#1729774 - 01/16/10 11:46 PM
Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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gator-n-buck
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I thought I would throw something out different to debate... What do you guys think?
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#1729785 - 01/17/10 12:02 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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bsl
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I believe hunting rubs is better than hunting scrapes.Seems like most bucks check scapes at night.I think people hunting scapes waste a lot of time when they could be hunting terrain features instead.
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#1729792 - 01/17/10 12:08 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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gator-n-buck
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I believe hunting rubs is better than hunting scrapes.Seems like most bucks check scapes at night.I think people hunting scapes waste a lot of time when they could be hunting terrain features instead.
I have heard the same thing and have killed bucks on rub lines but the biggest buck I have every killed was checking a scrape at 9:00 in the morning... I have alo has a few bucks checking scrapes I didn't know was there and they slipped in on me..
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#1729860 - 01/17/10 06:35 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Setterman
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Neither, I would not waste any of my time in the woods hunting them.
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#1729896 - 01/17/10 07:24 AM
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Even on trail cams I rarely,if ever,see bucks on scrapes in the day light
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#1729905 - 01/17/10 07:32 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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IMO, if I had to choose one it would be a rub line. I've noticed that right before the rut that the donate buck on a piece of property will check a rub line often. JMO...
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#1730013 - 01/17/10 09:06 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Neither, I would not waste any of my time in the woods hunting them.
Same here
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#1730040 - 01/17/10 09:30 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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paradis1142
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A rub line that goes from a thick area to a food source of some sort, and I would hunt on the edge of the thick stuff.
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#1730043 - 01/17/10 09:33 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Very simple answer-Hunt deer not trees or ground.
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#1730045 - 01/17/10 09:35 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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LOL @ BW
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#1730047 - 01/17/10 09:37 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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I have had great success hunting rub lines. But once rutting activity starts, you can forget both rubs and scrapes.
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#1730064 - 01/17/10 09:48 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Very simple answer-Hunt deer not trees or ground.
Agree....I'd be looking for pinch points from thick stuff to some kinda food source. Right on the edge. Rubs and scrapes tell me there was a buck in the area. Then I start looking for the above.
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#1730079 - 01/17/10 09:57 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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If I had to pick ONE, I'd go with rublines.
My thinking is that deer rub trees on their daily travels.....day or night. In order to find a deer, you must first try to pinpoint its daily haunts . A rubline is usually on one side of a tree telling me which way he is coming from and going to.....with a bit of aerial photo study and rublines, I can usually "figger" pretty close what a deer is doing and when.....if by no other reason that by figuring that if the rublines are closer to thick cover then probably he is either there at night or first light...... if I can find a trail that I "believe" he is using and follow it and continue to find rublines well away from thick bedding cover and closer to feeding areas, then I can deduct that he is in these areas at night.......SO.....if I find a rubline in fairly open cover or near feeding areas and can't really follow it to thicker cover, I ususally ignore it since I believe that the deer is using the rubline or is in that area at night....
I usually never hunt food sources and stick to cover and pinch points......deer sign is hot for a very small amount of time....don't spend all season hunting it....IMO.
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#1730145 - 01/17/10 11:06 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Agree....I'd be looking for pinch points from thick stuff to some kinda food source. Right on the edge. Rubs and scrapes tell me there was a buck in the area. Then I start looking for the above.
It took me a while to finally do this but this year I moved two stands on a small piece of property I've hunted for 5 years. I moved my stands in late muzzleloader and started seeing deer and lots of deer. I didn't move them more than 50-75 yards into these edges and I saw many more deer. Now Im looking forward to next years bow season. I had 9 deer on the last day I hunted (Jan 5th) in bow range. I always new this edge/pinch point had deer traveling through it but I always saw deer in the open hardwoods and just to stubborn to move.
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#1730168 - 01/17/10 11:21 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Mike Belt
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Depends on alot of factors including terrain and season. The only way I'd ever hunt a scrapeline would be just prior to the rut and to what would be described as the seeking phase...and even then it would have to be a piping hot scrapeline with each scrape visible from the last and in some type of travel corridor. It's great to have alot of scrapes in your hunting area but usually just sitting up over a scrape doesn't fill many tags. A rubline is similar but probably more productive than scrape hunting...again very dependant upon terrain and season. A rubline suggests buck travel patterns generally prior to the rut. In some instances it sees repeated usuage after the rut when bucks return to a more typical non-rutting routine. This is not always the case. Keep in mind that when that rubline was made it was probably during a time frame of different food sources and hunting pressure hadn't peaked yet. Things change during the course of a season. Also, from what I've seen in SW Tn hunting, the rut seems to still be somewhat active at the close of our hunting season prior to the bucks actually returning to their more typical pre-rut routines.
Edited by Mike Belt (01/17/10 11:22 AM)
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#1731054 - 01/17/10 07:16 PM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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gator-n-buck
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Very simple answer-Hunt deer not trees or ground.
I have to disagree with you bowriter...LOL I'm always hunting the ground for sign and the trees for a place to hang my stands..LOL
Edited by gator-n-buck (01/17/10 08:23 PM)
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#1731868 - 01/18/10 07:43 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Wildcat
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One thing about hunting rublines and/or scrapes, people hunt TOO CLOSE to them.
Heck I've seen hunters when they find a large rub, they will not say so, but the first tree they look up is the rubbed tree itself.
I do use rubs and scrpaes and the lay of the land to find travel patterns and I'll back off them 50 yards when placing a stand. A buck will travel to check on the scrapes but he does not have to go right to it, he can walk by DOWNWIND of it and check it out with his nose. I've seen it done a ton of times over my life. This is one reason people get so few pictures from "hot" scrapes, the bucks are 30-50 yards BEHIND the camera, they are "scent" checking it tough the wind.
Rublines do show a travel routine when they have both fresh and old rubs . There are places in LBL where I've found routines that have fresh rubs year after year following the same general pattern. When I put my stand nearby I always see bucks traveling though there, not always big bucks but all sizes and ages.
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#1731870 - 01/18/10 07:45 AM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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To answer the question, each situation is different. I dont actually hunt either one specifically, but you can bet your last dollar that I use both as another piece of the puzzle when trying to decipher an areas best stand site.
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#1732289 - 01/18/10 12:30 PM
Re: Better to hunt scrapes or rub lines?
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Don't really put alot of thought on either but have caught myself hunting both from time to time .
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