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#1716115 - 01/09/10 09:39 AM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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If you had feral hogs on chaney lake you would think differently on the baiting issue,unless you want the hogs to run the deer off of chaney.
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#1716132 - 01/09/10 09:46 AM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: BigGameGuy]
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In my opinion, both should be illegal.
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#1716188 - 01/09/10 10:34 AM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: Yodel Dog]
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 Originally Posted By: Yodel Dog
I don't care one way or the other but I do hope it gets legalized for one simple reason: to show these people it ain't shootin' fish in a barrel.
Particularly when white oak acorns are abundant. IMO the deer prefer the acorns to corn, anyway.
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#1716201 - 01/09/10 10:43 AM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: Bottom Hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
Too many hunters owe their success to feeding and even baiting.

I'd like to bring them down to hunt the Hatchie Bottoms with me and the Chaney Lake bunch and let them see what hunting IS all about.

IMO.........Hunting is using your skill and knowledge to place yourself in a animal's natural daily patterns and successfully harvest that animal.....

Drawing deer to you and holding them there is not hunting.....IMO.

With that being said, feeders don't necessarily draw deer to you like you may think. Only the deer using your area anyway will benefit. Unless food is so scarce that deer have to travel long distances to survive, they won't travel too far just to visit a feeder, IMO.

Hunting the Hatchie Bottoms (the deep Bottoms and not the agricultural fields along the edges)is a pleasure and a true hunting experience...IMO.

I feel sad that not everyone can experience it......I feel that most here might quit deer hunting if they had to hunt like we do on Chaney Lake simply because so many here want baiting to be legal..........

Not a bash, but more an opinion based on all the pro-baiters on here....

Bh
To me, its comparable to you telling me that I can't watch soccer on tv in my home, because you don't like it. AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC GOOD IS NOT HARMED, I should be able to do whatever I please on my own property. The baiting is not really the point. Its "you", figuratively, minding my business. In my setup, I could bait till hell freezes over, and no one would ever know the difference, but believe it or not, I have always operated within the framework of the law. Even when, IMO, the law is stupid.
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#1716265 - 01/09/10 11:50 AM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: huntinman]
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 Originally Posted By: huntinman
On another note....How many will be supplemental feeding after the season is over?


I will and always will. Before and after season. I've said it once and I'll say it again...

We will never agree on this topic but IMO I would love to bait. But the subject is not about should we or should we not. The topic should be choice.....We all have the right to disagree but to take a choice from me is flat wrong. The given hunter should have the right to choose...Don't you think? You make the choice to bait or not.... Now go ahead and slam me....
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#1716280 - 01/09/10 12:00 PM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: 4onaside]
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I have a mixed opinion on this subject. From a population control stand point it may be a good thing especially in the late gun season. However the article(s) that Big game guy posted (I only read the first one) show evidence to the contrary in that deer may go nocturnal with bait present.

However, from a skill stand point I feel it should remain illegal. People always seem to want to do things the easy/lazy way. Whatever, happened to good ole fashioned woodsman-ship. Going out before to season scouting, placing stands, and then continuously scouting throughout the season so you can adjust to the deer as they change their movement patterns.
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#1716301 - 01/09/10 12:25 PM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: 4onaside]
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: Bottom Hunter
Too many hunters owe their success to feeding and even baiting.

I'd like to bring them down to hunt the Hatchie Bottoms with me and the Chaney Lake bunch and let them see what hunting IS all about.

IMO.........Hunting is using your skill and knowledge to place yourself in a animal's natural daily patterns and successfully harvest that animal.....

Drawing deer to you and holding them there is not hunting.....IMO.

With that being said, feeders don't necessarily draw deer to you like you may think. Only the deer using your area anyway will benefit. Unless food is so scarce that deer have to travel long distances to survive, they won't travel too far just to visit a feeder, IMO.

Hunting the Hatchie Bottoms (the deep Bottoms and not the agricultural fields along the edges)is a pleasure and a true hunting experience...IMO.

I feel sad that not everyone can experience it......I feel that most here might quit deer hunting if they had to hunt like we do on Chaney Lake simply because so many here want baiting to be legal..........

Not a bash, but more an opinion based on all the pro-baiters on here....

Bh
To me, its comparable to you telling me that I can't watch soccer on tv in my home, because you don't like it. AS LONG AS THE PUBLIC GOOD IS NOT HARMED, I should be able to do whatever I please on my own property. The baiting is not really the point. Its "you", figuratively, minding my business. In my setup, I could bait till hell freezes over, and no one would ever know the difference, but believe it or not, I have always operated within the framework of the law. Even when, IMO, the law is stupid.


your point is taken ......the thing is (in reference to the soccer game) you will be on your property watching YOUR tv , so yes, you should be allowed to watch anything that you want...except some people even want to prevent that (FCC).

When you bait, you are baiting living creatures that even though they may be on your land or pass by on your land, YOU do not own them.......

Why do we have game laws.???.......we have SO MANY deer......!

Well, maybe we should look back when the deer and other creatures (buffalo) were almost killed out.

Will baiting hurt the common good (public), maybe not , but maybe so in the long run. First, if baiting begins to be the norm, then your kids and your grandkids may never learn how to hunt...just bait and sit......

That is my fear and a complete shame , IMO........but why should YOU care as long as YOU get to shoot deer....notice I said SHOOT and not HUNT!!

SAD and just another example of entitlement........I can't be successfully without baiting so I want baiting to be legal....I deserve to kill a deer because I bought a license. I don't want to do the work, but want the same reward as everyone else that did the work......

are you a democrat?????

hahahahahahaha

truly sad...

BH
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#1716336 - 01/09/10 01:15 PM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: HotshaftZ7]
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Bottom Hunter,

I normally agree with you on most topics. I'm not trying to start something here but to make people realize one thing:
FREEDOM OF CHOICE...
I don't care if someone wants to hunt over bait or not..there choice. The main point is that we need to stop the people who keep taking away our rights to choose.
I like you, spend alot of time in the woods. Just because the season is over with doesn't mean it ends. For me, it just starts.
I scout all year and spend more time in the woods than the average hunter. Again, we have the right to disagee but we at least have the right. Why can't we have the right to choose? If they legalize it so be it. Either hunt over it or not who cares.
For those who will break the law will and those of us who don't will not. To me very simple. I spend alot of money in the off season with feeding high protein feed for the deer. Why? simple my way of putting something back...I take, I put back. Believe me, here the deer need the supplement.
Okay, I've said my peace but again you still have my respect but I don't agree with not feeding or baiting deer.

By the way I didn't kill one deer near an empty feeder all season. I don't even hunt near them. I perfer to hunt signs.
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#1716362 - 01/09/10 01:49 PM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: Double-D-Team]
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Bottom Hunter, that has to be one of the most condescending posts that I have seen on here in a while. You apparently presume that whomever does things some way other than what you like or thinks different than you is somehow not a hunter but a shooter. I have a 36 year old son who was raised by me to hunt, not to shoot, fellow, but to hunt. And he is [censored] good at what he does, hunts hard, and killed two rack bucks this season on us by hunting the thick edges where the bucks hang out. I personally have not killed a deer on us in probably 10 years, by my choosing. I don't shoot spikes, forks, or does, but if you do, then that's fine with me because THAT'S YOUR CHOICE. Apparently that point is something that you have a problem dealing with. If someone has a different approach than yours, then they are somehow less of a hunter but just a "shooter". That is "truly sad...". And no I am not a democrat. Are you a totalitarian?
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#1716386 - 01/09/10 02:17 PM Re: Baiting/ BSK or Bowriter or anyone [Re: trealtree]
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Here we go.lol
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