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#1713320 - 01/07/10 05:39 PM Statewide Kill Down.........
RonS
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With the total harvest being down this year across most of the state, is there any chance the TWRA makes any changes in the limits for next season? Like reducing the number of doe tags or eliminating some of the doe quota hunts???

Here in White county we have had doe quota hunts the past 3 or 4 years for the first time ever. This year it seems everyone I talk to says the same thing, their not seeing near as many does this year...
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#1713334 - 01/07/10 05:47 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: RonS]
Howa
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 Originally Posted By: RonS

we have had doe quota hunts the past 3 or 4 years for the first time ever. This year it seems everyone I talk to says the same thing, their not seeing near as many does this year...


Maybe the REASON you're not seeing does is BECAUSE they've been shot at for past 3 or 4 years for the 1'st time ever. It doesn't take them long to figure it out.
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#1713342 - 01/07/10 05:51 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: Howa]
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Ron, i hunt near you and #s are down here too even though our doe quotas have been reduced. EHD is the biggest factor IMO.
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#1713350 - 01/07/10 05:56 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: Tree Tramp]
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there is only a very slight reduction. Nothing needs to be changed.
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#1713381 - 01/07/10 06:09 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
Twitch
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I agree with Hillbilly.....Harvest might be down slightly, but I don't see any changes for next season.
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#1713389 - 01/07/10 06:11 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: Twitch]
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#1713404 - 01/07/10 06:16 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: titansbuck]
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BSK said this years ago, when they started Area L: the does will very quickly become much harder to find in the daytime, even though they are still there.

I hadn't seen many does while I was hunting, compared to other years, but my trail cams are picking up 3 to 7 in a group after dark. And I've seen more and heavier worn down trails than in past years.

Pardon the grammar, but it's too tough to write "...more heavily worn-down trails". Ouch! See?
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#1713417 - 01/07/10 06:24 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: jakeway]
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Good points guys!
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#1713430 - 01/07/10 06:29 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: RonS]
BSK
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 Originally Posted By: RonS
With the total harvest being down this year across most of the state...


One of the problems is, many states across the Eastern U.S. are reporting lower than normal kills. This suggests part of this year's lower kill in TN was probably a region-wide environmental factor.

We had...

1) ...unseasonably warm weather during the peak of the rut in Middle TN, greatly reducing harvest opportunities just when the majority of hunters are in the woods.

2) ...a lower deer density in those parts of the state hit hardest by EHD in '07.

3) ...a bumper acorn crop. Bumper acorn crops are notorious for reducing statewide harvests as deer don't have to travel as far or as often to feed, reducing their susceptibility to harvest.

I believe these three factors combined played a big role in our harvests, as well as whatever caused low deer harvests in much of the Eastern U.S. this year.
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#1713437 - 01/07/10 06:33 PM Re: Statewide Kill Down......... [Re: Howa]
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 Originally Posted By: Howa
 Originally Posted By: RonS

we have had doe quota hunts the past 3 or 4 years for the first time ever. This year it seems everyone I talk to says the same thing, their not seeing near as many does this year...


Maybe the REASON you're not seeing does is BECAUSE they've been shot at for past 3 or 4 years for the 1'st time ever. It doesn't take them long to figure it out.


Exactly Howa. I see it every time a county is moved to Unit L. For the first two or three years, hunters are taking full advantage, banging away at does. But about year 4, I know exactly what I'm going to hear, "Where have all the deer gone? We've shot them all because of the liberal limits!" First, the density probably IS down. THAT'S THE POINT OF UNIT L! Second, once you start shooting at does that previously had not been under serious harvest pressure, and they learn the same trick bucks do--to live, go nocturnal.
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