#1704820 - 01/03/10 12:55 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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That deer is a stud.
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#1704822 - 01/03/10 12:58 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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How many acres do you hunt? It is hard to figure that you know the deer so well and haven't seen him this season in the daylight.
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#1704828 - 01/03/10 01:01 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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warrent423
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I don't worry about such things.
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#1704925 - 01/03/10 02:06 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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They also may be missing those horns.
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#1704936 - 01/03/10 02:14 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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How many acres do you hunt? It is hard to figure that you know the deer so well and haven't seen him this season in the daylight.
Not sure how many acres he has but BSK's deer are like his kids. 
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#1704967 - 01/03/10 02:40 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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good info
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#1704971 - 01/03/10 02:40 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Good point, and well taken!
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#1704991 - 01/03/10 03:01 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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BSK,
Thanks for the reminder and like always good info.
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#1705000 - 01/03/10 03:11 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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I wouldn't be able to field judge that one at any time. I would have a stroke if he walked out in front of me.
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#1705012 - 01/03/10 03:21 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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#1705048 - 01/03/10 03:43 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Thats good info, but I can't field judge age. This is my field judging: 1) too little 2)give him another year 3)hes pretty good 4) hes a shooter 5) dammed almighty
If he's in the 4 or 5 range im goona try to do something with him.
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#1705226 - 01/03/10 05:41 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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nice deer and good pics
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#1705302 - 01/03/10 06:27 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Just wanted to mention for those that either field-judge the age of bucks in trail-cam pictures or those that do so while hunting: be careful of field-judging age this far post-rut. Bucks--especially active breeding bucks--can lose a tremedous amount of weight during the rut. Even penned bucks have been documented losing 30% of their body weight during the rut chasing does round and round inside the pen. The "rules" for field-judging buck age are based on buck body-shape just before and at peak rut. Since many of the older bucks have lost weight during the rut, they can look younger than they really are. Even big bulked up mature bucks can look very different from early November to late December and into January. Here's a perfect example. Here's one of the mature bucks (5 1/2) I've been chasing and getting trail-cam pictures of. Here he is in early November, with all the classic massive chest and neck of a fully mature buck:  But here he is as of Dec. 30. He's lost a lot of weight, especially in his neck and chest. If this were the only picture I had of this buck I would say he is no older than 4 1/2: 
Yeah, I might of passed on him looking at the second pic, LOL. I couldn't pull the trigger fast enough on that one... I would of probably never got past the horns to look at the body..
BSK... Maybe that ole boy will show himself next year... Smart buck..
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#1705329 - 01/03/10 06:42 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Good post BSK!
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#1705632 - 01/03/10 08:40 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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i would be ground judging that one if i saw it.
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#1705843 - 01/03/10 10:48 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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How many acres do you hunt? It is hard to figure that you know the deer so well and haven't seen him this season in the daylight.
500 acres. But not a single buck that uses the property lives completely within the confines of the property. All bucks (and probably all deer) are shared with neighbors.
This particular buck, once he turned 5 1/2, went completely nocturnal. I got over 40 pictures of him this year from August until just the last few days, yet I never got a single picture of him during daylight. I got pictures of him at salt licks, in food plots, along old logging roads, at scrapes and entering and leaving sanctuaries, yet every picture was at night.
I passed him up when he was 3 1/2, we got daylight pictures of him at 4 1/2 but never saw him (although a neighbor shot at him twice with a bow and missed both times), and we again never saw him this year, with no daylight pictures. No neighbors saw him either.
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#1705847 - 01/03/10 10:53 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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They also may be missing those horns.
If your deer are healthy, they will hold their antlers until spring. Antler drop timing--over a wide range of bucks--is an excellent indicator of herd health.
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#1706487 - 01/04/10 12:19 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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WOW! Great post!
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#1706502 - 01/04/10 12:24 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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that is a monster good luck
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#1706532 - 01/04/10 12:42 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Well said !
good post Bryan - good info -
ferg....
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#1707443 - 01/04/10 07:54 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Cool post.
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#1707445 - 01/04/10 07:54 PM
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Great post!
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#1707833 - 01/04/10 10:51 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Good Post,Maybe they will decide to come out in daylight one day.
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#1708025 - 01/05/10 07:23 AM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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That would be a lot of mass for what he looks like in that picture (2 1/2). I bet a picture earlier in the year (late October/early November) would have told a different story.
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#1708076 - 01/05/10 08:02 AM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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good thread, and I agree. He kind of looks 2.5, but I am betting he is older.
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#1708497 - 01/05/10 11:56 AM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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looks like hes scarred up on nose he must have a big brother
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#1708568 - 01/05/10 12:48 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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That would be a lot of mass for what he looks like in that picture (2 1/2). I bet a picture earlier in the year (late October/early November) would have told a different story.
This buck in the picture also goes along with your other thread as "post rut shifter". What an odd year.
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#1708573 - 01/05/10 12:51 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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That would be a lot of mass for what he looks like in that picture (2 1/2). I bet a picture earlier in the year (late October/early November) would have told a different story. This buck in the picture also goes along with your other thread as "post rut shifter". What an odd year.
Here's an even crazier observation. I got pics of a couple of bucks working the heck out of scrapes at New Years. Crazy, crazy, crazy...
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#1708584 - 01/05/10 12:55 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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I have 4 active scrapes on my place right now, two of which have popped up in the last 2 weeks.
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#1708587 - 01/05/10 12:57 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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I walked in to my hunting spot this past Saturday afternoon along an old logging road that runs through a creek bottom, and 3 of the scrapes that have been there since muzzleloader season were cleaned out and being used. Never seen that before this time of year!
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#1708616 - 01/05/10 01:17 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Not only do I have pics of bucks working the scrapes, I have does coming in and sniffing the freshly worked scrapes. Something is going on...
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#1708645 - 01/05/10 01:29 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Three years ago I watched a little 6 pter make a new scrape out of the window of my house..... oh yeah, it was in March!!!!
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#1708754 - 01/05/10 02:42 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Three years ago I watched a little 6 pter make a new scrape out of the window of my house..... oh yeah, it was in March!!!!
That was probably associated with new antler growth.
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#1708865 - 01/05/10 03:39 PM
Re: Be careful field-judging age at this time of year
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Not only do I have pics of bucks working the scrapes, I have does coming in and sniffing the freshly worked scrapes. Something is going on...
same here........????
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