#1710833 - 01/06/10 04:07 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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sounds cool,would love to see it
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#1710898 - 01/06/10 04:32 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I remeber that. many years ago and it was square mile fenced area.
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#1711169 - 01/06/10 06:59 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I was really fascinated by that study, John. It was before I ever killed a deer and I thought it was astounding that an ani,al could evade hunters like that. I remember meeting a guy a few years later who taught a Nat'l Bowhunter Education course. I think his name was Jim Barnhart or something like that. He was the first person I ever met who actually could kill deer on purpose with a bow. He told me about a few other things deer would do when thay knew thay were being hunted. I was amazed and somewhat in dis-belief. Figuring he was probably exagerating.
A few years later, things began to pile up for my own personal experiences. And I learned that deer hunting had MANY levels.
To name a few:
There is your everyday meat and potato hunter.
Then there is your meat hunter.
Then there is your buck hunter.
Then there is your MATURE buck hunter...an ENTIRELY different animal.
I am of the opinion, that the VAST MAJORITY of MATURE deer, killed on public land (and in this I include private land that is small in size ((less than 3000 acres depending on terrain)), are killed by accident. I believe that MOST times, the hunter had NO IDEA that buck existed and had not seen it before.
THe exception is probably that the hunter may have seen it on trail cam.
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#1711258 - 01/06/10 07:24 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Nice read , thanks for sharing.
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#1711332 - 01/06/10 07:46 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I am of the opinion, that the VAST MAJORITY of MATURE deer, killed on public land (and in this I include private land that is small in size ((less than 3000 acres depending on terrain)), are killed by accident. I believe that MOST times, the hunter had NO IDEA that buck existed and had not seen it before.
THe exception is probably that the hunter may have seen it on trail cam.
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Just because I didn't know a particular deer is there, does not mean he was killed on accident.....public or private land.
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#1711437 - 01/06/10 08:35 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I believe that pretty well proves what you and I and BSK and BGG have been saying for several years.
You forgot Sam Kinison.
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#1711444 - 01/06/10 08:38 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I believe that pretty well proves what you and I and BSK and BGG have been saying for several years. You forgot Sam Kinison.
wow way to be a jerk and run down a good post.
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#1711465 - 01/06/10 08:50 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I think this would be a blast to keep up with the results of this property. Your lucky to hunt it even for a learning experience.
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#1711507 - 01/06/10 09:11 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Amen Rich, I am lucky to see firsthand this experiment.
He and I are pretty good friends, same Sunday school class at church. His 5yr old daughter and my 5 yr old son are buddies as well (hopefully he'll marry her someday  )
I just hope he lets me fish his 2 yr old 17 ac lake on the property... he's catching 2 yr old F1 hybrid largemouths weighing 7-8 lbs already!!!!
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#1711556 - 01/06/10 09:26 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I am of the opinion, that the VAST MAJORITY of MATURE deer, killed on public land . . . . . are killed by accident.
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There are two ways you can look at this, and the way Pass-Thru is looking is how I'm looking.
It may be that the vast majority of mature bucks are killed "by accident" simply because the vast majority of deer hunters are not specifically mature buck hunters.
On the other hand, the vast majority of mature bucks killed by mature buck hunters are NOT by accident. It is no accident that we mature buck hunters repeatedly pass up younger bucks until an older buck comes along. I've killed several mature bucks on public lands, most after having passed up 2 1/2 & 3 1/2-yr-old bucks that few people would consider passing (especially on public land), and most after hunting all day, sometimes having a few minutes or an hour's break only to change stand locations in mid-day.
Whether I've previously seen a particular mature buck or not, I don't consider it an accident when I kill him. Rather, it's the result of much hard hunting, specifically for the purpose of taking a mature buck, known or unknown. But having said that, I am usually hunting for a specific mature buck, it's just that I'm willing to take any other mature buck in the process.
And in many circumstances I've even found it easier to kill a mature buck on some public lands than some private lands, simply because there is often less competition from other true mature buck hunters on public land.
Look at it this way.
Say you have a 5,000-acre WMA that's under a fair amount of hunting pressure, but you're the only real mature buck hunter that's hunting on it. You have little competition for any mature buck on the area, and all you need is one. But then consider the 5,000-acre private hunting club where there's 40 members and 10 of them are very accomplished mature buck hunters. The private land may have to grow 10 times more mature bucks just to give me the same opportunity I might have on a 5,000-acre public WMA. So I enjoy doing my mature buck hunting on both public & private lands.
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