#1710154 - 01/06/10 08:58 AM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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CopperHead77
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I'd say 2.5.
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#1710310 - 01/06/10 10:39 AM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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graydw1
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This is what the "professional" told me. He's the Game Warden in Lincoln County.
Mr. Gray,
The third tooth of the lower jaw erupts at 2 yrs. and sheds a tri-cusped juvenile tooth. This new tooth is is a bi-cusped. Your jaw shows this has happened. If this tooth is worn to show the dentine to be wider than the enamel, the deer is 3.5 yrs. You jaw shows the dentine to be less than the enamel, so your jaw is 2.5 yrs.
Merry "Christ"mas,
Leith G. Konyndyk
And this is a pic of the deer, 200+ pounds before field dressing. Just hard to believe, to me atleast, that he was only 2.5 years old.
Thanks for all of the inputs.
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#1710364 - 01/06/10 11:02 AM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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easy45
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My guess is 2.5 looking at the jaw but it is hard to believe by the pic of the deer that it is only 2.5
Edited by easy45 (01/06/10 11:04 AM)
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#1710403 - 01/06/10 11:27 AM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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BSK
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I've seen plenty of 150 class 2 1/2 year-old bucks in KY and the Midwest.
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#1710456 - 01/06/10 12:02 PM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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Wes Parrish
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Leith is one of the more experienced "deer agers" I've met among the TWRA field officers. I'd bet he's correct with the 2 1/2.
(Also note that the most experienced person who replied on your thread, BSK, also said "2 1/2".)
I've personally killed two 125-plus 2 1/2-yr-old bucks in Tennessee, and have a good friend who killed a 135-gross 2 1/2-yr-old in TN in 2007.
What did your buck gross score?
Keep in mind 2009 may have been the most ideal antler growing conditions that have ever existed in for most of TN.
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#1710471 - 01/06/10 12:10 PM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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graydw1
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Haven't put a tape to him yet.
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#1710496 - 01/06/10 12:19 PM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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Wes Parrish
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But let us not overlook that aging deer may be more an "art" than a science, and even the best deer agers only get it right most of the time, not all of the time.
Your buck may have been 3 1/2, may have been only 2 1/2.
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#1710538 - 01/06/10 12:37 PM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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He's a very good buck for 2.5 (rack wise) anywhere in the country, he's not off the charts with body weight but again in the upper end of the class. I would suspect he may be a very late born 3.5
Very nice buck either way and congrats!
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#1710690 - 01/06/10 02:25 PM
Re: Age this jaw bone please
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The dentine level is uneven from cusp to cusp within each tooth, being wider at points, but all of the molars are showing some wear. Looking at the jawbone there is no doubt in mind that at least 3.5 and possibly older (the dentine on the 2nd cusps of both the 2nd and 3rd molar is wider than enamel). Looking at the buck itself, I feel very comfortable in my initial estimate of 4.5.
Here's something else to consider regarding "young" trophys from other states. I lived and hunted in KY for many years. Saw jawbones come out of a lot of trophy bucks. The wear patterns on teeth where I lived were signifigantly lighter than what you would expect from looking at aging charts. 2.5 year old deer consistently had slight wear on the molars and none on the premolars. We also sent a number of jawbones off to the state for aging. My budding killed a 140" 10 point. The state aged it at 2.5. There's no way it was 2.5. If you look at the jawbone, the wear could be considered light compared to charts for a 3.5. However it was quite heavy compared to normal 2.5 year olds for that area. In short, I think a lot of trophys are called 2.5 based on the jawbone that are in fact 3 or 4 years old. If I get a chance, I will most the example I just referenced.
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