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#1706435 - 01/04/10 11:56 AM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: mcnairy mike]
Football Hunter
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Why such a big jump in 97?WOW people went cray killing deer that year
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#1706438 - 01/04/10 11:57 AM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: Football Hunter]
Winchester
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 Originally Posted By: Football Hunter
Why such a big jump in 97?WOW people went cray killing deer that year

98 was the year we went from 11 bucks to 2!

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#1706447 - 01/04/10 12:01 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: mcnairy mike]
mcnairy mike
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Registered: 12/28/09
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We lose enough hunters every year as it is and that would take away from hunters their personal choice because all people see on tv is HORNS and they will shoot a deer at dark( like in texas) and come back next day to spoiled meat just for the horns. I will have a hard time selling that to myself.
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#1706498 - 01/04/10 12:21 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: Winchester]
tndrbstr
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Registered: 10/06/05
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
as things have went pretty steady across the board otherwise for many years before 2007. This is where we started downhill again, and it will be interesting to see if the declines continue??


EHD?....and freaky weather...

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#1706514 - 01/04/10 12:32 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: Winchester]
megalomaniac
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 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Basically we are just cruising right along. If it wasnt for the major rule changes made statewide in 1998, these graphs would be very little to talk about, as things have went pretty steady across the board otherwise for many years before 2007. This is where we started downhill again, and it will be interesting to see if the declines continue??


There are fewer deer out there, therefore decreased harvest of all age-classes number wise.

EHD took out a bunch, then 2 yrs of consecutive drought has hurt recruitment.

Personally, I'm sticking to my long-term game plan...

So far, 12 does and 2 bucks off my farms.

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#1706521 - 01/04/10 12:36 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: megalomaniac]
tndrbstr
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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: Winchester
Basically we are just cruising right along. If it wasnt for the major rule changes made statewide in 1998, these graphs would be very little to talk about, as things have went pretty steady across the board otherwise for many years before 2007. This is where we started downhill again, and it will be interesting to see if the declines continue??


There are fewer deer out there, therefore decreased harvest of all age-classes number wise.

EHD took out a bunch, then 2 yrs of consecutive drought has hurt recruitment.

Personally, I'm sticking to my long-term game plan...

So far, 12 does and 2 bucks off my farms.


If this weather pattern that we had this season continues (09) for the next two or three,.. things could rebound damaticly....

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#1706531 - 01/04/10 12:40 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: megalomaniac]
AlanP
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There is a lot of information in those graphs. And, there are different ways to interpret what some of them mean. For instance...

One graph shows the percentage of button bucks, in the antlerless harvest, is declining. Is that because hunters are passing up button bucks, or is it because the number of fawns born/surviving is declining? Are coyotes taking a higher percentage of fawns, or, since the deer population is higher than it was decades ago, are does not having as many babies? There is room for a lot of arguments in these graphs.
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#1706546 - 01/04/10 12:45 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: AlanP]
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Looks like the #of 3.5's being taken is steadily climbing,I guess one could assume the # of 4.5's and older might also be climbing?
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#1706554 - 01/04/10 12:48 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: AlanP]
Winchester
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There is room for a lot of arguments in these graphs.

Amen to that, the #'s can be made to look many many different ways as well. The Data and graphs are great, but they can and will be interpreted in so many different ways, even by those working together! ;\)

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#1706648 - 01/04/10 01:40 PM Re: TWRA graphs [Re: Winchester]
Setterman
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If 1.5's decline to meet 2.5 harvest, then inevitably 3.5 harvests should rise as well.

It is surprising to me that this year with the increase in buck tags that the 1.5 year old harvest has not increased, and last I checked it was lower then last year which is good news.

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