#1714166 - 01/08/10 08:27 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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Good stuff BGG.
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#1714180 - 01/08/10 08:37 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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Does anybody think the economy was a factor in harvest figures as of now? I know it sure seems harder for me to make as many trips to west Tn than in the past!! What do you guys think?
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#1714186 - 01/08/10 08:40 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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I think the deer numbers have been down for several yrs. My deer sightings have dropped each year since 06. I wish they would reduce doe harvest opportunities somewhat.
Thats been my experiance on one of the places I hunt in unit B,...The mast has not hit in the last three seasons and the lower deer sightings/travel patterns seem to reflect with that. Particularly the does..This will be the second year in a row that I have passed up the opportunity to kill any does even tho I have had two special season quota permits both years...There is very little hunting pressure around the land I hunt either... aslo,..I noticed no effects from EHD in sevier cnty either...
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#1714194 - 01/08/10 08:44 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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At our place (2100 acres) in SW Unit L, doe sightings (visual & cameras) are both down, but buck sightings are way up over recent years. I've probably seen 30+ different bucks this year.
Harvest Data Past 5 Yrs:
2005 - 38 does & 7 bucks
2006 - 26 does & 7 bucks
2007 - 26 does & 14 bucks (EHD Hit)
2008 - 4 does & 6 bucks
2009 - 11 does & 8 bucks so far
We have a larger percentage of 2-1/2 yr. old bucks than ever before.
One thing that does concern me is that out of the 11 does so far this year, only 1 was lactating. Fawn sightings are down as well.
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#1714197 - 01/08/10 08:46 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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tndrbstr
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Does anybody think the economy was a factor in harvest figures as of now? I know it sure seems harder for me to make as many trips to west Tn than in the past!! What do you guys think? good point
I would say that has had a definate impact on it. To what degree would be hard to say...
I wonder if there is way to crosss referance the "by county kills" agains the succesfull hunters county of residence to see how many deer are being takin by locals as opposed to transieant hunters..... 
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#1714198 - 01/08/10 08:46 AM
Re: Statewide Kill Down.........
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The economy played a major factor. Unfortunately, we'll never know how much.
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#1714202 - 01/08/10 08:47 AM
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This actually appears to be the third year in a row that total harvest #'s are down. I have mentioned/asked about this a couple times, but there seems to be little to no concern so I take it as no big deal. I know 2007 had a big affect, but im leaning toward our herd may have simply topped out in 2006 and are now leveling off. We had too many deer (and probably still do) in some places anyway and ma nature took care of it.
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#1714218 - 01/08/10 08:56 AM
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Deer numbers are definetly down on my secondary farm. But that's intentional... we've been hammering the stew out of the does for 5 years straight in an attempt to leave more browse for the bucks. We've got a great age structure on that farm (every buck I saw this year was at least 2.5 yrs old). IIRC, last year we took 6 or 7 does off the main 40acre hunting/ browse area (total farm 900 acres, though), this year another 5 does. That's following 5 years of intense doe harvest. Last year, I saw 25 different does/ fawns on opening morning of ML, but this year I could only identify 9 adult does using this area.
Funny thing, it still hasn't helped antler quality one bit, though. Here's a bachelor group. The deer in the foreground is 2.5, the middle buck is 3.5, and the buck in the background is 4.5 (and only a mainframe 6)
But speaking of statewide harvest, we're talking about a few percent decrease, which isn't really significant. (completely different from the 20% decline in the turkey harvest from the peak several years ago- I just had to get in my little snipe against the statewide turkey management  )
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#1714221 - 01/08/10 08:57 AM
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Not only do hunters keep things in check but so does Mother Nature. Winchester is right on the money. But for me this year, I've seen more does that ever and yes, we haven't been effected by EHD either. I really like what I've seen, alot of up and comers in a year or two. But it could all change real quick as well.
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#1714223 - 01/08/10 08:57 AM
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Well, as much as I love seeing and killing deer when I hunt, I wouldn't be dissapointed IF decreased kill numbers translated in to decreased population for Unit L.
At or below carrying capacity is a good thing.
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