#1721594 - 01/12/10 04:04 PM
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cecil30-30
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Lets not turn this into a 3 buck limit vs 1 buck limit thread,but if your for it,just state it,please don't hijack..LOL With that being said,This time of year always excites me a little bit when TWRA starts taking suggestions for next seasons regs..I always do get worked up and excited when it comes time for TWRA to start making changes to the regs every year. So what changes do you want to see happen for TN next year? Me I'd like too see Morgan Co moved to Unit A..That may be wishing for alot..But I can wish.
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#1721605 - 01/12/10 04:09 PM
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eightpointer
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Unit L changed to 2 does a day.
MZ season become shotgun/MZ.
Make MZ/Shotgun season only 5 days.
Extend rifle season until Jan 31.
Add Meigs, McMinn, Hamilton Counties to Unit L.
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Edit Reason: forgot something.
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#1721621 - 01/12/10 04:15 PM
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I would leave the bag limits alone....but i would open bow season up 2 weeks earlier.....its already warm when it opens whats 2 more weekends....i would give us a little longer time to hunt them in their summer patterns....i would make rifle season longer too....if they dont want to shoot does because of them being pregant....whats the diffrence in a couple of weeks they are still pregant if you shoot them on Jan.1 or on Jan.25 it would help thin out the herd a little more...and plus bucks useally dont loose their horns until Feburary...so that would not be an issue....
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#1721622 - 01/12/10 04:16 PM
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ShaneHallum
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Switch back to the ML season we had in years past.
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#1721623 - 01/12/10 04:16 PM
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Switch back to the ML season we had in years past.
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#1721636 - 01/12/10 04:22 PM
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Open bow season later and make rifle extend to jan.31. 2 buck limit.
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#1721640 - 01/12/10 04:24 PM
Re: What kind of change?
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Wes Parrish
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I'll speak in terms of "statewide", rather than regarding any specific county.
1) ALL deer season segments become "either-sex", without anyone having to pay extra to kill an "antlerless" deer.
2) Statewide "antlered" buck limit changed to two (2), with "antlerless" limits varying by specific units and counties. But until and unless a hunter has harvested "a" deer, he wouldn't even have to think about whether "any" deer is legal game --- hunter's choice --- 1st deer he wants to kill becomes legal statewide.
3) Change the current December archery segment(s) to "rifle, ML, archery", i.e. just a continuance of the "rifle" season, with the traditional archery season ending in late October or early November. Basically, we would have an early archery season, then a muzzleloader season, and then a traditional rifle season (with no going back and forth). And then no reason not to open up archery season a week earlier, thus adding back the December "archery only" days in September.
4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. Basically, those late-season gun-hunting days would be added in December (by converting archery days to gun), thus very little deer-hunting opportunity would be lost by anyone, and for many, this would be a net gain in hunting opportunity, particularly those in counties where there's still rut activity going on during the current December archery segment.
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#1721661 - 01/12/10 04:41 PM
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4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st.
I like that one....
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#1721704 - 01/12/10 05:04 PM
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2 buck statewide limit
Eliminate ML altogether- change it to rifle...
Rifle opens Nov 7-Dec 15, then closes for good
Archery sept 1-nov 1, then again dec 16-Jan 1.
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#1721710 - 01/12/10 05:11 PM
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mathews338
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open bow season sept 1
shorter firearms season
2 buck limit
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#1721713 - 01/12/10 05:15 PM
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I would like to see bow season stay open all year long (never close even during Juvi) and be either sex state wide.
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#1721721 - 01/12/10 05:16 PM
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Switch back to the ML season we had in years past.
Make the one-time change in ML we had this year permanent, so we always have the first two weeks of November as ML, instead of splitting it.
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#1721729 - 01/12/10 05:23 PM
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4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. I like that one....
We got lambasted when we recommended that about 4 or 5 years ago.
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#1721730 - 01/12/10 05:23 PM
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I wish button bucks would be count as a buck instead of antlerless, but that wont ever happen.
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#1721732 - 01/12/10 05:23 PM
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Change from giving out antlerless tags in Unit B and just give hunters more opportunities to kill antlerless deer during the season... One way is to let hunters shoot an antlerless deer anytime during the two weeks of MZ in all counties of Unit B. Example: Why give out 800 doe tags in Anderson Co. but on the other hand only let you shoot an antlerless deer the first few days of MZ season in Anderson Co. Also I have never understood the tags being late season rifle after most does are bred...
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#1721742 - 01/12/10 05:34 PM
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I'll speak in terms of "statewide", rather than regarding any specific county.
1) ALL deer season segments become "either-sex", without anyone having to pay extra to kill an "antlerless" deer.
2) Statewide "antlered" buck limit changed to two (2), with "antlerless" limits varying by specific units and counties. But until and unless a hunter has harvested "a" deer, he wouldn't even have to think about whether "any" deer is legal game --- hunter's choice --- 1st deer he wants to kill becomes legal statewide.
3) Change the current December archery segment(s) to "rifle, ML, archery", i.e. just a continuance of the "rifle" season, with the traditional archery season ending in late October or early November. Basically, we would have an early archery season, then a muzzleloader season, and then a traditional rifle season (with no going back and forth). And then no reason not to open up archery season a week earlier, thus adding back the December "archery only" days in September.
4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. Basically, those late-season gun-hunting days would be added in December (by converting archery days to gun), thus very little deer-hunting opportunity would be lost by anyone, and for many, this would be a net gain in hunting opportunity, particularly those in counties where there's still rut activity going on during the current December archery segment.
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#1721747 - 01/12/10 05:37 PM
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Switch back to the ML season we had in years past. X2
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#1721757 - 01/12/10 05:43 PM
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Let rifle end on Jan 31st
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#1721759 - 01/12/10 05:43 PM
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2 buck limit and 86 the dec archery.
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#1721764 - 01/12/10 05:45 PM
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1.) Change the "Permanent Opening Date" for Archery to the 3RD Saturday in September.
2.) Allow the final Gun segment to run all the way to the final Juvenille hunt without a week delay of No Hunting.
3.) Keep the GUN segment continuous without the "Archery Only" dates that seperate Gun.
It is a bit nerve racking to head back into the woods during that Arhcery Only, not having to wear Blaze Orange, and to hear gun shots in the distance. Seems like some don't like the seperation of the weapons either.
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#1721775 - 01/12/10 05:49 PM
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1.) Change the "Permanent Opening Date" for Archery to the 3RD Saturday in September.
2.) Allow the final Gun segment to run all the way to the final Juvenille hunt without a week delay of No Hunting.
3.) Keep the GUN segment continuous without the "Archery Only" dates that seperate Gun.
It is a bit nerve racking to head back into the woods during that Arhcery Only, not having to wear Blaze Orange, and to hear gun shots in the distance. Seems like some don't like the seperation of the weapons either.
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#1721776 - 01/12/10 05:49 PM
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I wouldnt mind seeing bow open earlier,I LOVE TO HUNT!
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#1721788 - 01/12/10 05:54 PM
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Goverment funding for processing deer, for hunters for the hungry!
A great way to drop the doe heard, plus feed our or needy here in our state!
Only change I would like to see period!
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#1721789 - 01/12/10 05:54 PM
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3 buck statewide limit,with no more than one buck taken per weapon...
Change muzzleloader season back to the way it was...
Either leagalize baiting or do away with feeding at any time...
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#1721839 - 01/12/10 06:17 PM
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Archery only all of October.
Firearm/Archery all of November.
Archery only all of Decemeber.
2 buck limit.
Taking cover now.... 
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#1721849 - 01/12/10 06:20 PM
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Make Humphreys county archery only....... all the time for BSK.
Oh yeah, In before BSK's suggestion for outlawing archery hunting.
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#1721878 - 01/12/10 06:33 PM
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Goverment funding for processing deer, for hunters for the hungry!
A great way to drop the doe heard, plus feed our or needy here in our state!
Only change I would like to see period!
Thats a great idea.
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#1721879 - 01/12/10 06:34 PM
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Bone Collector
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1.) Change the "Permanent Opening Date" for Archery to the 3RD Saturday in September.
2.) Allow the final Gun segment to run all the way to the final Juvenille hunt without a week delay of No Hunting.
3.) Keep the GUN segment continuous without the "Archery Only" dates that seperate Gun.
It is a bit nerve racking to head back into the woods during that Arhcery Only, not having to wear Blaze Orange, and to hear gun shots in the distance. Seems like some don't like the seperation of the weapons either.
That sounds good to me. Except in the past few seasons i have started noticing a lot of target shooting right at dawn and dusk in early to mid October. 
Edited by Bone Collector (01/12/10 06:35 PM)
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#1721880 - 01/12/10 06:35 PM
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Goverment funding for processing deer, for hunters for the hungry!
A great way to drop the doe heard, plus feed our or needy here in our state!
Only change I would like to see period!
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#1721881 - 01/12/10 06:36 PM
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Make Humphreys county archery only....... all the time for BSK. Oh yeah, In before BSK's suggestion for outlawing archery hunting.
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#1721933 - 01/12/10 07:05 PM
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I'll speak in terms of "statewide", rather than regarding any specific county.
1) ALL deer season segments become "either-sex", without anyone having to pay extra to kill an "antlerless" deer.
2) Statewide "antlered" buck limit changed to two (2), with "antlerless" limits varying by specific units and counties. But until and unless a hunter has harvested "a" deer, he wouldn't even have to think about whether "any" deer is legal game --- hunter's choice --- 1st deer he wants to kill becomes legal statewide.
3) Change the current December archery segment(s) to "rifle, ML, archery", i.e. just a continuance of the "rifle" season, with the traditional archery season ending in late October or early November. Basically, we would have an early archery season, then a muzzleloader season, and then a traditional rifle season (with no going back and forth). And then no reason not to open up archery season a week earlier, thus adding back the December "archery only" days in September.
4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. Basically, those late-season gun-hunting days would be added in December (by converting archery days to gun), thus very little deer-hunting opportunity would be lost by anyone, and for many, this would be a net gain in hunting opportunity, particularly those in counties where there's still rut activity going on during the current December archery segment.
X2
And open archery season the third Saturday in September.
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#1721935 - 01/12/10 07:07 PM
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X-3
Switch back to the ML season we had in years past. X2
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#1721994 - 01/12/10 07:32 PM
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Couple problems with those folks wanting to open deer season and run it through jan 31 is the intrusion on small game hunters. They are already a dying breed and deer season is already intruding on their (my) time enough already. The government funding of hunters for the hungry is a terrible idea. Take tax dollars from taxed to death working men and women to fund a program that makes it easier for Joe Triggerhappy to blaze a few extra deer and not have to mess with them, while the working man pickups up the tab.
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#1722014 - 01/12/10 07:37 PM
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How bout we seem to have some personal agendas on this post! It seems to me that the state needs to catch up with the year 2010 and get the dates out! I look at Ga. and they have there dates set and when Tn. decides to do that they need to leave the dates locked in for 5 years min. The limits can be changed year to year. It makes it kind of difficult if you dont know when hunting season is scheduled until 4 months prior. Pa. is always the first monday after thanksgiving. At least you can schedule vacation a year in advance. Just my 2 cents!
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#1722020 - 01/12/10 07:38 PM
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I'll speak in terms of "statewide", rather than regarding any specific county.
1) ALL deer season segments become "either-sex", without anyone having to pay extra to kill an "antlerless" deer.
2) Statewide "antlered" buck limit changed to two (2), with "antlerless" limits varying by specific units and counties. But until and unless a hunter has harvested "a" deer, he wouldn't even have to think about whether "any" deer is legal game --- hunter's choice --- 1st deer he wants to kill becomes legal statewide.
3) Change the current December archery segment(s) to "rifle, ML, archery", i.e. just a continuance of the "rifle" season, with the traditional archery season ending in late October or early November. Basically, we would have an early archery season, then a muzzleloader season, and then a traditional rifle season (with no going back and forth). And then no reason not to open up archery season a week earlier, thus adding back the December "archery only" days in September.
4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. Basically, those late-season gun-hunting days would be added in December (by converting archery days to gun), thus very little deer-hunting opportunity would be lost by anyone, and for many, this would be a net gain in hunting opportunity, particularly those in counties where there's still rut activity going on during the current December archery segment.
Great idea. Near perfect idea IMO. I have never understood the filp flopping. Don't see any reason for a second juvenile or extending the season past Jan 1. But a second juvenile would be fine, but all deer hunting would be over Jan 1. Deer season just seems to get longer and longer each year.
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#1722031 - 01/12/10 07:41 PM
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2 buck limit
1 week Rifle in last part of November
1 week ML in Mid-November.
Archery from October- January
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#1722052 - 01/12/10 07:47 PM
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Do the quota hunts the way they were in the past...
Most of us dont have a computer at work and cant get on one until after work ,when all the tags have been gave out...
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#1722129 - 01/12/10 08:05 PM
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2 buck limit
1 week Rifle in last part of November
1 week ML in Mid-November.
Archery from October- January
It will NEVER happen but I am in !!!!
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#1722191 - 01/12/10 08:17 PM
Re: What kind of change?
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4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. I like that one.... We got lambasted when we recommended that about 4 or 5 years ago.
Ah, but back then you were taking away gun hunting days, whereas this suggestion is basically to move them from January to December, just like you moved muzzleloader days from December to November this past year.
By the way, I'm getting lots of reports of older bucks that have already shed their antlers being mistaken and killed as "monster does" during the January gun hunting --- something that would happen much less if the January days were shifted to December.
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#1722209 - 01/12/10 08:19 PM
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Keep the season open til Jan 31 or shift the whole season about 3 weeks.
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#1722248 - 01/12/10 08:26 PM
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Keep the season open til Jan 31 or shift the whole season about 3 weeks.
Sounds great. We can run off the last few small game hunters we have, and kill a bunch of bucks that will be shot as does because they have already shed their antlers.
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#1722299 - 01/12/10 08:36 PM
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[quote=Wes Parrish]4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. I like that one.... We got lambasted when we recommended that about 4 or 5 years ago.
Ah, but back then you were taking away gun hunting days, whereas this suggestion is basically to move them from January to December, just like you moved muzzleloader days from December to November this past year.
By the way, I'm getting lots of reports of older bucks that have already shed their antlers being mistaken and killed as "monster does" during the January gun hunting --- something that would happen much less if the January days were shifted to
Great point. Season need to end with december. We do a lot of hunting in jan for yotes and see quite a few bucks that have shed. Game over jan. 1. 3+ solid months of deer hunting is enough. Deer are not the only game to pursue.
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#1722459 - 01/12/10 09:11 PM
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Open bow season Sept 1st
All "seasons" either sex for sho!
Eliminate muzzleloader season sounds great (i hate my cheapo scoped 200 yard ranged inline "traditional" muzzleloader LOL)
Statwide buck limit 1
Close season Jan 1st sounds good too
Good suggestions by all.
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#1722518 - 01/12/10 09:21 PM
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2 Buck limit.
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#1722611 - 01/12/10 09:44 PM
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1 buck limit extend it to jan31 make ml shotgun also
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#1722621 - 01/12/10 09:46 PM
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I'll speak in terms of "statewide", rather than regarding any specific county.
1) ALL deer season segments become "either-sex", without anyone having to pay extra to kill an "antlerless" deer.
2) Statewide "antlered" buck limit changed to two (2), with "antlerless" limits varying by specific units and counties. But until and unless a hunter has harvested "a" deer, he wouldn't even have to think about whether "any" deer is legal game --- hunter's choice --- 1st deer he wants to kill becomes legal statewide.
3) Change the current December archery segment(s) to "rifle, ML, archery", i.e. just a continuance of the "rifle" season, with the traditional archery season ending in late October or early November. Basically, we would have an early archery season, then a muzzleloader season, and then a traditional rifle season (with no going back and forth). And then no reason not to open up archery season a week earlier, thus adding back the December "archery only" days in September.
4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. Basically, those late-season gun-hunting days would be added in December (by converting archery days to gun), thus very little deer-hunting opportunity would be lost by anyone, and for many, this would be a net gain in hunting opportunity, particularly those in counties where there's still rut activity going on during the current December archery segment. X2 And open archery season the third Saturday in September.
This is the best suggestion I've read on here but I would love to see our archery season open the 1st weekend of September! Give us a chance at those bucks in velvet and on their summer patterns!
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#1722632 - 01/12/10 09:48 PM
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Opeming deer seadon on sept 1st is not a sound idea for obvious reasons. 1. Same day as dove season- think about the issues that could arise there. 2. In the peak of early squirrel season and yes there are still a few of us left. 3. Bucks still in velvet, red coated and pot bellied 4. Heat- extreme heat 5. Too hot to cut up deer/ meat spoilage 6. Fawns still dependent on mom and many folks shoot does with a bow. 7. External parasites still prevalent. 8.another month to educate mature bucks before we are holding a piece equiptment that is effective in killing them. Let me know if you need more.
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#1722656 - 01/12/10 09:53 PM
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Works just fine in ky. 
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#1722668 - 01/12/10 09:56 PM
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Opeming deer seadon on sept 1st is not a sound idea for obvious reasons. 1. Same day as dove season- think about the issues that could arise there. 2. In the peak of early squirrel season and yes there are still a few of us left. 3. Bucks still in velvet, red coated and pot bellied 4. Heat- extreme heat 5. Too hot to cut up deer/ meat spoilage 6. Fawns still dependent on mom and many folks shoot does with a bow. 7. External parasites still prevalent. 8.another month to educate mature bucks before we are holding a piece equiptment that is effective in killing them. Let me know if you need more.
1. makes no sense small game is open during deer season anyways. 2. Ah you can squirell hunt in spring squirrel and into deer seasons.
3. Ah that's the point
4. I've seen high 80s and low 90 temps in October
5. Get it to the cooler or do it right when you get home don't sit on the couch and have a coke!
6. I've seen does with fawns all through hunting season and still milking on them
7. They are still present until the 1st frost which can be as late as November
8. Ah you can educate a mature buck by doing pre-season scouting or in a blast fest of opening weekend of muzzle!
Need any more let me know!
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#1722710 - 01/12/10 10:17 PM
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Statewide 2 bucks, the second must meet some min. requirements. No more ML season, go from bow to rifles. Also, one season limit rather then the current fragmented bag limits.
Honestly I could live with things the way they are now, it allows me to manage how I need to, but if things were perfect the above is what I would like.
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#1722729 - 01/12/10 10:33 PM
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I don't really care what the changes are, as long as we are able
to deer hunt. Even a one buck limit would be fine to me. I think
I could adjust to a one buck limit.......just like several other
states hunters have.
Alot of people say "we can't match up to other states", but I am
not in competition.......with "other states". No matter what the
buck limit is in Tennessee, I will hunt for the buck that I want.
I used to be "horn happy", but I have realized that a 1.5 buck
is easy pickings. I am all for anyone else shooting what they
want. I am just telling how I feel for myself.
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#1722739 - 01/12/10 10:54 PM
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Leave it the way it is now.
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#1722778 - 01/13/10 12:24 AM
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How bout we seem to have some personal agendas on this post! It seems to me that the state needs to catch up with the year 2010 and get the dates out! I look at Ga. and they have there dates set and when Tn. decides to do that they need to leave the dates locked in for 5 years min. The limits can be changed year to year. It makes it kind of difficult if you dont know when hunting season is scheduled until 4 months prior. Pa. is always the first monday after thanksgiving. At least you can schedule vacation a year in advance. Just my 2 cents!
and tennessee gun is always the saturday before thanksgiving.
bow is the 4th saturday in sept.
m/l is the 1st saturday in nov.
squirrel is the 4th saturday in august
we have had these permanent openers(other than a change in muzzleloader) as long as i have been hunting.
as for changes, morgan co. in unit A and some doe opportunities with a rifle sounds good to me. i also loved the continuous muzzleloader season. no changes to bag limits.
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#1722795 - 01/13/10 03:43 AM
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Leave it the way it is now.
There you go. Ditto
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#1722820 - 01/13/10 05:26 AM
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Switch back to the ML season we had in years past.
X 3 Or at least don't have the late bow season , open the second gun season early (just my opinion).
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#1722884 - 01/13/10 06:44 AM
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Leave it the way it is now. There you go. Ditto
Yep. At least give the ML season change another season or two to see the effect it might actually have, instead of just one try and out the window. 
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#1722898 - 01/13/10 06:53 AM
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Start archery Sept 1, keep ml like it is and due away with second archery and start gun then.
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#1723046 - 01/13/10 08:16 AM
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I would be happy with things going back to how they were a few yrs ago. Muzzleloader opened on monday and ran through sunday, and all deer hunting ended with the setting sun on jan 1st. A 3 buck limit would be nice, but willl settle for 3 as it seems most hunters are doing a better job of managing the buck harvest themselves.
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#1723053 - 01/13/10 08:18 AM
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Bow season open Oct 1st
2 buck limit
Break between mzloader and gun
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#1723105 - 01/13/10 08:52 AM
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Couple problems with those folks wanting to open deer season and run it through jan 31 is the intrusion on small game hunters. They are already a dying breed and deer season is already intruding on their (my) time enough already. The government funding of hunters for the hungry is a terrible idea. Take tax dollars from taxed to death working men and women to fund a program that makes it easier for Joe Triggerhappy to blaze a few extra deer and not have to mess with them, while the working man pickups up the tab.
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#1723112 - 01/13/10 08:57 AM
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[quote=Wes Parrish]4) This one may be less popular with many hunters, but end deer season on January 1st. I like that one.... We got lambasted when we recommended that about 4 or 5 years ago. Ah, but back then you were taking away gun hunting days, whereas this suggestion is basically to move them from January to December, just like you moved muzzleloader days from December to November this past year. By the way, I'm getting lots of reports of older bucks that have already shed their antlers being mistaken and killed as "monster does" during the January gun hunting --- something that would happen much less if the January days were shifted to Great point. Season need to end with december. We do a lot of hunting in jan for yotes and see quite a few bucks that have shed. Game over jan. 1. 3+ solid months of deer hunting is enough. Deer are not the only game to pursue.
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#1723130 - 01/13/10 09:06 AM
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I would leave the bag limits alone....but i would open bow season up 2 weeks earlier.....its already warm when it opens whats 2 more weekends....i would give us a little longer time to hunt them in their summer patterns....i would make rifle season longer too....if they dont want to shoot does because of them being pregant....whats the diffrence in a couple of weeks they are still pregant if you shoot them on Jan.1 or on Jan.25 it would help thin out the herd a little more...and plus bucks useally dont loose their horns until Feburary...so that would not be an issue....
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#1723141 - 01/13/10 09:14 AM
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None. I'm very pleased with the current regs/seasons/limits.
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#1723171 - 01/13/10 09:33 AM
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Everything is fine the way it is. Not everyone is going to be satisfied or understand by TWRA does what it does, but for what it is and the funding they get, I'm pretty happy.
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#1723289 - 01/13/10 10:39 AM
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Go from a 3 Buck limit to a 4 Buck limit. 1 Buck limit guys have to hunt another state and are banned from Tennessee.
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#1723301 - 01/13/10 10:47 AM
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I wouldnt mind seeing the MZ seasons moved back to separate dates with Archery in the middle before gun season opens again. I also think Unit B would benefit from all 3 bucks not being legal in any single MZ or gun season as well, 2 would be plenty with MZ or Gun IMO!
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#1723399 - 01/13/10 11:27 AM
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I realize the TWRA has to keep the bow-turkey days in early December, but it sure would stop much of the regional fighting over gun-MZ days from occurring if all of November and December were open to some type of firearms hunting (MZ or gun). Peak rutting dates vary dramatically across the state, from early November to mid-December. I would like to see everyone get to hunt their local peak of the rut with some type of firearm.
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#1723429 - 01/13/10 11:41 AM
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2 buck statewide limit
Eliminate ML altogether- change it to rifle...
Rifle opens Nov 7-Dec 15, then closes for good
Archery sept 1-nov 1, then again dec 16-Jan 1.
Same here with a slight addition:
Do away with the Archery-Muzzloader-Gun license and go to a
"Deer Tag" - Three deer, only two antlered.
"Bonus deer tag" - for antlerless deer where needed
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#1723430 - 01/13/10 11:41 AM
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I realize the TWRA has to keep the bow-turkey days in early December, but it sure would stop much of the regional fighting over gun-MZ days from occurring if all of November and December were open to some type of firearms hunting (MZ or gun). Peak rutting dates vary dramatically across the state, from early November to mid-December. I would like to see everyone get to hunt their local peak of the rut with some type of firearm.
And we don't even have any fall turkey days in our co! 
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#1723705 - 01/13/10 03:02 PM
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2 buck statewide limit
Eliminate ML altogether- change it to rifle...
Rifle opens Nov 7-Dec 15, then closes for good
Archery sept 1-nov 1, then again dec 16-Jan 1.
I like this
But I would have a late season Muzzleloader season
maby a three day season Fri-Sun
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#1724018 - 01/13/10 06:40 PM
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I realize the TWRA has to keep the bow-turkey days in early December
Why?
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#1724079 - 01/13/10 07:03 PM
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i would like to be able to kill a doe or 2 during rifle season not including the quota hunt
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#1724302 - 01/13/10 08:09 PM
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would be awesome more archery days,,, how about an archery season with turkeys first two weeks,, asked about this last year,,, twra go by harvest-- need more deer killed this year extend season...
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#1724418 - 01/13/10 08:37 PM
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Bow season is open continually from sept 25 to jan 12th. How many more days do bowhunters need.
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#1724477 - 01/13/10 08:53 PM
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Bow season is open continually from sept 25 to jan 12th.
Best idea yet.
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#1724487 - 01/13/10 08:56 PM
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Unit L become a trophy zone 2 buck limit first buck any antlered deer , second must be 9pts or better. Archery open 3rd wknd sept till 3rd wknd in oct. Juvi 4th wknd oct. Muzzle loader first week of nov 7 days. Rifle open third week in nov till secon wknd in dec,then archery till jan1 then game over! Make all WMA 's in unit L trophy areas with a draw system like Lbl or Presidents Island ! Unit A and B can remain unchanged!
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#1724540 - 01/13/10 09:10 PM
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Unit L become a trophy zone 2 buck limit first buck any antlered deer , second must be 9pts or better. Archery open 3rd wknd sept till 3rd wknd in oct. Juvi 4th wknd oct. Muzzle loader first week of nov 7 days. Rifle open third week in nov till secon wknd in dec,then archery till jan1 then game over! Make all WMA 's in unit L trophy areas with a draw system like Lbl or Presidents Island ! Unit A and B can remain unchanged!
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#1724674 - 01/13/10 09:55 PM
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Most bucks in unit L will only be 8 pts no matter how old they live
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#1724721 - 01/13/10 10:36 PM
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That is incorrect.
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#1724731 - 01/13/10 10:41 PM
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Difficult to prove either way, but I have killed a lot of mature bucks (all I shoot) and only one was a mainframe 10. Same with trailcam photos. The 9 pt rule sure did not work out well for laurel hill wma. I am for any regulation that encourages the growth of larger deer, but a lot of 5.5 year old 8 pts would have to be passed if we put a 9 or 10 pt rule in effect.
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#1724833 - 01/14/10 05:34 AM
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A 9 or 10 pt rule is absurd IMO, and should not be used anywhere. It does seem like a lot of bucks peak as 8 points all over the south, but plenty show up which are more then that.
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#1724838 - 01/14/10 05:49 AM
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I'd like to see a step towards micro-management. Tn is broken down into a few units but there may be variants in those populations, dynamics, etc. I particularly like this idea during the muzzleloader seasons. Since the changes made last year we miss hunting the rut in SW Tn. by missing our "typical" week after rifle season hunting. Switch it back to the way it was before or keep the second week as it stands now (making it our first week) and add the week after the first rifle season back in as our second week.
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#1725614 - 01/14/10 03:55 PM
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well...during the fall turkey hunt last year.i saw bucks chasing does all over they place...it finally cooled of and the deer was active.....i know you can bow hunt...but being in a tree without leaves and trying to draw is pretty hard....and they whole 40 yards or less while bow hunting...is pretty hard when they are running...if i would have had gun would have probally killed a good buck.....but i know that the rut varies from year to year but this year in southern maury co...i peaked around the 2-3rd week of december...and now the second rut is going...saw bucks chasing does last saturday and all week...but now i cant hunt them..because season is closed...so i would make the southern part get to gun hunt a little longer...
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#1726196 - 01/14/10 08:34 PM
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Thats why I said 9pt or better on the [second buck]
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#1726200 - 01/14/10 08:36 PM
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Thats why I said 9pt or better on the [second buck]
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#1726207 - 01/14/10 08:39 PM
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There are some very big, fully mature 8 pts out there.
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#1726436 - 01/14/10 10:06 PM
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Number of points don't mean squat. I have seen many 6, 7, and 8
pointers killed over the last 40 years.....that would blow your
mind away.
I talked to a hunter that hunted Laurel Hill a couple of years
ago, and he had to let a MONSTER 8 pointer walk away at 30 yards
while hunting with a rifle. He estimated the deer was atleast
4.5 years old and would have scored close to 145. He is still
sick about it and he said he almost shot anyway, but he could
clearly tell the buck only had 8 points. I would say that deer
died of old age........with 8 points.
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#1726550 - 01/15/10 05:32 AM
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Here is one of bucks I killed this year, which no one would pass up anywhere in the country. To think this deer could be illegal because of a BS point rule is amazing.
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#1726583 - 01/15/10 06:20 AM
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Ive heard that a B&C 8 ptr was killed somewhere this year,probably In Iowa??!!Those are very rare,ONly a dozen or so in the book I believe.An 8 ptr that will make 170 is VERY impressive looking.
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#1726600 - 01/15/10 06:30 AM
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Okay, here is another thought...
What about the hunters that are managing there property that need to shoot some cull bucks that are 4 or 6 pointers, that's all they will be? With a point restriction that can't be done. Just a thought....
FBH, you right I've seen some real nice 8 pointers that were killed this year and yes it would be hard for me to turn down a 160 plus 8 pointer. Don't think I could....
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#1726795 - 01/15/10 08:22 AM
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Setterman
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Okay, here is another thought...
What about the hunters that are managing there property that need to shoot some cull bucks that are 4 or 6 pointers, that's all they will be? With a point restriction that can't be done. Just a thought....
FBH, you right I've seen some real nice 8 pointers that were killed this year and yes it would be hard for me to turn down a 160 plus 8 pointer. Don't think I could....
Personally I do not believe in Cull bucks.
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#1726805 - 01/15/10 08:25 AM
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Okay, here is another thought...
What about the hunters that are managing there property that need to shoot some cull bucks that are 4 or 6 pointers, that's all they will be? With a point restriction that can't be done. Just a thought....
FBH, you right I've seen some real nice 8 pointers that were killed this year and yes it would be hard for me to turn down a 160 plus 8 pointer. Don't think I could.... Personally I do not believe in Cull bucks.
Cull bucks definitely exist, they are the bucks that reach 4.5 yrs and older that grow small/inferior racks! That is a cull, a mature buck with a small rack.
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#1726815 - 01/15/10 08:30 AM
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Will you let him walk, chip? I didn't think so. That 9 point rule crap is BS! Laurel Hill tried it and realized it doesn't work.
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#1726927 - 01/15/10 09:32 AM
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Okay, here is another thought...
What about the hunters that are managing there property that need to shoot some cull bucks that are 4 or 6 pointers, that's all they will be?
In my opinion, we should think like there is no such thing as a "cull" buck in Tennessee.
Very, very, very few bucks will not have at least 7 or more points by the time they reach 3 1/2 years of age, while most bucks shot as "culls" have simply been yearling to 2 1/2-yr-old bucks that were rather average-antlered for their age ---- most of which would have developed antlers most of the "cullers" would have done shoulder mounts on had they let those bucks live another year or two.
At least in terms of statewide free-roaming deer, the term "culling" has become nothing more than an excuse to shoot a young small-antlered buck. If you want to shoot a young small-antlered buck, fine, just do it. But it's not culling here, or in Texas, or anywhere else.
And who cares that much about the number of points anyway?
A 140-class 6-pointer will have much larger rack than a 140-class 10-pointer.
To think this deer could be illegal because of a BS point rule is amazing.
And aren't you glad someone didn't "cull" that one when he was a 4-point yearling?
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#1727087 - 01/15/10 11:37 AM
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Wes, I hear what you are saying but I believe there are cull bucks here in East Tn. Example: I killed a six pointer this past season that was 4.5 years old. In 2009 killed a 4 pointer that was 5 years old. I had watch and photo'ed these deer for about 4 years. So to say there is no cull bucks, I don't think so. JMO.... PS: Glad to hear from you..... 
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#1727103 - 01/15/10 11:44 AM
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Wes, I hear what you are saying but I believe there are cull bucks here in East Tn. Example: I killed a six pointer this past season that was 4.5 years old. In 2009 killed a 4 pointer that was 5 years old. I had watch and photo'ed these deer for about 4 years. So to say there is no cull bucks, I don't think so. JMO.... PS: Glad to hear from you..... i know what your saying but at least those bucks you mentioned got the chance to be all they could be
Exactly, and they ended up being Culls! Any mature buck that has a little small rack is a CULL! IMO anyway
Now until they have had every chance and 4.5 yrs to grow out of being inferior, I dont think any culls exist, but past 4.5 if he dont have it he's not going to.
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#1727108 - 01/15/10 11:48 AM
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Wes, I hear what you are saying but I believe there are cull bucks here in East Tn. Example: I killed a six pointer this past season that was 4.5 years old. In 2009 killed a 4 pointer that was 5 years old. I had watch and photo'ed these deer for about 4 years. So to say there is no cull bucks, I don't think so. JMO.... PS: Glad to hear from you..... i know what your saying but at least those bucks you mentioned got the chance to be all they could be
Your right they did, but the reason I say there is cull bucks is because we have come a long way in management to a degree. The brown and down days for some are long gone and we look closer at the deer we are about to shoot or at least I do. I prefer mature bucks to young ones but there are mature by age and not so much in size. So there it is, for me a cull buck. Let me clear up one thing...I've worked this property for going on 8 years and I only take mature bucks off it and mature for me is in the 4 to 5 year old bracket. But some have pointed out other things I do wrong on this property as well so I'm not the gospel. I just try hard.....
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#1727223 - 01/15/10 01:19 PM
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Wes,
I hear what you are saying but I believe there are cull bucks here in East Tn.
Example: I killed a six pointer this past season that was 4.5 years old. In 2009 killed a 4 pointer that was 5 years old. I had watch and photo'ed these deer for about 4 years. So to say there is no cull bucks, I don't think so. JMO....
Double-D
I completely respect your opinion but here is the biological data from East Tennessee...
As you can see, many mature bucks in east Tennessee don't even hit the 8-point level. Instead of calling them cull bucks we like to refer to them as "bucks".
With that many in the herd, I doubt culling is going to do a thing. It's a nutrition problem not a genetic problem.
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#1727254 - 01/15/10 01:49 PM
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Leave it the way it is now.
I agree why mess with perfection.
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#1727265 - 01/15/10 01:58 PM
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Wes,
I hear what you are saying but I believe there are cull bucks here in East Tn.
Example: I killed a six pointer this past season that was 4.5 years old. In 2009 killed a 4 pointer that was 5 years old. I had watch and photo'ed these deer for about 4 years. So to say there is no cull bucks, I don't think so. JMO....
Double-D I completely respect your opinion but here is the biological data from East Tennessee... As you can see, many mature bucks in east Tennessee don't even hit the 8-point level. Instead of calling them cull bucks we like to refer to them as "bucks". With that many in the herd, I doubt culling is going to do a thing. It's a nutrition problem not a genetic problem.
Its kind of disheartening to see that we are still killing over 50% yearling bucks in Region 4. How does this % stack up with years past BGG?
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#1727267 - 01/15/10 02:02 PM
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2 buck limit
start archery 1 week earlier in sept
bring back the archery between the 1st ml and rifle season to let the deer calm down a little before 1st rifle season like it was before
take stewart county out of unit L
stop hunting jan 1 is a great idea!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
or keep the 3 buck limit
but make a its got nads one time rule and count one "anterless" buck against the 3
or 2 buck limit for 2 years consecutive
then 3 buck limit for 2 years consecutive
do this for 8-10 years
age class across the board survivors i.e.numbers and probabilty,
make the bone hunters happy and the brown downers.
or just go to the season setting meeting and in person present your point of veiw
might be a vacation day well spent
i hope they have free food!!!!!!!!
dont allow baiting
might want to look at county specific stuff increase or decrease
and shoot every friggin poacher !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
found 3 bucks this year all with antlers zipped off and 2 of them with backstraps cut out
none of them dressed out........................
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#1727301 - 01/15/10 02:20 PM
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From my past experiences people kept the "cull buck" card in their pocket for when they accidently shot an immature buck. I never go to the woods thinking of culling a deer for an inferior rack. There is too many things which can effect a set of antlers from year to year. A deer may be 3.5 one year with a mainframe 6 point rack, and the next year have 160" 10 pt rack.
Culling bucks should only be done if a manager has seen a particular buck for several consecutive seasons and the deer is showing no signs of improvement or further development. JMO
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#1727371 - 01/15/10 03:05 PM
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Lets not turn this into a 3 buck limit vs 1 buck limit thread,but if your for it,just state it,please don't hijack..LOL With that being said,This time of year always excites me a little bit when TWRA starts taking suggestions for next seasons regs..I always do get worked up and excited when it comes time for TWRA to start making changes to the regs every year. So what changes do you want to see happen for TN next year? Me I'd like too see Morgan Co moved to Unit A..That may be wishing for alot..But I can wish.
I would like for TWRA to trap all the hogs off the places i hunt and moved to wherever they think they need to be...
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#1727761 - 01/15/10 06:53 PM
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Its kind of disheartening to see that we are still killing over 50% yearling bucks in Region 4. How does this % stack up with years past BGG?
Winchester,
The data I posted from Region IV was a total from 2005-2009. If you look soley at 2009, the age data looks like the following:
1-1/2: 45%
2-1/2: 36%
3-1/2: 17%
4-1/2: 2%
Considering Region IV is supposed to be our 'worst' region (according to some), we're very happy with those numbers.
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#1727800 - 01/15/10 07:18 PM
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Leave it the way it is now.
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#1727871 - 01/15/10 07:54 PM
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Lets not turn this into a 3 buck limit vs 1 buck limit thread,but if your for it,just state it,please don't hijack..LOL With that being said,This time of year always excites me a little bit when TWRA starts taking suggestions for next seasons regs..I always do get worked up and excited when it comes time for TWRA to start making changes to the regs every year. So what changes do you want to see happen for TN next year? Me I'd like too see Morgan Co moved to Unit A..That may be wishing for alot..But I can wish. I would like for TWRA to trap all the hogs off the places i hunt and moved to wherever they think they need to be...
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#1728277 - 01/16/10 05:27 AM
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Its kind of disheartening to see that we are still killing over 50% yearling bucks in Region 4. How does this % stack up with years past BGG?
Winchester, The data I posted from Region IV was a total from 2005-2009. If you look soley at 2009, the age data looks like the following: 1-1/2: 45% 2-1/2: 36% 3-1/2: 17% 4-1/2: 2% Considering Region IV is supposed to be our 'worst' region (according to some), we're very happy with those numbers.
Those numbers aren't that bad, if the 2.5 year harvest was a little higher it would be fine IMO. I would have to think if you placed the EHD deaths back into the herd this year, then the 2.5 % would be higher.
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#1728279 - 01/16/10 05:50 AM
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BigGameGuy,
Thanks for the info, and yes another lesson learned. In my defense, I think I did the right thing on the property considering the age of the BUCKS, LOL!! How can you win when people are still killing 45% 1-1/2 year old deer?
Thanks Again....
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THE RICHEST VALUES OF WILDERNESS LIE NOT IN THE DAYS OF DANIEL BOONE NOR EVEN IN THE PRESENT. BUT IN THE FUTURE--LEOPOLD
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#1728349 - 01/16/10 07:46 AM
Re: What kind of change?
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How is the age sampling done?Random at check stations I guess?Sure cant tell age thru internet check.
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#1728647 - 01/16/10 12:56 PM
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open bow season the 1st sat in sept.
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#1729304 - 01/16/10 08:09 PM
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For me to make all changes from now on!
And tn.season to be the same as al.
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