#1732359 - 01/18/10 01:11 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Double-D-Team
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BSK,
Another question: You said a high protein diet? Of what? Exactly what I don't understand...High Protein pellets is what I have been putting in my feeders for the last 5 years. It seems to be working...
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#1732440 - 01/18/10 02:01 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Setterman
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You can plant clover and chicory for a good source of protein as well.
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#1732458 - 01/18/10 02:14 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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bowriter
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BSK-go back to a thread I posted a while back about the buck that lived in my backyard. He too lived almost to eight and was never over 120 inches ...if that.
You can't just depend on genetcis and you can't just depend on age and you can't just depend on nutrition. It takes all three in the right combination. But from 3.5 on, he was the dominant buck.
I still have some sharp sticks.
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#1732517 - 01/18/10 03:04 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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BSK
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BSK,
Another question: You said a high protein diet? Of what? Exactly what I don't understand...High Protein pellets is what I have been putting in my feeders for the last 5 years. It seems to be working...
What you feed a deer in a pen and what you do to manage wildlife are two different things.
I realize you're going to do/say whatever it takes to justify your actions, but you're never going to get me to say feeding WILDLIFE from a trough is a good thing.
Notice the first part of that word--"WILD."
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#1732519 - 01/18/10 03:05 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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BSK
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I still have some sharp sticks.
Can I get them by the dozen? 
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#1732596 - 01/18/10 03:59 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Wes Parrish
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The buck was raised on an all-you-can-eat corn diet. At 7 1/2 he was still growing about the best rack he ever had--a 110-class basic-frame 8. Then he was . . . . . . switched to a high-protein diet. At 8 1/2 he grew a monstrosity of a rack (170+ basic 12-point plus kickers if I remember correctly).
And this is just one more strong bit of "antedotal" evidence for why I've been saying feeding corn can be COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE in addition to all the other problems associated with feeders in Tennessee.
When corn is being fed, deer may eat a lot of the low-protein corn INSTEAD of the higher-protein forbes and natural browse, resulting in smaller antlers, not larger antlers.
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#1732624 - 01/18/10 04:24 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Double-D-Team
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Okay, can I just say I was wrong....Bowriter send 2 dozen to BSK and bill me....
By the way thanks to all....Lesson Learned....
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THE RICHEST VALUES OF WILDERNESS LIE NOT IN THE DAYS OF DANIEL BOONE NOR EVEN IN THE PRESENT. BUT IN THE FUTURE--LEOPOLD
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#1732739 - 01/18/10 05:34 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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Very interesting statements.
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#1732749 - 01/18/10 05:45 PM
Re: Once an 8pt always an 8pt?
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bowriter
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LOL- Maybe 10 years ago I did an article on ferilzing and cultivating natural browse. I can't remember what magazine it ran in but I thought I was going to get lynched because I said was far better than supplemental feeding. The dude down in AL with the feeders called me and cussed me for 10 minutes.
Larry Weishune-Mr Whitetail, called and said he wished he had the courage to write it. Improving natural browse is not new. It is no big secret. It is easy and cheap and it works. It just isn't high-tech enough for most people. It is just too simple. It makes too much sense so there is no way it can work.
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