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#1710400 - 01/06/10 11:26 AM Re: Water? [Re: Mr.Bro]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
Deer need water every day. Lots of land has ponds and sinkholes that hold water.All those are frozen now.Its a great idea to hunt running water now.


Deer get the vast majority of their water needs from the plants they eat.
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#1710493 - 01/06/10 12:18 PM Re: Water? [Re: BSK]
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 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
Deer need water every day. Lots of land has ponds and sinkholes that hold water.All those are frozen now.Its a great idea to hunt running water now.


Deer get the vast majority of their water needs from the plants they eat.
Does this need get meet as well during really cold spells like now or in winter as well?
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#1710543 - 01/06/10 12:39 PM Re: Water? [Re: A.K.A.]
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Deer like water, but they can get what they need most times without actually watering every single day.
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#1710605 - 01/06/10 01:24 PM Re: Water? [Re: Winchester]
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OK This is from BigGameGuy on the TWRA Q's forum.

"Although their metabolism may increase in bitter cold weather , it would probably be an insignificant increase in the amount of water they would need to consume to maintain that metabolism. In other words, I doubt hunting a water source would prove to be more productive than at any other time of year. Also, there is probably more available water on the plants they consume due to the frost and/or snow so I imagine water sources would be even less necessary."
That blows my whole strategy out of the water (no pun intended!).
Any questions?
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#1710658 - 01/06/10 02:03 PM Re: Water? [Re: A.K.A.]
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WQell he may be the big game guy but i think that is hog wash.No way a deer can get his daily requirements for water through the frost on plants he eats.Snow maybe,frost never.

1 of my farms is more than a 1/2 mile from nearest water hole.I put in water hole and see the same deer come in daily and drink for 3-5 minutes every day.No way they can get that much water from frost.
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#1711119 - 01/06/10 06:32 PM Re: Water? [Re: A.K.A.]
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 Originally Posted By: Rusty Shakelford
 Originally Posted By: BSK
 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
Deer need water every day. Lots of land has ponds and sinkholes that hold water.All those are frozen now.Its a great idea to hunt running water now.


Deer get the vast majority of their water needs from the plants they eat.
Does this need get meet as well during really cold spells like now or in winter as well?


I've seen properties with plenty of deer and there is no running water on these properties or anywhere nearby. Deer will find any tiny amount of standing water, even rain-water or melted snow in curled leaves.
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#1711123 - 01/06/10 06:35 PM Re: Water? [Re: Mr.Bro]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
WQell he may be the big game guy but i think that is hog wash.No way a deer can get his daily requirements for water through the frost on plants he eats.Snow maybe,frost never.

1 of my farms is more than a 1/2 mile from nearest water hole.I put in water hole and see the same deer come in daily and drink for 3-5 minutes every day.No way they can get that much water from frost.


Deer can do just fine with no standing water at all (no ponds, no creeks etc.) They can always find a mud hole or again, utilize what they get internally from plants.

Deer exist even in near desert environments, with no standing water for miles.

Now if you create a water hole, they will certainly use it, but they don't require it to survive.
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#1711232 - 01/06/10 07:16 PM Re: Water? [Re: BSK]
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Something tells me I am siding with BSK on this one! ;\)
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#1711407 - 01/06/10 08:20 PM Re: Water? [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
they get water from frost


Not enough.When everythings been frozen for days deer dont get water from frozen mud either.I still say hunting running water now is a good idea.
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#1711426 - 01/06/10 08:28 PM Re: Water? [Re: Mr.Bro]
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 Originally Posted By: Mr.Bro
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they get water from frost


Not enough.When everythings been frozen for days deer dont get water from frozen mud either.I still say hunting running water now is a good idea.



then hunt them.several of us have told you how it is but you seem to know better than all of us so go hunt your water and prove us wrong about it.

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