#1706685 - 01/04/10 02:04 PM
Re: TWRA graphs
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To me, it is obvious from the first few graphs I posted, hunters in Tennessee are voluntarily passing up spikes, 3 and 4s, and (to a lesser extent) 5 and 6s. They do not pass up anything with 7 or more points, and those harvest numbers continue rising. The trend of passing little antlers is continuing, and shows no sign of changing.
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#1706701 - 01/04/10 02:14 PM
Re: TWRA graphs
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It appears that the # of 1.5 yr old bucks being harvested is dropping, and contradictory to this happening, the # of 3.5's being killed is dropping as well.
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#1706709 - 01/04/10 02:19 PM
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Keep in mind that this years data is not in these graphs. It is only up to the 08/09 season. This years data won't be complete until the end of the month. The graphs can be updated and reposted again at that point.
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#1706710 - 01/04/10 02:19 PM
Re: TWRA graphs
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If 1.5's decline to meet 2.5 harvest, then inevitably 3.5 harvests should rise as well.
In theory, true. However, in reality that may not be the case.
It is surprising to me that this year with the increase in buck tags that the 1.5 year old harvest has not increased...
You aren't the only one who's surprised!
And the fact it looks like we've killed the oldest class of bucks ever in TN--after raising the limit--is a head-scratcher to say the least.
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#1706712 - 01/04/10 02:21 PM
Re: TWRA graphs
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It appears that the # of 1.5 yr old bucks being harvested is dropping, and contradictory to this happening, the # of 3.5's being killed is dropping as well.
As of the preliminary data, it appears TN hunters this year killed the largest number of 3 1/2+ bucks ever, and by a large margin.
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#1706713 - 01/04/10 02:21 PM
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Keep in mind that this years data is not in these graphs. It is only up to the 08/09 season. This years data won't be complete until the end of the month. The graphs can be updated and reposted again at that point.
Yep, and looking at this years #'s we have some new changes, like the older buck kill going up instead of down again.
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#1706736 - 01/04/10 02:34 PM
Re: TWRA graphs
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To me, it is obvious from the first few graphs I posted, hunters in Tennessee are voluntarily passing up spikes, 3 and 4s, and (to a lesser extent) 5 and 6s. They do not pass up anything with 7 or more points, and those harvest numbers continue rising. The trend of passing little antlers is continuing, and shows no sign of changing.
I wonder if the folks who are focusing on 7's or better are thinking they are targeting mature deer, while in reality they are harvesting sub-mature deer with quality racks? If they knew better they might let these walk, or maybe not.
Whatever, the trend this season is a good one, and maybe the ultra wet summer allowed for more bucks to grow an extra little bit, and that is all it could take for folks to begin to focus on larger more mature bucks.
Who knows, but from the field time I have spent last summer and this fall, the herd seems to be in great shape, other then being a little heavy on does.
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#1706746 - 01/04/10 02:41 PM
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RecurveShooter
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I think most tn hunters are are perfectly happy with 2.5 yr-old 7 and 8pt bucks.
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#1706814 - 01/04/10 03:26 PM
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I think most tn hunters are are perfectly happy with 2.5 yr-old 7 and 8pt bucks.
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#1706854 - 01/04/10 03:49 PM
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It is surprising to me that this year with the increase in buck tags that the 1.5 year old harvest has not increased... You aren't the only one who's surprised! And the fact it looks like we've killed the oldest class of bucks ever in TN-- after raising the limit--is a head-scratcher to say the least.
It could have a lot to do with the way the data was collected. How many days a year is TWRA aging bucks at check-in stations? What period of the season is this aging being done? I understand the whole idea of "sampling", but there's no way this data is accurate.
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