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#1729969 - 01/17/10 08:32 AM Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
ghosthunter
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Is a main frame 8pt always a main frame 8pt or can they turn into a main frame 10pt with age?
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#1729991 - 01/17/10 08:52 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: ghosthunter]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
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They can go up and down.
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#1729995 - 01/17/10 08:57 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
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yep,up or down
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#1730010 - 01/17/10 09:04 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: Football Hunter]
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A mainframe 8 once it reaches maturity (4.5) will likely stay a mainframe 8 until it starts to decline. Now we're talking 'mainframe'... they will often add kickers, stickers, droptines, etc the older they get.

A young mainframe 8 (1.5 or 2.5 yrs old, but esp 1.5) has the potential to become a mainframe 10 with a little more age.

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#1730038 - 01/17/10 09:30 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: megalomaniac]
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
A mainframe 8 once it reaches maturity (4.5) will likely stay a mainframe 8 until it starts to decline. Now we're talking 'mainframe'... they will often add kickers, stickers, droptines, etc the older they get.

A young mainframe 8 (1.5 or 2.5 yrs old, but esp 1.5) has the potential to become a mainframe 10 with a little more age.


Right on the money......could not have said it better....
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#1730196 - 01/17/10 11:39 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: Double-D-Team]
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An 8-pt is a typical whitetail deer. But they can become non-typical at anytime. They can be 10 or 12 or even 14 point. But once they pass 8-pt, regardless of antler configuration, they are biologically non typical.

But that has nothing do with scoring. For "scoring" purposes, typical and non-typical are simply antler configurations. One side matching the other. Ma Nature did not have a record book.
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#1730469 - 01/17/10 02:43 PM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: Double-D-Team]
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 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
A mainframe 8 once it reaches maturity (4.5) will likely stay a mainframe 8 until it starts to decline. Now we're talking 'mainframe'... they will often add kickers, stickers, droptines, etc the older they get.

A young mainframe 8 (1.5 or 2.5 yrs old, but esp 1.5) has the potential to become a mainframe 10 with a little more age.


Right on the money......could not have said it better....

Very good.
I'd add that I believe many (if not most) mainframe 8-pt yearlings will develop into mainframe 10-pointers by 3 1/2 years of age.

This is one reason I've come to despise antler-point restrictions, such as "4 on a side", "8 or 9 points", etc. --- as they cause an increased harvest of the best-antlered young bucks over no antler restrictions at all. The irony is that hunting areas without any antler restrictions may in fact have more larger antlered mature bucks than hunting areas using the antler restrictions such as above stated.

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#1730487 - 01/17/10 02:53 PM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: Wes Parrish]
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True, but many deer will never progress past a mainframe 8 regardless of age.

Edited by redblood (01/17/10 03:05 PM)
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#1730959 - 01/17/10 06:49 PM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: redblood]
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Once again, in the whitetail, anything more than 8 points is non-typical. But that has nothing to do with antler growth.

Confusing....huh? \:\)
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#1731882 - 01/18/10 07:50 AM Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt? [Re: bowriter]
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Until a deer reaches maturity atleast 4.5 he can grow most any type rack each year based on filling his needs physically and mentally. Once a buck reaches maturity he will likely have the same basic frame each year, but many times will grow addtl points and stickers.
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