#1708987 - 01/05/10 04:48 PM
Biggest lesson learned this season??
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JFields101
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With the majority of everyone's season either ending already or coming to an end, I would love to hear some of the lessons learned this year. I use this site to learn and learn and LEARN some more, so I value the posts I read on here and more than not, I try them out in the woods myself. So whether it be something you knew but forgot (and got a rude reminder) or something completely new to you share it with the others. Maybe its something thats got you stumped, and somebody can chime in. I just always find it interesting, and very valuable.
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#1708994 - 01/05/10 04:53 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Use my safety harness.
Don't worry about a pee bottle.
How to make mock scrapes.
Public land can show some good sign but may be showing more than just to you!
*great thing is I learned the first three from TNDeer members.
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#1709002 - 01/05/10 04:58 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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I was reminded not to hunt places you don't have confidence in. I hunted some new spots and the whole time I was hunting my mind was telling me I was wasting my time. I guess because deer movement was so slow for me this year, I abandoned my best stands in hopes of turning things around. I did find some productive places, but also found spots I have zero confidence in. Normally I would pack up and move, but this year made me try some crazy stuff. Looking back, I sort of feel like I wasted a season, but hopefully in the long run it will all pay off.
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#1709025 - 01/05/10 05:11 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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When my gas needle hits the first orange reserve mark on my dash indicator.....its already to late to plan on drivin to the next station....... 
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#1709026 - 01/05/10 05:11 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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not to over hunt a certain area ..tried it and it worked usually i would have bow hunted it 3-4 times a week ,but this yr hit it just 1 time with a bow then waited to go back in nov
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#1709106 - 01/05/10 05:42 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Mr.Bro
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I know this sounds crazy but i saw a pattern on deer movement that i never noticed before.
If i hunt my large farm one day and see lots of deer,don't hunt it the next day because i wont see anything.
If i hunt the same farm one day and see nothing,go the next day and see lots of deer.
Sounds crazy but it was like this all year.And i hunted 50-60 days this year and could see this pattern every time out.
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#1709112 - 01/05/10 05:44 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Lots of lessons learned for me this year, my 1st year hunting.
-Dont rely on fixed stands. Now I have a climber and I love it.
-Dont use a ML during gun season (lost a 12pt at 30' due to misfire well into gun season)
-Does are tasty. Take more than two.
-Dont overdress for the trip in. Getting sweaty before sitting still for long periods inm freezing temps sucks.
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#1709195 - 01/05/10 06:37 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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My oak flat is a HOT SPOT!
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#1709220 - 01/05/10 06:46 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Buckhunter72
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Several, here are a couple
1)My brother and I took his 8 year old on juvinile for the first time this year. It was chilly and we didn't want him to get cold, so we layered him up with enough clothes for two kids. He didn't get cold, but when the spike walked out, he had so many clothes on he coulden't see through the scope because it was so far away from his eye. Lesson learned!
2)I will never wish for a bumber white oak crop again. Got my wish this year and had a hard time with patterns. Next time I will wish for a bumber crop on one or two trees! Lesson learned!
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#1709244 - 01/05/10 06:57 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Wouldn't say I learned it more like just remembered that a trophy buck is just icing on the cake. Good times with good friends is where I truly find my enjoyment in the outdoors...........Yeah, I had my cake without icing this season but enjoyed every bite of it.
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#1709288 - 01/05/10 07:15 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Good thread.
1. When it snows, hunt the ridges that face south. They warm up better/faster, lose the snow quicker, and the deer will favor them over a snow-covered ridge that is in the shadows.
2. With a big acorn crop, after most of the crop is down, listen for the trees that are still dropping (they are also the oaks that are late dropping leaves). Deer will favor these trees...they can hear the acorns hit the ground just like I can, and they know they won't have to dig em out of the leaves.
3. Hunt every clear, cool day you can. Rest on rainy, windy days and days with a high over 55. The deer don't seem to like em any more than I do. (I knew this, but it got hammered in this year.)
4. Put the dam pull rope on the second rung of the ladder. Put the dam pull rope on the second rung of the ladder. Put the dam pull rope.....
5. Shooting at coyotes during archery season is expensive, if you shoot $10 broadheads.
6. Sometimes toms gobble more in the fall than they do in the spring.
7. Persimmon trees are not the sure-fire deal I always had them cracked up to be.
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#1709896 - 01/06/10 06:36 AM
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I learned the realities of the TN deer herd's age structure. Which trumped anything else that I picked up along the way this season.
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#1709939 - 01/06/10 07:13 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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I didn't learn anything new, but some old knowledge was reenforced. COVER IS KING, especially in high hunting pressure areas.
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#1709948 - 01/06/10 07:19 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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three things......
Don't let what other people are doing around you ruin your hunting. It took awhile for this to sink in.
Always go with your gut.
Never get down from your stand for any reason (if possible)as long as you are not leaving. I can still see his rack as he's running through the trees......
If I didn't learn something every year, I'd probably lose interest.
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#1710499 - 01/06/10 12:21 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Good topic...... No matter how many times my dad told me not to hunt food plots when we have bumper crop of acorns, I will listen from now on.......when you wake up early and get gun out of safe check and make sure you put bolt back in it after cleaning and not 80 miles from home after you climb a tree.....do not miss muzzy season next year if you want a deer....never leave camp without TP......
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#1710513 - 01/06/10 12:27 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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When the hunting is hot go solid til it cools off. You have about a week window dont miss it.
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#1710521 - 01/06/10 12:33 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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When you have a good deer found, go ahead and kill him while the getting is good, saving one for later doesnt always work out!
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#1710541 - 01/06/10 12:37 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Don't leave deer to find deer and don't leave home without your rifle (lucky it was only a 15 minute drive back home).
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#1710542 - 01/06/10 12:38 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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I learned that people love to pull the trigger on the farms around me
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#1710557 - 01/06/10 12:45 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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SAR Swimmer
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I know this sounds crazy but i saw a pattern on deer movement that i never noticed before.
If i hunt my large farm one day and see lots of deer,don't hunt it the next day because i wont see anything.
If i hunt the same farm one day and see nothing,go the next day and see lots of deer.
Sounds crazy but it was like this all year.And i hunted 50-60 days this year and could see this pattern every time out.
Funny because I had a farm to hunt one time and I swear that they were on a 3 day rotation. I would see deer one day and then not see deer for 2 days. This was before trail cameras though, so it could have just been coincidence.
I believe that my learning lesson was just how effective rattling can be in the right spot, at the right time. I bought the "Pack Rack" by Knight and Hale. I believe this is the dest invention since toilet paper!
I also witnessed something that I had read about many times. Though I have always believed it, I got to see different bucks cruising on downwind sides of thickets. When the wind changed, the bucks changed sides too. I was hunting on the North end of a thicket. I could mmonitor trails that ran North/South. There was one on the East side of the thicket. There was one on the West side of the thicket.
I had several bucks that I considered regulars in the area. When the wind would blow from the East, these bucks would always cruise the West trail. When the wind switched from the West, the bucks would use the Eastern trail.
I even watched a buck cruising one day. As he was coming down the trail, he abruptly stopped, made a 90 degree turn and eased up into the thicket to a bedded doe which I never knew was laying there......Crazy!
Edited by SAR Swimmer (01/06/10 12:46 PM)
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#1710745 - 01/06/10 03:17 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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No matter how confident you are, how much you prepared, or how much you scouted, a mature buck will only show his face when he wants to. I have been blessed for the last 8 years straight to see a mature deer. This year, although I know they are there, did not see one mature deer(4.5 or older). And that is why I continue to go, you just never know.
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#1710806 - 01/06/10 03:52 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Wouldn't say I learned it more like just remembered that a trophy buck is just icing on the cake. Good times with good friends is where I truly find my enjoyment in the outdoors...........Yeah, I had my cake without icing this season but enjoyed every bite of it.
DITTO, well said but I had my icing...I still have one tag... 
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#1710835 - 01/06/10 04:09 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Devin2009
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...always reload your muzzleloader after you shoot a deer....even if you think they are dead.....he wasn't well until a couple of weeks later when my cousin killed him....
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#1710851 - 01/06/10 04:20 PM
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270 grain gold dots in my 444 are a little to much for deer.
The rebuilt 338-06 is a dead on/killing machine.
Hunting from the ground is still A OK.
Need a bigger freezer.
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#1711148 - 01/06/10 06:51 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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No matter how confident you are, how much you prepared, or how much you scouted, a mature buck will only show his face when he wants to.
I hear that!
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#1711202 - 01/06/10 07:06 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Great thread...I learned that no matter how good we think we can hunt the deer are always 1 step ahead..lol...and i still love hunting em...I also learned that it not gonna be long before its time to start getting ready fer the bow opener...Got some work to do on the home place...
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#1711380 - 01/06/10 08:07 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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That it is impossible to keep my feet warm.
If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand.
Don't give up on a spot if your gut tells you it is where you need to be.
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#1712190 - 01/07/10 08:47 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand.
I'll be sure to inform my wife of that!!! 
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#1712370 - 01/07/10 09:38 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Hunting from the ground is still A OK.
Had shoulder surgery and spent the bulk of the year in a short camp chair with my rifle propped on shooting sticks. It was a real revelation.
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#1712776 - 01/07/10 12:15 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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never give up.i hunted proably 40-50 times this year and only seen deer 5 times. killed 4 and my biggest buck ever.
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#1712947 - 01/07/10 01:42 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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A prussic knot and a good safety line attached to my harness works great for climbing into lock on stands above 25 ft.
The top portion of a summit can be raised above your head while in the tree and if the seat is positioned correctly can keep you dry in the heaviest of downpours.
Deer would rather bed on the south side.
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#1712984 - 01/07/10 01:49 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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After waiting on a better shot on 2 gooderns and then them dissappearing I finally figured if I was gonna kill one of em I was gonna have to turn loose of some bullets!The time to kill a big buck is when you see him and don't count on seein him again.
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#1713185 - 01/07/10 03:52 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand. I'm trying my best NOT to imagine this!! 
Imagine stik's surprise when he walked into the bathroom when I was testing it to see if it would work 
A girl's gotta do what a girl's gotta do!
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#1713187 - 01/07/10 03:55 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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YOU TELL IT GIRL !!!!!
The other half of Double-D-Team.
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#1713329 - 01/07/10 05:44 PM
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand. I'm trying my best NOT to imagine this!! Imagine stik's surprise when he walked into the bathroom when I was testing it to see if it would work
I'm trying desparately to remove that mental image from my mind!!!
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#1714488 - 01/08/10 11:05 AM
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand. I'm trying my best NOT to imagine this!! Imagine stik's surprise when he walked into the bathroom when I was testing it to see if it would work I'm trying desparately to remove that mental image from my mind!!!
LMAO, same here, some things are just better never said! 
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#1714493 - 01/08/10 11:09 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand. I'm trying my best NOT to imagine this!! Imagine stik's surprise when he walked into the bathroom when I was testing it to see if it would work I'm trying desparately to remove that mental image from my mind!!!
i still haven't recovered.
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#1714578 - 01/08/10 12:15 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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...always reload your muzzleloader after you shoot a deer....even if you think they are dead.....he wasn't well until a couple of weeks later when my cousin killed him....
Been there and done that almost, I did reload a primer, but thats it. Pulled the trigger the second time looking for a boom and got a poof.
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#1714721 - 01/08/10 01:44 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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I learned not to take my bow while rifle season is open when there is a mature buck on the property that you desperately want to kill. Even if you haven't seen him or got a pic of him in over a month. 
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#1714928 - 01/08/10 03:53 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Bowdacious
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Registered: 09/01/00
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Loc: over here
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If you cut a coke bottle just right you can use it to pee standing up and not have to get half naked in the cold or climb down out of your stand. I'm trying my best NOT to imagine this!! Imagine stik's surprise when he walked into the bathroom when I was testing it to see if it would work I'm trying desparately to remove that mental image from my mind!!! i still haven't recovered.
Too funny! I'll see what else I can come up with to freak you out! Like I said, you come up with ideas when you get tired of stripping down just to relieve yourself
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#1714932 - 01/08/10 03:53 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Hey! Did I just successfully hijack a thread??? Cool.:)
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#1715108 - 01/08/10 06:06 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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ShaneHallum
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Registered: 08/30/08
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Loc: Belk Tennessee
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Hey! Did I just successfully hijack a thread??? Cool.:)
Mine would be, park futher away from the woods. And leave earlier on your way to the woods, and take you slow sweet time getting into the stand.. No need 2 speed climb up a tree.
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#1715115 - 01/08/10 06:11 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Bowdacious
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Hey! Did I just successfully hijack a thread??? Cool.:) Mine would be, park futher away from the woods. And leave earlier on your way to the woods, and take you slow sweet time getting into the stand.. No need 2 speed climb up a tree.
Hey! Quit messing with my hijack Buddy!!
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#1716079 - 01/09/10 09:22 AM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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BSK
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Hey! Did I just successfully hijack a thread??? Cool.:)
Yes you did, and it's about time!
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#1716420 - 01/09/10 02:38 PM
Re: Biggest lesson learned this season??
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Krazyvol
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Registered: 11/27/08
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Loc: Knox Co. and Weakley Co
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I learned, Don't rely on others to hang a stand for you, or when you climb up in the tree for the first time and shine your light forward, you will see a large tree with 8 big forking branches with very few shooting lanes. I learned that the hard way when 3 walked out 50 yards from me and I had no shot.
I learned to buy a climbing stand for next year so I can move where I want.
I learned that no matter how cold I get or how frustrated I get, I love being in the woods and observing nature and wildlife with no one to bother me.
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