#1705823 - 01/03/10 10:31 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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smokepolemonky
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We have lots of it. We manage for it (to promote it).
How do you go about doing this?
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#1706780 - 01/04/10 03:05 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Yodel Dog
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Is japanese honeysuckle the best to plant?
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#1706796 - 01/04/10 03:17 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Is japanese honeysuckle the best to plant?
I think so. Its abundant, deer love it, its hardy and free. Cant beat that. Ive had success digging and transplanting the root balls.
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#1706890 - 01/04/10 04:09 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Quailman
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Just remember that it is a non-native invasive species. White-tailed deer did not evolve with it and do not need it to survive. Do I recommend it to landowners? No.
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#1707082 - 01/04/10 05:43 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Just remember that it is a non-native invasive species. White-tailed deer did not evolve with it and do not need it to survive. Do I recommend it to landowners? No.
On this, Quailman and I disagree. I HIGHLY recommend promoting it if it exists. Would I plant it? No. But if you don't have honeysuckle, you have too many deer. I know of few if any areas that don't have honeysuckle unless deer are eating it out of existence (and I have seen that happen many, many times).
Deer didn't evolve in expansive hardwoods forests either, but that's what we deal with now.
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#1707158 - 01/04/10 06:16 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Quailman
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But if you don't have honeysuckle, you have too many deer. I know of few if any areas that don't have honeysuckle unless deer are eating it out of existence
Not true BSK. I can show thousands of acres of properties (including my own) I've worked on that have no honeysuckle whatsoever. Why? Because it was never introduced and never allowed to spread. Is it used a late winter food source? Of course, but it is low quality. Very low in fat (that deer need at this time of year), so it is slightly above woody browse in value during the winter. It has higher nutritional values during the summer, but they are still far below what native plants offer.
So are you saying that deer need it to survive? If not, then from a biological standpoint, recommending a plant that is known to be invasive and replaces native plant species is not a wise management recommendation.
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#1707280 - 01/04/10 07:04 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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richmanbarbeque
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Very Interesting. I have none on my place that I have found. It is not because I have to many deer either. 
I have read on the qdma forum of some of the prosand cons of it. I am interested in reading more about it's nutritional value. I was under the impression that it was very high in protein and a good late season browse.
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#1707417 - 01/04/10 07:47 PM
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I am interested in reading more about it's nutritional value. I was under the impression that it was very high in protein and a good late season browse.
Up to 20% protein.
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#1707612 - 01/04/10 08:47 PM
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Quailman
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I was under the impression that it was very high in protein and a good late season browse.
RMBBQ, some of the most recent research conducted in TN showed protein levels for honeysuckle running about 13% protein (acutally 13.4%) during the growing season. I have seen levels as high as 16% (growing season) for other areas in the Southeast. This level, of course, drops off dramatically during the winter months. Also, since it is a somewhat woody plant, it has a high ADF (acid detergent fiber), which is normally around 30-35%. This means that it is not a very digestible plant.
It is a good late season food source for deer on properties that are lacking adequate nutrition during the winter months. But, eastern red cedar is as well.  When I first started managing our farm on the Plateau, most of the young cedars looked like toothpicks in the winter, because it was about the only food source available at this time. This has changed though over the last 8 years. When deer are using these types of food sources, it's normally a good sign that additional habitat improvements should be made.
Edited by Quailman (01/04/10 08:51 PM)
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#1707614 - 01/04/10 08:47 PM
Re: Who has honeysuckle?
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Farmers and foresters often consider this introduced plant a pest, while white-tailed deer managers consider honeysuckle a choice browse species.
Honeysuckle will not meet all the nutritional needs of white-tailed deer, but it can produce substantial quality forage on a yearly basis if it is properly established and/or maintained.
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