#1710581 - 01/06/10 01:04 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Sounds interesting, keep us posted as to how it works out for him. Sounds like he is all in with the effort and money!
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#1710603 - 01/06/10 01:23 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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qdma estimates some parts of tn with more than 45 deer per sq mile. dont know if that is accurate but it aint high fenced and they thrive.
Your friend must have some seriously deep pockets.  It is hard for me to imagine that many deer in less than 1 square mile of area. What is that, like 30 deer per 7/8 square mile? And that is just what you saw or know of. Wow!!! (I am referring to the numbers before they harvested the 24 this season.) What does that do to herd health I wonder? I am not trying to argue with you or belittle his operation, I am just curious about this kind of stuff. pkv
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#1710614 - 01/06/10 01:31 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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As a libertarian and knowing how Texas deer "sales" go I would think the "black market" for high grade bucks must be an interesting one.
Yup, he owned a buck in Texas that scored over 200" as a 2 yr old... he was thinking about doing a 'midnight run', but decided jail time wasn't worth it, so he sold off the buck.
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#1710621 - 01/06/10 01:39 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Baxter83
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WOW! I wouldn't have enjoyed that one little bit, but to each his own.
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#1710625 - 01/06/10 01:41 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Your friend must have some seriously deep pockets. It is hard for me to imagine that many deer in less than 1 square mile of area. What is that, like 30 deer per 7/8 square mile? And that is just what you saw or know of. Wow!!! (I am referring to the numbers before they harvested the 24 this season.) What does that do to herd health I wonder? I am not trying to argue with you or belittle his operation, I am just curious about this kind of stuff. pkv
I wouldn't be unreasonable to expect carrying capacity around 50 deer in the enclosure prehunt (excluding fawns), so long as rainfall is reasonable. Herd health has never been a problem until this year, when we experienced absolutely no rainfall whatsoever during the month of June and August. Early signs of overbrowsing developed, so he's dropping the herd to 35 animals for next year. That's one of the big reasons for the push to remove all the bucks 8 pts or less this season.
The enclosure (as are all in Mississippi) is monitored by a MDWFP biologist to ensure that the deer are healthy.
It's rather funny, however...
I know another acquaintence who has 600 acres in a high fence close to the MS river. His fence went up 6 years ago, and his philosophy has been to harvest as many does as possible the past 6 years without killing any bucks until last year. As a consequence, he as around a 2-3 buck:doe ratio and numerous 6.5 yr old bucks running around on the property. But since last year, they've starting picking off the top end bucks last year and this year (including a 170" mainframe 10). But the fully mature 6 ptrs are getting passed up.
In other words, one highfence property will be continually improving genetics, while the other will be continually degrading antler genetics. But the difference in soil may still keep the property close to the River with better overall gross scores.
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#1710733 - 01/06/10 03:04 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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I believe that pretty well proves what you and I and BSK and BGG have been saying for several years.
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#1710747 - 01/06/10 03:19 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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good post john
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#1710830 - 01/06/10 04:04 PM
Re: My high fence rut hunt experience
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Michigan did a study/experiment many years ago, while I was in College. It was an attempt to fence, then KILL, EVERY SINGLE deer inside this fenced area. They did stand hunts, drives, you name it. Guess what? They NEVER killed all the deer. Some simply avoided the hunters and NEVER got killed.
I forget what the name of the study is, but it proved a point I'll never forget. Mature bucks/does may be ABSOLUTELY un-seen. But it does not mean they are not there.
Most times, mature deer know you are hunting them LONG before you EVER know they are there.
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