#1711564 - 01/06/10 09:28 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Wes Parrish
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I am lucky to see firsthand this experiment.
Very interesting to say the least, although I'm not a fan of high fences.
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#1711662 - 01/06/10 10:07 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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102- Might interest you to know, Jim Barnhart developed ASAT camo along with Stan Star. Jim was never a particularly good hunter but he was a tremendous researcher. He was a bit like BSK in many ways. And I mean that in a good way. Jim would rather try and figure out why a deer did something than shoot him. I never knew him to shoot a gun, don't even think he owned one but I saw shoot a lot quail with a bow.
I spent many hours in the woods with him and even hired for a couple years. We had some tremendous debates about deer vision and vocalization. I hated it when he went around the bend. His work on deer vision was so far ahead of the pack it was ridiculous. All the the things he said are now standard and the camo patterns he developed have now been copied. The 3-D suit everybody is selling was his invention 20 years ago.
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#1711732 - 01/06/10 10:50 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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4onaside
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I believe that pretty well proves what you and I and BSK and BGG have been saying for several years. You forgot Sam Kinison.
And, lighten up RAFI. richmanbbq may be a jerk, and I know that I am, but saying something light doesn't make us one.
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#1711779 - 01/06/10 11:52 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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CopperHead77
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The 3-D suit everybody is selling was his invention 20 years ago. And I've got an original, 1st edition one (bought in '91 or '92, I believe) in ASAT camo. That suit has been worn every turkey season since, then, several whitetail bow seasons and the past 5 elk seasons and it's almost as good as it was new. I bet if I bought one today, it would last 6 months at the most. Wow, this thread has just about covered everything 
I got one of the originals also,it's just the top but still in great condition.
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#1711810 - 01/07/10 04:36 AM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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102
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WELL said Wes Parish,
And I agree. I am not really making my statement based on anything but an overall average of hunters I've spoken to. And by far, MOST had not targeted A SPECIFIC buck.
But point well made. In fact, I don't think I have ever thought of it quite like that. There are specific things one does when one wants to kill mature deer. I look for patterns in weather and feeding trends. Also a specific time of year and specific MATURE deer hiding/travel places. And ESPECIALLY doe areas during the rut. So, like pass-thru says...just because...(he makes a good point)
On the other hand, take a few thousand hi powered RIFLE hunters and sprinkle them over public land in mid to late November (rather rutty), you get my meaning.
Hunting for any available mature buck is EXTREMELY difficult. CONSISTENTLY killing a SPECIFIC, known, "target" mature buck, on public land, with any regularity, is almost impossible. Both take luck AND skill to accomplish.
John, whatever happened to him? I enjoyed his teachings. In fact. every time the sun hits my glass rims or temples, I think of him. (long story)
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Edited by 102 (01/07/10 04:43 AM)
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#1711954 - 01/07/10 06:48 AM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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bowriter
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102, I'm not sure what happened. He got in bad shape, got divorced and then just vanished. Smartest man when it comes to deer vision I ever met. I don't know of anyone who knows where he is or what happened. BTW he was a pretty dang good football player, too.
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#1712154 - 01/07/10 08:34 AM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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richmanbarbeque
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I am of the opinion, that the VAST MAJORITY of MATURE deer, killed on public land (and in this I include private land that is small in size ((less than 3000 acres depending on terrain)), are killed by accident. I believe that MOST times, the hunter had NO IDEA that buck existed and had not seen it before.
THe exception is probably that the hunter may have seen it on trail cam.
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Just because I didn't know a particular deer is there, does not mean he was killed on accident.....public or private land.
I agree 100% Pass-thru.
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#1712174 - 01/07/10 08:44 AM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I believe that pretty well proves what you and I and BSK and BGG have been saying for several years. You forgot Sam Kinison. wow way to be a jerk and run down a good post.
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