressure on the public land that would still available the rest of the hunters? Many or most that don't have access to private land or leases?...No thanks...
I agree completely, lets take say ORWMA and close it to hunting for just 2 seasons. Now on the 3'rd season we will have just one 3 day hunt, and no scouting day either. When the hunters hit the woods they will be carrying guns and bows according to which area you draw. I can guarantee there would be quite a few super bucks killed, probably more % wise than there are at PI because it would not be Archery only.
You are kidding right?... I guess we can all come to your place and hunt till they decide to reopen them? 
OR has taken antler restrictions off now because population goals were not being reached... There are other prioritys in managing TNs deer herd than trying to furnish every hunter in TN with a 140 inch 3.5 years old buck on public land...
If somebody wants to wait 8 or 10 years to get drawn at PI let em have at it.... Thats there choice. My choice is not to....
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#1739622 - 01/21/10 09:47 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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BigAl
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I think the fact that PI is an Island and is farmed helps also. Its not a true island, but since its bordered by the river and downtown, its practically an Island. The Island also has a police patrol, which helps control the poaching. I'm sure a little still goes on, but not much.
Put that situation in a rural area and the road hunters would have a field day.
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#1740230 - 01/22/10 09:30 AM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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nthawoods
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Took six years for me to get drawn. So please get tired, discouraged, mad, forgetful, sad, distracted...whatever it takes. The hunt is NOT worth it. Go elsewhere. Please!!!
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#1740437 - 01/22/10 11:32 AM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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plinker22
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Some of my best hunts have been on the TN WMA's, and I have never been to PI.
Instead of applying for PI every year and getting rejected, I enjoy applying and getting DRAWN for 2 hunts every other year. At least that is my average right now.
One day, I might change my mind and start my long wait for PI, but for now, I appreciate all the WMA's that I get my chance on... every other year!
Edited by plinker22 (01/22/10 11:33 AM)
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#1740446 - 01/22/10 11:39 AM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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BigWes50
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Some of my best hunts have been on the TN WMA's, and I have never been to PI.
Instead of applying for PI every year and getting rejected, I enjoy applying and getting DRAWN for 2 hunts every other year. At least that is my average right now.
One day, I might change my mind and start my long wait for PI, but for now, I appreciate all the WMA's that I get my chance on... every other year!
I completely understand and that's what I've done for alot of years. But the wmas I"ve been to on managed hunts were no different than going to some random WMA or public land that's open with the statewide season. I want a true MANAGED HUNT! Not a draw hunt! Heck there are 100s of WMAs across the state, taking 4 or 5 of those and doing what PI is doing shouldn't hurt to much?
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#1740483 - 01/22/10 12:03 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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Wes Parrish
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. . . . . . . I don't want to see any more public land going to trophy regs. Your right about one thing, Restricting anymore public land ain't for everybody. Don't take this the wrong way but its kind of scary that so many of my opportunitys can be taken away so easily with the stroke of the pen .... If somebody wants to wait 8 or 10 years to get drawn at PI let em have at it.... Thats there choice. My choice is not to....
Tndrbstr, likewise, I do see you your perspective, and totally believe that most of the public land should be "managed" for the hunting experiences that most of Tennessee hunters are wanting most.
But we are talking about public land, something that belongs to all of us, and all of us are not wanting the same hunting experience.
Currently, the acreage of President's Island accounts for maybe 1% of the TWRA-managed public lands?
There's certainly a lot more than 1% of Tennessee's hunters begging for a hunting experience geared more towards a QUALITY hunting experience rather than just the QUANTITY of days we can deer hunt annually. This is evidenced by the over a thousand TN hunters who are forfeiting all their quota hunt permits ongoing just for the opportunity to hunt President's Island a single weekend ONE TIME during the next 10 to 15 years.
My thought was simply that if a large percentage of Tennessee's hunters are preferring a better quality hunt over just another hunt, in all fairness, why not have a little more of our public lands offering this opportunity?
By the way, I am not a fan of the "trophy" regs on President's Island --- I think those antler restrictions suck. (By no means would I want the PI regs "rubber stamped" onto another WMA.) What I am a fan of is having some WMA's that simply just offer either-sex hunting (without antler restrictions), but with enough less hunting, that the deer herd is managed more as nature intended ---- with a good representation of 4 1/2 and older bucks that are actually moving around during daytime hours so we can see and harvest more of them while hunting. Not for everybody, maybe not for you, but there's a growing number who prefer quality over quantity.
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#1740508 - 01/22/10 12:27 PM
Re: Presidents Island, how long?
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muddyboots
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Cant wait til i can go back.
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