#1719688 - 01/11/10 12:58 PM
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TC4ever
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That is why I made my comment in the other thread! My son and I have agresively been hunting does on our prop. for three or four years now. Their travel patterns\times of travel have changed dramatically since we first started this!
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#1719695 - 01/11/10 01:01 PM
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That is why I made my comment in the other thread! My son and I have agresively been hunting does on our prop. for three or four years now. Their travel patterns\times of travel have changed dramatically since we first started this!
And that will only continue. We found it took 3-4 years of intensive harvest to really alter doe patterns dramatically.
Then we had to alter our hunting locations/style to adjust to their new patterns. It is a constant battle, with the deer usually one step ahead of us.
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#1719709 - 01/11/10 01:07 PM
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The two of us killed 9 on our 80 acres this year. One interesting thing I have noticed is that the does seem to be starting to feel safer close to our house. Over the last two years the sightings have risen quite extensively of does feeding right alongside our house. I wonder: out our back door 25' it is a very steep grade{southeast facing} up for about 150 yards. While hiking it around Christmas in the snow I found multiple beds, they{deer} could basically be watching us head out to hunt from most any of these beds!
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#1719852 - 01/11/10 03:09 PM
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The two of us killed 9 on our 80 acres this year. One interesting thing I have noticed is that the does seem to be starting to feel safer close to our house. Over the last two years the sightings have risen quite extensively of does feeding right alongside our house. I wonder: out our back door 25' it is a very steep grade{southeast facing} up for about 150 yards. While hiking it around Christmas in the snow I found multiple beds, they{deer} could basically be watching us head out to hunt from most any of these beds!
Deer will rapidly determine where they are and where thy are not safe from hunting, and will concentrate their activities in the areas they are safe.
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#1719917 - 01/11/10 03:44 PM
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You know, I've had several different theories on killing does over the years. I had a farmer tell me once, "if you want more bull calves, you don't get rid of your cows" and that was my thought on killing does. At the time, there was no reason to kill does. My opinion changed on shooting does several years later when the deer population exploded in my area in Mid TN. I shot a few. I think a lot of hunters in my area took the 3 does per day limit literally. I firmly believe too many does were killed in my area. Couple that with the EHD outbreak, deer numbers are not what they were 7 or 8 years ago. Based on what I'm seeing now, I'm back to the cow theory. I now believe killing does should be determined by each individual hunters common judgement. You know better than anyone what the deer numbers are on your property or lease. Me personally, I have no reason to kill does in the places I hunt. You, on the other hand, may need to take several. I just think it's a blanket statement to say "we do" or "we don't need to kill does".
deer are not cows.....they useally have 2 or more fawns a year....cows most of the time only have a calf every 13-14 months.....and they are wild animals.....the cow theroy is garbage....people wonder how come they dont have many big bucks....their is only so much food...when you see 25-30 does in one food plot...theirs a problem.....but people still are againast shooting does>>>but why you have to thin down the herd...but in one way deer are like cows...you have to get rid of a few every now and again to keep the pasture healthy and weed out the ones that are to old to breed..just like deer>
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#1719997 - 01/11/10 04:31 PM
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deer are not cows.....they useally have 2 or more fawns a year....cows most of the time only have a calf every 13-14 months.....and they are wild animals.....the cow theroy is garbage....people wonder how come they dont have many big bucks....their is only so much food...when you see 25-30 does in one food plot...theirs a problem.....but people still are againast shooting does>>>but why you have to thin down the herd...but in one way deer are like cows...you have to get rid of a few every now and again to keep the pasture healthy and weed out the ones that are to old to breed..just like deer>
You can't make up your mind on the cow theory can you. A couple more sentences and you would have been its number 1 advocate.
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#1720105 - 01/11/10 05:19 PM
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Interesting. I don't shoot does and wouldn't unless I was starving. But one of my parents farms borders a huge thick block of woods that received very light hunting pressure- about 1000 acre block in unit L. Every day there are 8-30 does in the food plot behind their house. I don't really hunt it but I have shot a mature buck or 2 from their yard, that come in november chasin does. The does are virtually tame and won't pay any attention to you as long as you stay in the yard. I wonder how it would change if I ever shot one. Doesn't matter because I never will.
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#1720160 - 01/11/10 05:42 PM
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Devin2009
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deer are not cows.....they useally have 2 or more fawns a year....cows most of the time only have a calf every 13-14 months.....and they are wild animals.....the cow theroy is garbage....people wonder how come they dont have many big bucks....their is only so much food...when you see 25-30 does in one food plot...theirs a problem.....but people still are againast shooting does>>>but why you have to thin down the herd...but in one way deer are like cows...you have to get rid of a few every now and again to keep the pasture healthy and weed out the ones that are to old to breed..just like deer> You can't make up your mind on the cow theory can you.  A couple more sentences and you would have been its number 1 advocate.
bottom line thats dumb>>>>>>>you can't fence in deer...they reproduce twice as much...and their are by far more than cows....................
now we can drag this threw the mud...it can get ugly..and the name calling will start...i dont wont that...most people would agree that "your theroy"is not a very smart idea......but hey if it works for you then go for it......but deer are in no way shape or form like cow...never have never will....
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#1720184 - 01/11/10 06:04 PM
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Yodel Dog
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deer are not cows.....they useally have 2 or more fawns a year....cows most of the time only have a calf every 13-14 months.....and they are wild animals.....the cow theroy is garbage....people wonder how come they dont have many big bucks....their is only so much food...when you see 25-30 does in one food plot...theirs a problem.....but people still are againast shooting does>>>but why you have to thin down the herd...but in one way deer are like cows...you have to get rid of a few every now and again to keep the pasture healthy and weed out the ones that are to old to breed..just like deer> You can't make up your mind on the cow theory can you.  A couple more sentences and you would have been its number 1 advocate. bottom line thats dumb>>>>>>>you can't fence in deer...they reproduce twice as much...and their are by far more than cows.................... now we can drag this threw the mud...it can get ugly..and the name calling will start...i dont wont that...most people would agree that "your theroy"is not a very smart idea......but hey if it works for you then go for it......but deer are in no way shape or form like cow...never have never will.... good day
I won't take this any further. I feel guilty arguing with a man that can't spell THEORY. Peace out, Theroy.
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#1720192 - 01/11/10 06:09 PM
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Devin2009
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down where i come from thats how you spells it......and i wont take this any futher.....i also feel quilty arguing with a man that thinks cows are like deer.Now who feels dumb??? i might not can spell but i now what animals are...i learned that when i was 2........peace out!
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