#1706924 - 01/04/10 04:35 PM
Not a 1 BUCK LIMIT thread....
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gator-n-buck
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How many did kill three bucks this year and tagged out...(not counting bonus bucks/draw hunts/out of state). I know a lot of hunters that could of but didn't....
P.S. The reason I bring this up is because its one of the biggest debates (buck limits) on here but I think in the end, hunters do a good job of monitoring the number of bucks they kill depending on their goals...
G-N-B
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#1706928 - 01/04/10 04:38 PM
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mathews338
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i did all mature
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#1706946 - 01/04/10 04:43 PM
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Redwing
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Sadly, to this date I am "Buckless". Have been since I got married. I don't care who u are, that's funny.
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#1706962 - 01/04/10 04:48 PM
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adamf5353
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0 this year, and I tried hard.
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#1706968 - 01/04/10 04:49 PM
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superdeerhunter
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one that's good enuff for me
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#1706976 - 01/04/10 04:52 PM
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gator-n-buck
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I got two this year and the 3rd one, would have had to be a good one before I pulled the trigger...
P.S. Not done yet, one last weekend in the cold.............
G-N-B
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#1706983 - 01/04/10 04:54 PM
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#1706985 - 01/04/10 04:55 PM
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cecil30-30
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1- 2.5yr old 1- 3.5yr old,maybe 4.5yr old
could of whacked a yearling spike,but choose not to...My best year yet,i've never taken more than 1 buck,up until this year.
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#1706988 - 01/04/10 04:56 PM
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jb3
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I'm in favor of it. Had one guy on our lease take three, all over 120". Another hunter took two, both over 130". They both would have not liked the one buck rule at all.
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#1706990 - 01/04/10 04:57 PM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8
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#1706996 - 01/04/10 05:00 PM
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gator-n-buck
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I'm in favor of it. Had one guy on our lease take three, all over 120". Another hunter took two, both over 130". They both would have not liked the one buck rule at all.
I believe if we avg it out across the state (hunters/bucks killed), we would be surprised that debating this is a moot point.....
G-N-B
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#1707026 - 01/04/10 05:16 PM
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DeerJay3
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I got 2...and my cousins who i hunt with often got 2 each...BUt we have gotten picky over the past several years...
im with u gnb...some folks mite get all 3 but alot of folks are being more picky...And at least where i hunt it has shown great improvement
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#1707089 - 01/04/10 05:44 PM
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The percentage of hunters that kill 3 bucks will be small.
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#1707106 - 01/04/10 05:52 PM
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I believe they know that, this isn't just about limiting the amount of bucks you kill, its more about limiting the amount of time you are in the woods and can interfere with their hunting.
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#1707192 - 01/04/10 06:24 PM
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redblood
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1 buck- 4.5 122"
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#1707195 - 01/04/10 06:26 PM
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redblood
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The percentage of hunters that kill 3 bucks will be small.
The percentage of hunters that check in 3 bucks will be small.
Edited by redblood (01/04/10 06:28 PM)
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#1707197 - 01/04/10 06:26 PM
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ridgehunter
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0 let a small one walk.
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#1707201 - 01/04/10 06:27 PM
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Buckhunter72
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Hunted probably 50 days, seen probably 20 different bucks, Killed 2. (2.5 and 3.5)
Brother in law 2 (2.5 and 4.5)
uncle 1 (4.5)
cousin 0
brother 0, but killed two does. he would just assume do that.
I am going to hunt the last week-end. Probably won't kill one, cause it's going to have to be a big one, but I am glad I have that option!
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#1707230 - 01/04/10 06:40 PM
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Savage Shooter
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Buckless this season, but it ain't over till the fat lady sings. I'm off all this week and am going to do my best to get at least 1 decent one.
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#1707282 - 01/04/10 07:05 PM
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nate17
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Ive hunted a buttload of days. Ive prolly let 12-15 2.5 yr old deer and younger walk. Only one doe for me. Im getting ready to let an arrow fly before season ends tho..lol.
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#1707287 - 01/04/10 07:07 PM
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GOHUNT
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I wish they would go back to a 2 buck limit statewide. I think there was obvious improvement in the quality of the bucks killed in Greene County while under the 2 buck rule. I'm not in favor of the one buck limit though.
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#1707292 - 01/04/10 07:09 PM
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0 for me,
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#1707357 - 01/04/10 07:29 PM
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Mossy Oak
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I killed two mature bucks and pretty much called it quits. I had the opportunity to use my third tag on a mature buck but I just didn't have it in me.
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#1707390 - 01/04/10 07:37 PM
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No bucks for me. A couple have gotten a pass.
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#1707400 - 01/04/10 07:40 PM
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I got 1 3.5. That's all for me. Still looking
My dad 0
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#1707455 - 01/04/10 07:57 PM
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paradis1142
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tagged out
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#1707466 - 01/04/10 08:00 PM
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I did! 1- 4.5 2- 3.5
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#1707477 - 01/04/10 08:04 PM
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mallardman09
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Killed 1 3/5 year old. Alot of hunting 14 bow trips, 6 or 7 trips with the encore, several gun trips, saw alot of does, very few bucks at all. Mainly saw most of bucks through deer camera at night. I must have missed the rut this year didn't see any seeking,chasing
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#1707503 - 01/04/10 08:12 PM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8
Hunters:25 Bucks:26
I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter...
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#1707587 - 01/04/10 08:40 PM
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mallardman09
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good call
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#1707730 - 01/04/10 09:23 PM
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RamMan
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Shot one 3.5 year old. I was thrilled because I passed him up last year... found both his sheds... and then got him this year. Passed up many small bucks this year.
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#1707766 - 01/04/10 09:44 PM
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redblood
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Dangerous time of year to hunt bucks. I almost shot a nive 2.5 or mediocre 3.5 year old 8 pt saturday afternoon. Done I had my safety off. He was in some really thick stuff. So thankful I didn't shoot. So many hunters are doing a great job on letting young deer walk. I hope they don't blow it at the finish line.
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#1708002 - 01/05/10 07:10 AM
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter...
Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27
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#1708003 - 01/05/10 07:11 AM
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One 2.5 in ML season. Saw 3 or 4 spikes and one other 8pt that I let walk. I'm regretting letting the 8 walk now, as that's the only other racked buck I've seen all year.
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#1708022 - 01/05/10 07:21 AM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter... Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27
Hunters:27 Bucks:28
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#1708112 - 01/05/10 08:28 AM
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woodchuckc
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One 3.5 year old 9 point during muzzleloader for me.
Hopefully a chance at one more this weekend (or at least a nice fat doe - I need to make some summer sausage!)
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#1708127 - 01/05/10 08:36 AM
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a 3.5 yr old 8 pt a 4.5 yr old 9 pt.
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#1708170 - 01/05/10 08:52 AM
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megalomaniac
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I'm in favor of it. Had one guy on our lease take three, all over 120". Another hunter took two, both over 130". They both would have not liked the one buck rule at all. I believe if we avg it out across the state (hunters/bucks killed), we would be surprised that debating this is a moot point..... G-N-B
Here's the real question...
If the two other guys on your lease had not killed multiple big bucks, would it have increased your (jb3's) chances of killing just one big buck? Would it 'spread the wealth'?
Maybe so, maybe not... but that's about the only reason I see for 1 buck limit...
Then there's the question of possible negative impacts of a 1 buck limit... for example, would people tag out, quit hunting and not shoot any does? Or would the opposite happen, people take more does for the freezer since they can only get one buck?
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#1708226 - 01/05/10 09:36 AM
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No bucks. No sense either. One doe during early bow. That's it.
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#1708260 - 01/05/10 09:54 AM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter... Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27 Hunters:27 Bucks:28
Hunters:30 Bucks:31
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#1708314 - 01/05/10 10:18 AM
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1 buck
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#1708357 - 01/05/10 10:50 AM
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I've shot 1 eight point this year. He was 5.5 yrs old. (We've had him on camera for years) Not interested in shooting young bucks.
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#1708360 - 01/05/10 10:53 AM
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Baxter83
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I got 1 this year. Besides 2 small spikes that I had mistaken for does that was my first buck since 1998 if that means anything....
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#1708518 - 01/05/10 12:15 PM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter... Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27 Hunters:27 Bucks:28 Hunters:30 Bucks:31
Hunters:34 Bucks:36
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#1708575 - 01/05/10 12:52 PM
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TN Larry
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0 for me thus far but let a lot of small bucks walk and hunted a countless amount of hours. Blew my only two chances for good bucks so I can't complain. I only have myself to blame.
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#1708627 - 01/05/10 01:22 PM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter... Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27 Hunters:27 Bucks:28 Hunters:30 Bucks:31 Hunters:34 Bucks:36
Hunters:35 Bucks:36
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#1708631 - 01/05/10 01:23 PM
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Tree Tramp
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0 for me. Alot of areas in TN cant support liberal buck limits.
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#1708641 - 01/05/10 01:28 PM
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Shot 1 buck and then took a couple does and quit hunting my property for the year.
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#1708648 - 01/05/10 01:29 PM
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gator-n-buck
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So far 8 hunters.... and 8 bucks
Hunters: 8 Bucks: 8 Hunters:25 Bucks:26 I'm still wondering why we are hung up on buck limits when so far this little survey is showing that the avg... is one buck per hunter... Hunters: 26 Bucks: 27 Hunters:27 Bucks:28 Hunters:30 Bucks:31 Hunters:34 Bucks:36 Hunters:35 Bucks:36
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#1708667 - 01/05/10 01:40 PM
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looks like there is no need for a one buck limit, that is all that is being killed on average anyway!!
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#1708829 - 01/05/10 03:22 PM
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Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?...
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#1708868 - 01/05/10 03:41 PM
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i have killed 2 bucks........opening day of muzzleloader a nice 2.5,7 point came threw i shot him he was my biggest to date.....fastforward till that wednesday.......a mere 5 days later......the buck i have been hunting for 2 years came out....i got him!!!!! a big 8 point......he is now my biggest.....if it was a 1 buck state...i would not have killed my biggest buck....that 7 point was great...but not very big....bigger that what i useally kill.....i would have had to let the 8 point go .....that would suck.....i would leave the limits alone.......their still are big deer...we might not see them but they are here........but i could have killed a truck load of spikes and 4 pointer and scrubby bucks....and even a nice 2.5 eight point...but if we had a one buck i would have had to make a choice...i could not see the future so i shot the 7 point......i have no regrets for 5 days he was my best buck....
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#1708931 - 01/05/10 04:10 PM
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I got two this year and the 3rd one, would have had to be a good one before I pulled the trigger...
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#1708944 - 01/05/10 04:22 PM
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Hunters:37 Bucks:37
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?...
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#1708945 - 01/05/10 04:22 PM
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I got one buck opening of gun.Thats the last one I have seen this year.tagged several does.
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#1708947 - 01/05/10 04:23 PM
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0 bucks for me. Passed several young ones and didn't see the one I was after.
Looks like all a 1 buck limit would do is limit opportunity to be in the woods and revenue for TWRA from license sales.
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#1708954 - 01/05/10 04:30 PM
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i have killed 2 bucks........opening day of muzzleloader a nice 2.5,7 point came threw i shot him he was my biggest to date.....fastforward till that wednesday.......a mere 5 days later......the buck i have been hunting for 2 years came out....i got him!!!!! a big 8 point......he is now my biggest.....if it was a 1 buck state...i would not have killed my biggest buck....that 7 point was great...but not very big....bigger that what i useally kill.....i would have had to let the 8 point go .....that would suck.....i would leave the limits alone.......
Would you have killed the 7 point with a one buck limit? Or would you have waited on the buck you've hunted for 2 years?
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#1708956 - 01/05/10 04:32 PM
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Looks like all a 1 buck limit would do is limit opportunity to be in the woods and revenue for TWRA from license sales.
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#1708984 - 01/05/10 04:47 PM
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i have killed 2 bucks........opening day of muzzleloader a nice 2.5,7 point came threw i shot him he was my biggest to date.....fastforward till that wednesday.......a mere 5 days later......the buck i have been hunting for 2 years came out....i got him!!!!! a big 8 point......he is now my biggest.....if it was a 1 buck state...i would not have killed my biggest buck....that 7 point was great...but not very big....bigger that what i useally kill.....i would have had to let the 8 point go .....that would suck.....i would leave the limits alone....... Would you have killed the 7 point with a one buck limit? Or would you have waited on the buck you've hunted for 2 years?
Hunters:37 Bucks:37
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?... Hunters:39 Bucks:41
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#1708998 - 01/05/10 04:55 PM
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i have killed 2 bucks........opening day of muzzleloader a nice 2.5,7 point came threw i shot him he was my biggest to date.....fastforward till that wednesday.......a mere 5 days later......the buck i have been hunting for 2 years came out....i got him!!!!! a big 8 point......he is now my biggest.....if it was a 1 buck state...i would not have killed my biggest buck....that 7 point was great...but not very big....bigger that what i useally kill.....i would have had to let the 8 point go .....that would suck.....i would leave the limits alone....... Would you have killed the 7 point with a one buck limit? Or would you have waited on the buck you've hunted for 2 years?
i'm happy for him he got to shoot both of them.No reason for a one buck limit.
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#1709140 - 01/05/10 06:03 PM
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i have killed 2 bucks........opening day of muzzleloader a nice 2.5,7 point came threw i shot him he was my biggest to date.....fastforward till that wednesday.......a mere 5 days later......the buck i have been hunting for 2 years came out....i got him!!!!! a big 8 point......he is now my biggest.....if it was a 1 buck state...i would not have killed my biggest buck....that 7 point was great...but not very big....bigger that what i useally kill.....i would have had to let the 8 point go .....that would suck.....i would leave the limits alone....... Would you have killed the 7 point with a one buck limit? Or would you have waited on the buck you've hunted for 2 years?
yea...probally.....he was to good to pass....i have killed a bunch of deer....but he is a very pretty buck......matching....g2's tall rack.....about 14" wide but tall....did not have a g3 on one side...but a very good buck.....as bad as i wanted "slick" i would have shot him and then my buck hunting would have been over.....
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#1709159 - 01/05/10 06:14 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting......if they could only kill 1 buck....they probally could do that in just one hunt....thus.....hampering the learning process.....if they only hunted 1 time a year how would that make them good buck hunters....sure they can kill does...but killing bucks is a whole lot harder....and takes great skills.....and most kids just want horns.....anyway....ajh
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#1709557 - 01/05/10 09:20 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting......if they could only kill 1 buck....they probally could do that in just one hunt....thus.....hampering the learning process.....if they only hunted 1 time a year how would that make them good buck hunters....sure they can kill does...but killing bucks is a whole lot harder....and takes great skills.....and most kids just want horns.....anyway....ajh
I agree totally and the buck limit debate is a moot point....... It comes down to this....all the guys on here that are in the know have said it over and over... This will never be Southern IL. or W. KY... If you are not happy here go down to FL. and kill some of those 50 pound dogs that have a 10 inch spread.. After several years of that you will be happy to shoot TN bucks..
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#1709572 - 01/05/10 09:26 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting
I guess only states with liberal buck limits produce young hunters.
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#1709594 - 01/05/10 09:36 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting I guess only states with liberal buck limits produce young hunters.
Probably not but TN probably sell a lot more hunting license and those hunter were young once also ... Who in the heck wants to hunt a few days out of the yr with a shotgun or MZ and only can kill one buck... Sorry to tell you but on avg... a mature buck in those states will always have more antler mass than the same age buck in this state... Thats just the way it is and buck limits are a moot point when you are splitting hairs between one or three... Most hunter never kill 3 and there are several that never kill a buck during the season...
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#1709640 - 01/05/10 09:59 PM
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My situation may be the exception to the rule, but based off the one hunter, my youngest brother, that I have mentored, only allowing him to kill mature bucks has not turned him off at all. It has done the exact opposite. He is determined to kill only mature deer and realizes that he most likely he will harvest only one a year if he is lucky. The excitement is in the challenge.
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#1709671 - 01/05/10 10:09 PM
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My situation may be the exception to the rule, but based off the one hunter, my youngest brother, that I have mentored, only allowing him to kill mature bucks has not turned him off at all. It has done the exact opposite. He is determined to kill only mature deer and realizes that he most likely he will harvest only one a year if he is lucky. The excitement is in the challenge.
thats great for you and him if thats how you all want to hunt.But I like that you all have the choice to kill only one buck and hunt that way and others 400 miles away from you or 5 miles from you have the choice to hunt how they want and kill 3 bucks if they want
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#1709681 - 01/05/10 10:14 PM
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My situation may be the exception to the rule, but based off the one hunter, my youngest brother, that I have mentored, only allowing him to kill mature bucks has not turned him off at all. It has done the exact opposite. He is determined to kill only mature deer and realizes that he most likely he will harvest only one a year if he is lucky. The excitement is in the challenge.
I think hunting is a learning process and most hunters start out just wanting to kill deer... I think somewhere down the line the hunter decides what his goals are and he starts hunting mature bucks... I wouldn't want to start a young hunter out only hunting mature bucks... He could be learning a lot before he got to that ponit just hunting DEER.....
P.S. Maybe since I'm 41 and I have been hunting all my life I might be a little old Skool... but I don't remember my father telling me to hunt mature bucks when I was growing up... Also we didn't have these hunting shows on these deer farms selling products back then...
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#1709687 - 01/05/10 10:23 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting I guess only states with liberal buck limits produce young hunters. Probably not but TN probably sell a lot more hunting license....
You're kidding, right?
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#1709694 - 01/05/10 10:27 PM
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Who in the heck wants to hunt a few days out of the yr with a shotgun or MZ and only can kill one buck
Unit L, 094, 3 does per day, every day of the season. Rifle, too.
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#1709698 - 01/05/10 10:30 PM
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I agree with you RAFI and Gator-n-buck. The number of bucks a year a hunter harvests is not my concern. To each their own. I take as many youths as possible, and if they have never harvested a buck, I let them shoot whatever they want, but after that mature bucks only if they hunt with me on my land and the properties I manage. Im my humble opinion too many people discuss and focus on the buck limits and not on just teaching and practicing letting young bucks grow to reach their full potential.
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#1709702 - 01/05/10 10:34 PM
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting I guess only states with liberal buck limits produce young hunters. Probably not but TN probably sell a lot more hunting license.... You're kidding, right?
NO... at one time I read an article where TN lead the U.S. in hunting and fishing license...
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#1709707 - 01/05/10 10:37 PM
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Sorry to tell you but on avg... a mature buck in those states will always have more antler mass than the same age buck in this state... I agree
Thats just the way it is and buck limits are a moot point when you are splitting hairs between one or three... Most hunter never kill 3 and there are several that never kill a buck during the season... It's a little more than splitting hairs or you wouldn't have started a thread to state why we should keep a 3 buck limit.
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#1709716 - 01/05/10 10:40 PM
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I agree with you RAFI and Gator-n-buck. The number of bucks a year a hunter harvests is not my concern. To each their own. I take as many youths as possible, and if they have never harvested a buck, I let them shoot whatever they want, but after that mature bucks only if they hunt with me on my land and the properties I manage. Im my humble opinion too many people discuss and focus on the buck limits and not on just teaching and practicing letting young bucks grow to reach their full potential.
you got to do what you think is right.I just hate kids being told what to shoot.If a kid wants to shoot a button for thier first deer then great.Wants to shoot a button for thier second deer then great.A 45 year old wants to shoot a button then great.
If a kid decides not to shoot an 8 point because he is waiting on a 10 then great.Just think it should be up to the hunter and not others telling them what to do and what is right and wrong.
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#1709718 - 01/05/10 10:42 PM
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Sorry to tell you but on avg... a mature buck in those states will always have more antler mass than the same age buck in this state... I agree Thats just the way it is and buck limits are a moot point when you are splitting hairs between one or three... Most hunter never kill 3 and there are several that never kill a buck during the season... It's a little more than splitting hairs or you wouldn't have started a thread to state why we should keep a 3 buck limit.
I didn't state why we should keep a 3 buck limit... so far this thread has shown that hunters are only avg... one buck.... some none ....several 2.... and very few 3...
Heres the stats so far:
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#1709723 - 01/05/10 10:45 PM
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You can put me down for 1, also.
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#1709728 - 01/05/10 10:50 PM
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You can put me down for 1, also.
Hunters:42 Bucks:43
Thanks... I like a 3 buck limit and wouldn't have a problem with a 2 buck limit... I just think a one buck limit isn't going to make a differents... I have seen it debated on here to many times and I think TWRA know what they are doing...
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#1709741 - 01/05/10 10:58 PM
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Rafi, I agree. I will not tell someone else how they should hunt or what they should shoot, until they are hunting properties under my control.
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#1709753 - 01/05/10 11:10 PM
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[quote=Yodel Dog]You can put me down for 1, also.
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Thanks... I like a 3 buck limit and wouldn't have a problem with a 2 buck limit... I just think a one buck limit isn't going to make a differents... I have seen it debated on here to many times and I think TWRA know what they are doing...
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?...
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#1709755 - 01/05/10 11:13 PM
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0 for me. Most people that I'm around have only killed 1 buck, 2 max.
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#1709759 - 01/05/10 11:15 PM
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Hunters:43 Bucks:43
Thanks... I like a 3 buck limit and wouldn't have a problem with a 2 buck limit... I just think a one buck limit isn't going to make a differents... I have seen it debated on here to many times and I think TWRA know what they are doing...
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?...
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#1709761 - 01/05/10 11:22 PM
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Rafi, I agree. I will not tell someone else how they should hunt or what they should shoot, until they are hunting properties under my control.
Thats your choice.I'm glad we get to decide on land here 3 bucks or only one.Thats what I think is good for us in Tn.If people want to limit it to one buck they can.If people want 3 they can.
i hunt on a lease where they blast all the bucks they see but hey I still try to kill big bucks on it.Makes it hard but thats how it is.
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#1709762 - 01/05/10 11:24 PM
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Hunters:43 Bucks:43
Thanks... I like a 3 buck limit and wouldn't have a problem with a 2 buck limit... I just think a one buck limit isn't going to make a differents... I have seen it debated on here to many times and I think TWRA know what they are doing...
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?...
So who you waiting on?Im calling them out.lol
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#1709770 - 01/05/10 11:32 PM
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Hunters:43 Bucks:43
Thanks... I like a 3 buck limit and wouldn't have a problem with a 2 buck limit... I just think a one buck limit isn't going to make a differents... I have seen it debated on here to many times and I think TWRA know what they are doing...
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?... So who you waiting on?Im calling them out.lol
I got a few on here that wanted to debate but they didn't give me a # and wanted to talk about others and what they killed... I'm willing to bet if every member gave us a #, it would be around one buck or less per hunter... A lot of these nice bucks I have seen posted on here lately are from new members and in some cases, its their 1st post...
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#1709898 - 01/06/10 06:37 AM
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#1709959 - 01/06/10 07:27 AM
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gator-n-buck
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#1709973 - 01/06/10 07:37 AM
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0, passed several 6-8 pts. killed several does. hunted ky . killed 1 buck and 1 doe.self control takes over when they dont take your breath away. let em go and grow. unless you re starving.it takes years to learn to do this but you will be proud you did. eat well have fun hunting,dont let the meat grinder seize up.let your neighbor do as he wants. he will run the big one your way.dj
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#1710056 - 01/06/10 08:17 AM
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this is quite possibly the most worthless thread I've seen on here due to a combination of inadequate sampling and incorrect assumption in what you are trying to prove.
Let me put it to you like this...
If EVERY single hunter in the state who harvested a buck killed their 3 buck limit, guess what the statwide average would be???
The answer would be 1.5 bucks/hunter on average, since 50% of the hunters out there never kill a single buck. There's your most accurate average.
So, in other words, we could go to a 10 buck/ yr limit and still have those who harvest a buck kill 10 per year (as long as 90% of the population does not kill a single buck) and we'd still average out 1 buck/person/yr.
A liberal limit on bucks ASSUMES and RELIES on the fact that half of the hunters won't kill a buck at all. In fact, it REQUIRES that half the hunters don't kill a buck at all, and a majority of the others restrict themselves to prevent an overharvest of the resource.
So, sure, a 3 buck limit is just fine- as long as you are the one killing the 3 bucks and your neighbors aren't.
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#1710148 - 01/06/10 08:54 AM
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this is quite possibly the most worthless thread I've seen on here due to a combination of inadequate sampling and incorrect assumption in what you are trying to prove.
Let me put it to you like this...
If EVERY single hunter in the state who harvested a buck killed their 3 buck limit, guess what the statwide average would be???
The answer would be 1.5 bucks/hunter on average, since 50% of the hunters out there never kill a single buck. There's your most accurate average.
So, in other words, we could go to a 10 buck/ yr limit and still have those who harvest a buck kill 10 per year (as long as 90% of the population does not kill a single buck) and we'd still average out 1 buck/person/yr.
A liberal limit on bucks ASSUMES and RELIES on the fact that half of the hunters won't kill a buck at all. In fact, it REQUIRES that half the hunters don't kill a buck at all, and a majority of the others restrict themselves to prevent an overharvest of the resource.
So, sure, a 3 buck limit is just fine- as long as you are the one killing the 3 bucks and your neighbors aren't.
In a sense. Even though TWRA sets a bag limit, we are intelligent enough (believe it or not) to know, in reality, most hunters will not "kill the bag limit."
The same thing with a lot of quota hunts. In most instances, we know only 50% of the hunters drawn will show up. So, if you want 100 hunters, you set the quota at 200. There is no "bag limit" for trappers. That does not mean that one trapper will catch every raccoon in the state in one night. It's just not gonna happen. There are limits, and there is reality. The trick is to set the limits to achieve the reality you want.
Exactly what you said megalomaniac. They depend on hunters buying licenses and being unsuccessful.
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#1710332 - 01/06/10 10:50 AM
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gator-n-buck
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this is quite possibly the most worthless thread I've seen on here due to a combination of inadequate sampling and incorrect assumption in what you are trying to prove.
Let me put it to you like this...
If EVERY single hunter in the state who harvested a buck killed their 3 buck limit, guess what the statwide average would be???
The answer would be 1.5 bucks/hunter on average, since 50% of the hunters out there never kill a single buck. There's your most accurate average.
So, in other words, we could go to a 10 buck/ yr limit and still have those who harvest a buck kill 10 per year (as long as 90% of the population does not kill a single buck) and we'd still average out 1 buck/person/yr.
A liberal limit on bucks ASSUMES and RELIES on the fact that half of the hunters won't kill a buck at all. In fact, it REQUIRES that half the hunters don't kill a buck at all, and a majority of the others restrict themselves to prevent an overharvest of the resource.
So, sure, a 3 buck limit is just fine- as long as you are the one killing the 3 bucks and your neighbors aren't.
This is not a survey for the whole state.... This is a survey for TN deer members... The ones that want to debate over buck limits, every other week....... If the guys on here that are serious hunters are only avg.... one buck per hunter... I could only wonder if its even lower for non-serious hunters? Just a thought... The one buck debate always seems pretty worthless since no body wants to listen to the guys that do this for a living (I'm not one of them)...
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#1710341 - 01/06/10 10:55 AM
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2 - 8 points one 3 1/2 and one 4 1/2 waiting on real big to use last tag. Could be today.
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#1710351 - 01/06/10 10:58 AM
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#1710589 - 01/06/10 01:09 PM
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3 for me 1 4.5 2 3.5 but not all in TN
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#1710611 - 01/06/10 01:30 PM
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#1710616 - 01/06/10 01:32 PM
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3 for me 1 4.5 2 3.5 but not all in TN
How many in TN?
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#1710761 - 01/06/10 03:26 PM
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#1710805 - 01/06/10 03:51 PM
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Devin2009
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also a 1 buck limit would probally turn most kids off hunting I guess only states with liberal buck limits produce young hunters.
no...i am sure they do....but their are many more bigger deer...they have the soils and all the things they need....i we only had a 1 buck limit.....i would be point less......people would quite hunting...if you want more hunters.....let them shoot bucks....most young hunters only care about shooting bucks......for the first few years all i wanted was bucks...i loved the horns.....even if they were small...i still wanted them....now i have grown...i want big bucks.....i no longer shoot little bucks....buck i have no problem with people who do....i know how if feels..ja
p.s.yodel dog.......read the whole post....you highligted only the first sentence without reading the whole thing>>>
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#1710929 - 01/06/10 04:44 PM
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#1711432 - 01/06/10 08:31 PM
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#1711439 - 01/06/10 08:35 PM
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#1711578 - 01/06/10 09:34 PM
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this is quite possibly the most worthless thread I've seen on here due to a combination of inadequate sampling and incorrect assumption in what you are trying to prove.
Let me put it to you like this...
If EVERY single hunter in the state who harvested a buck killed their 3 buck limit, guess what the statwide average would be???
The answer would be 1.5 bucks/hunter on average, since 50% of the hunters out there never kill a single buck. There's your most accurate average.
So, in other words, we could go to a 10 buck/ yr limit and still have those who harvest a buck kill 10 per year (as long as 90% of the population does not kill a single buck) and we'd still average out 1 buck/person/yr.
A liberal limit on bucks ASSUMES and RELIES on the fact that half of the hunters won't kill a buck at all. In fact, it REQUIRES that half the hunters don't kill a buck at all, and a majority of the others restrict themselves to prevent an overharvest of the resource.
So, sure, a 3 buck limit is just fine- as long as you are the one killing the 3 bucks and your neighbors aren't.
I totally agree with you on that. Every time I read this thread a get a laugh. Have no idea what this will prove. Looks to me like we should be more concerned with percentage of hunters being successful and percentage of available bucks being harvested than average number of bucks killed per hunter. All you have to do is look at harvest totals and find out have many people bought tags to get an average per hunter. Anybody can use this poll to support anything they want.
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#1711683 - 01/06/10 10:17 PM
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The one buck debate always seems pretty worthless since no body wants to listen to the guys that do this for a living (I'm not one of them)...
I appreciate the experts' input, even though I may not always agree. But I am a realist and here's how I see it. Even though I support lower buck limits, I'm not naive enough to think we will ever be a trophy state. We may not need more mature bucks, but, as bad as some people hate it, trophy hunting is the future of our sport. Don't think for one second the next generation, after growing up with Waddel and every other hunting celebrity, will be content with the same caliber bucks we are today. Everything changes, we are crazy to think hunting will be any different. Trophy hunting is the future of our sport. It's changing already, whether you like it or not.
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#1711709 - 01/06/10 10:34 PM
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We may not need more mature bucks, but, as bad as some people hate it, trophy hunting is the future of our sport. Don't think for one second the next generation, after growing up with Waddel and every other hunting celebrity, will be content with the same caliber bucks we are today. Everything changes, we are crazy to think hunting will be any different. Trophy hunting is the future of our sport. It's changing already, whether you like it or not.
Thats is a very sad out look right there to me...Trophy hunting will be the down fall of the sport of hunting, not the salvation of it...but you are absolutly right,...it has already began...
As far as I am concerned, Waddel and almost every other hunting celebrity has taken the very essance of what the sport of hunting is supposed to be about and turned it in the same direction as Tiger Woods and almost every other celebrity has taken the essance of what family values are supposed to be about.....
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#1711874 - 01/07/10 06:00 AM
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I'm just glad that I'm blessed with property of which I own, so that I can just hunt and eat what I kill, kill what I want, and not really consider it a sport. Just think about it, was it a sport from the beginning? No. And I will never consider it such. Some will go right along with the flow, while complaining it's just the way the sport is evolving, but not all. jmo and probably not worth 2 cents, but it is what it is.
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#1711968 - 01/07/10 06:57 AM
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Setterman
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I hate to say it but I agree with Yodeldog on the future of this sport. The tsunami of trophy management has made its way through most regions of the country, and that is the way mentality is going. It is not a bad thing as long as everyone keeps things in perspective and does not try to be too nasty with promoting their ideas.
What seems to happen to most, is that they dip a toe in at management, and fairly shortly they get a crack at a nice deer. Usually once that first glimpse or chance happens there is no looking back, and a complete shift happens. For some that is not the case of course.
I hung the whining and complaining on the shelf last summer, and will not let myself go back to that mentality. There are big deer everywhere, and sometimes a little adjusting is all it takes to get one in front of you. Sometimes a little negotiation with neighbors helps alleviate a situation, and provide a future full of big buck possibilities.
It is a little naive to think that the OVERALL mentality of deer hunters hasn't changed. Just take a look at every TV program, magazine, products, addvertisements, and discussions for evidence.
Is it a good thing or a bad thing? Depends on where you stand I guess, and how each side handles the differences.
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#1712069 - 01/07/10 07:49 AM
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I too agree that Trophy mentality is taking a deep hold on much of the hunting world. I will have to say, that I in no way hold the TV personalities responsible for hunters thinking every hunt should be like they see on TV. If you are not smart enough to use some common sense and separate what is reality from dreamland, then you have a personal problem. Its no different than watching a drag race, your car wont run like that and you know it, a pro basketball game, you cant play with them and you know it, even the kids at a young age learn to discern the differences and hunting is no exception! Just because you see it on TV is absolutely no excuse for believing its true! These guys on the hunting shows are like every other show, they are there to sell the products who sponsor and pay for the show. I would bet that 90% of all hunters would love to be in their shoes, getting paid to travel around and hunt the best places available, you cant blame them! Having said all that I introduced my son to deer hunting and never once told him what kind of legal deer he should kill.. I think this is a growing process and I will let him decide what he wants to get out of hunting and let him set his own goals... I will never forget those days when I just wanted to kill a deer... Good post GNB and I agree 100% and I did the same. Every individual should be able to take it for what makes them happy, thats what is so good about TN, we have choices!
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#1712070 - 01/07/10 07:49 AM
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The one buck debate always seems pretty worthless since no body wants to listen to the guys that do this for a living (I'm not one of them)... I appreciate the experts' input, even though I may not always agree. But I am a realist and here's how I see it. Even though I support lower buck limits, I'm not naive enough to think we will ever be a trophy state. We may not need more mature bucks, but, as bad as some people hate it, trophy hunting is the future of our sport. Don't think for one second the next generation, after growing up with Waddel and every other hunting celebrity, will be content with the same caliber bucks we are today. Everything changes, we are crazy to think hunting will be any different. Trophy hunting is the future of our sport. It's changing already, whether you like it or not.
First of all I try to learn from the experts on here since they are the ones on here doing state wide studies and do this for a living... I see to many people that only hunt a few hundred or thousand acres and think that they know whats going on with the state deer herd, funny but true... I also know a little bit about the hunting business since I grew around coon hunting and my father owns a hunting business... I realize that deer hunting has changed a lot in the last 30 years since its now become a big business... Having said all that I introduced my son to deer hunting and never once told him what kind of legal deer he should kill.. I think this is a growing process and I will let him decide what he wants to get out of hunting and let him set his own goals... I will never forget those days when I just wanted to kill a deer... Now that I'm older, I find my self passing up some deer for different reasons but I still love hunting and I still think you can always learn something new every day...
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#1712094 - 01/07/10 08:05 AM
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this is quite possibly the most worthless thread I've seen on here due to a combination of inadequate sampling and incorrect assumption in what you are trying to prove.
Let me put it to you like this...
If EVERY single hunter in the state who harvested a buck killed their 3 buck limit, guess what the statwide average would be???
The answer would be 1.5 bucks/hunter on average, since 50% of the hunters out there never kill a single buck. There's your most accurate average.
So, in other words, we could go to a 10 buck/ yr limit and still have those who harvest a buck kill 10 per year (as long as 90% of the population does not kill a single buck) and we'd still average out 1 buck/person/yr.
A liberal limit on bucks ASSUMES and RELIES on the fact that half of the hunters won't kill a buck at all. In fact, it REQUIRES that half the hunters don't kill a buck at all, and a majority of the others restrict themselves to prevent an overharvest of the resource.
So, sure, a 3 buck limit is just fine- as long as you are the one killing the 3 bucks and your neighbors aren't. I totally agree with you on that. Every time I read this thread a get a laugh. Have no idea what this will prove. Looks to me like we should be more concerned with percentage of hunters being successful and percentage of available bucks being harvested than average number of bucks killed per hunter. All you have to do is look at harvest totals and find out have many people bought tags to get an average per hunter. Anybody can use this poll to support anything they want.
I realize this poll is not going to prove a thing... We have experts in this state that have that job already (I'm not one of them)... I just wanted to know how many hunters on TNdeer filled their buck tags... This it the site we are always debating buck limits... so why wouldn't we want to see how many hunters on this... site... have filled their buck tags... I noticed the only ones that have complained about this thread is a couple of one buck limit guys.... Let me make it clear... I never stated that I'm for a 3 buck limit.. I can tell you that I'm not in favor of a one buck limit....but in the end I will let the EXPERTS figure it out and I wil hunt with the regs TWRA puts in place...
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Hunters:51 Bucks:47
Still waiting on several to add to this survey.... How many bucks have you killed in TN this year (No draw hunts or bonus bucks)?... Come on guys, the bucks are falling behind...
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#1712246 - 01/07/10 09:07 AM
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#1712585 - 01/07/10 10:56 AM
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So far from several post we have learned this.... P.S. The reason I bring this up is because its one of the biggest debates (buck limits) on here but I think in the end, hunters do a good job of monitoring the number of bucks they kill depending on their goals... If you remeber thats from my 1st post... Many hunters have stated that they have passed on bucks and not filled their tags....
P.S. Thanks for getting so upset with a simple thread... Makes you wonder why it has given you such a bellyache... 
This survey it not going to prove any points...... You might be taken it a little too serious... Oh, by the way, I never got the number of bucks you killed this season?
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#1712898 - 01/07/10 01:24 PM
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Trophy hunting is the future of our sport. It's changing already, whether you like it or not.
I agree completely. And it SHOULD be for 99% of hunters (those who do not depend on deer meat for sustinence).
But probably not how you define 'trophy'...
Let me explain myself. In today's world, where food is readily available, and if you're too poor to afford food it is provided to you via food stamps through the US govt, deer hunting has become nothing more than a sport. Don't fool yourself or kid yourself- that is all it is. We hunt because we love the chase and the kill. But that's where 'trophy' comes in... we must still realize that in order for us to get our kicks and giggles, it often means taking the life of another creature. And (in my opinion, only) that also means we should not take it lightly. So, again (in my opinion, only), whatever we decide to kill, we should be darn proud of it and it should be considered a 'trophy'. Now what is considered a 'trophy' to each individual will be different. For some, it may very well be a yearling spike... heck, I was just as proud at the time of my first 3" spike I killed back in 1984 as my 185" buck I killed a couple years ago. For others, it may be only a mature buck, while others it may be ANY deer, doe or buck.
And that's the way deer hunting SHOULD be- the hunter is thrilled with what they've killed- whatever is or isn't on top of the deer's head.
For me, personally, I lost the excitement in killing 1.5 and 2.5 yr old bucks, because it no longer became a challenge... after a few years of only hunting 3.5 yr olds, that became boring as well. My definition of 'trophy' has changed the longer I've hunted...
but it's also important to be realistic with what one considers a 'trophy'... for example, in TN, if you base your definition of 'trophy' on gross antler scores, eventually, you will have killed so many 120-130" bucks you run out of wall space. So naturally, you want to kill 150" bucks- which now becomes a BIG problem in TN... there just aren't realistically huntable numbers of 150" bucks in TN, not only because of age, but because so few bucks have the genetic potential to grow 150" of bone, nor the nutrition to reach that potential.
So, I'm realistic with my goals- I can reasonably expect to kill a 4.5 yr old buck every other year in TN. And that's a trophy to me- and I could care less how many inches of bone he grew. I can control what I shoot, or don't shoot, but I can only slightly influence what the deer will grow on his head (through herd management, doe harvest, rotational grazing of my cattle, food plots, etc).
But others may have limited time, limited property, etc to the point where their individual realistic goal may be to take a 2.5 yr old buck, or even just any buck. And as long as they are proud and consider it a 'trophy' to them, then I'm all good with that.
Which brings me to my next point
I think in the end, hunters do a good job of monitoring the number of bucks they kill depending on their goals...
As a general rule, I believe you are correct. But I'm also a big believer in 'original Sin', or that human nature, if left unchecked, generally leads to more evil than good. In other words, it's because of a few 'bad' hunters who choose to abuse the resource, (overharvest of does or bucks on a local single property) that we need limits to protect the resource.
Most of the folks on TNdeer are avid hunters, and therefore more likely to actually know what is out there in their local herd (through trail cam census, numerous hours on treestand, living on the property, etc), but some will choose to shoot every buck they see during the season, not even knowing how many were left in the herd at the end of the season.
And I can't stand the argument, "If TWRA sets the limit at 'X', then it must be OK, and I'm going to kill 'X' ". That limit may be just fine on your property, but it could also lead to a disasterous overharvest/abuse of the resource depending on your local herd composition/density. TWRA limits must be viewed as a guideline only.
And, no, I'm not a '1 buck limit' guy, but I do think 3 is too high for many small properties in the state.
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#1712927 - 01/07/10 01:36 PM
Re: Not a one buck limit thread....
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great post mega!
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#1713065 - 01/07/10 02:13 PM
Re: Not a one buck limit thread....
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Don't think for one second the next generation, after growing up with Waddel and every other hunting celebrity, will be content with the same caliber bucks we are today. Everything changes, we are crazy to think hunting will be any different. Trophy hunting is the future of our sport. It's changing already, whether you like it or not.
I hope at the end of the day the man/dad/husband/hunter my son becomes is molded by me and not some TV personality. If not I have failed him miserably.
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