#1736395 - 01/20/10 11:15 AM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Winchester, if you eliminate the word cull, you and I are in total agreement. Cull means inferior. A mature buck with small antlers is only inferior for one trait. There is no way of knowing if he passes that trait on in a wild situation. One of the best race horse studs in the quarter horse world never won a race. He was called Three Bars. I was fortunate enough to own two of his sons. I also owned a Depth Charge colt that couldn't run fast enough to scatter his own shite. But Depth Charge was a whirlwind.
tnbustr-I believe I answered your question in a PM.
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#1736451 - 01/20/10 11:46 AM
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tnbustr-I believe I answered your question in a PM. I didn't get one, but ghosthunter was the one askin the question. I just thought it was kind of interesting... 
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#1736475 - 01/20/10 12:03 PM
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BW, like I said, the mature buck with small antlers is a cull "in my eyes" I didnt say he was a cull biologically, just to me. As we talked about before, its all about the antlers, and a fully mature buck with small antlers will not be welcomed anywhere, like the same buck with a 160 inch rack would be.
We were asked the definition of a 'cull buck' and that is mine, mature buck with a small rack! I am one that does not think any buck should be 'culled' before he is mature, as many bucks that are behind early on will eventually grow out of it and make something decent.
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#1736508 - 01/20/10 12:19 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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I'm with you Winchester. I also think that culling inferior mature buck's, on managed property big enough to keep them there, is attempting to control genetics. In all probability a mature buck with inferior rack will pass those genetics on. It is all about the antlers though. Even QDM is. Nobody in there right mind would go to all that trouble and expense to "grow" big does or 5 1/2 year old 4 points.
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#1736515 - 01/20/10 12:21 PM
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...its all about the antlers, and a fully mature buck with small antlers will not be welcomed anywhere...
I'll take him in my local herd. Not necessarily for harvest, but just to influence the herd and other buck behavior. Now if I have my choice, I want mature bucks with big antlers, but if it comes down to mature bucks with small antlers or no mature bucks at all, I'll take mature bucks with small antlers.
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#1736529 - 01/20/10 12:28 PM
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a fully mature buck with small antlers will not be welcomed anywhere, like the same buck with a 160 inch rack would be.
Heres my full statement, and I couldnt agree more with you BSK, I too will take what I can get, but as I stated above, he is not nearly as welcome as the same age buck with a 160 inch rack, but he is definitely welcome :)!
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#1736542 - 01/20/10 12:34 PM
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On that we DEFINITELY agree Winchester!
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#1736731 - 01/20/10 02:28 PM
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I answered somebody with a PM. If you still have it, post it so I don't have to write it again.
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#1736883 - 01/20/10 03:44 PM
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Bowriter,
Would you please answer my questions on page 6, I did yours...
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