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#1444916 - 08/08/09 05:25 PM End of the Caney?
B.D.
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Rivergauges.com provides a real-time temperature gauge at the Stonewall Bridge. The river is getting warmer every day.

August 5 it peaked at 65.

August 6 it peaked at 67.

August 7 it peaked at 69.

August 8 (today) it peaked at 72.

Somewhere around 75 is lethal temperature for trout. We've got at least two months before the water on the lake side gets down below 75, so it doesn't look good.

Are we out of cold water and witnessing the last few days before the Caney trout fishery dies for the year?

bd

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#1444963 - 08/08/09 06:45 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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That is scary... but interesting. Is this unusual or is it an annual occurence?

I appreciate the tip about Rivergauges.com That's a new one on me.

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#1444967 - 08/08/09 06:52 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: rsimms]
B.D.
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It usually does not get that warm. Last year I don't think the Stonewall gauge ever got above 58 degrees.

I am worried that the big rain in May and the other big one in July may have blown us through our cold water supply for the year. I sent an e-mail to the Corps asking what kind of deep-water temps they're seeing above the Dam, but I don't expect to hear back before late next week.

Rivergauges is one of the most useful sites around if you are a river and stream fisherman. They have flow information for a lot of streams you can't find anywhere else.

bd


Edited by Brian Dunigan (08/08/09 06:53 PM)

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#1445201 - 08/08/09 09:39 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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I was wondering about that. But... think about the fish migration downstream. Looking for big fish? Think downhill where there are more deep holes.
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#1445224 - 08/08/09 09:50 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: bowriter]
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There might be some mortality, but they are adaptable and will move to survive. There might be a temp. of 75 in one place but there will be cooler water in different current sections. The lay of the river bottom has an effect on temp too. They will seek those spots. Expect them in deep holes and along rock bottoms lodged in between them.

Edited by Velocity kills (08/08/09 09:50 PM)

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#1445446 - 08/09/09 07:41 AM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: Velocity kills]
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I had a report yesterday of a 26 fish catch on Friday from a launch at the dam. I guess it isn't hurting them too much. But now is fine time to put in at Carthage and run upstream a ways.
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#1445858 - 08/09/09 02:56 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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I fished Sat. and Sunday morning's and caught lots of fish. The web page that I check the temp at StoneWall doesn't show the temp being out of the 60's. 69 is the highest and the temp for Aug 8th shows 65.66. Of course I don't know when the temp is taken. So it could have gotten warmer after this temp was posted.

This morning from 9 to 930 I caught 5 Brown's that were 16 inches. They seemed very healthy. Sat. my son and I caught about 40 fish. This morning I caught about 25 by myself.
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#1446453 - 08/09/09 10:20 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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 Originally Posted By: Brian Dunigan
Rivergauges.com provides a real-time temperature gauge at the Stonewall Bridge. The river is getting warmer every day.

August 5 it peaked at 65.

August 6 it peaked at 67.

August 7 it peaked at 69.

August 8 (today) it peaked at 72.

Somewhere around 75 is lethal temperature for trout. We've got at least two months before the water on the lake side gets down below 75, so it doesn't look good.

Are we out of cold water and witnessing the last few days before the Caney trout fishery dies for the year?

bd


Thats probably the temp before the generation hits and cools it down to 50 again.

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#1447580 - 08/10/09 06:22 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: holstonangler]
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Pretty good site...I just checked it and it says the water level dropped 599.60 feet in the last 24 hours. I wouldn't have known that if I hadn't checked.
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#1447757 - 08/10/09 08:20 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: holstonangler]
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 Originally Posted By: holstonangler

Thats probably the temp before the generation hits and cools it down to 50 again.


You can plot out the temp here:

http://www2.mvr.usace.army.mil/WaterControl/stationinfo2.cfm?sid=CFST1&fid=&dt=S

Even with generation, we aren't getting anywhere close to 50 this year. Generation has been dropping the temp to the mid-60s but that's it. It ran a little cooler today but still didn't get below 62.

I fished yesterday and did well in the upper river, but it was very slow downstream from Congo. The water obviously warms a little as it moves downstream, especially below the Smith Fork influx.

Still, if we get a sustained warming trend, we'll eventually hit a temp where the trout can't tolerate it. My gut feeling is that we're one heavy rain away from a lot of problems.

bd


Edited by Brian Dunigan (08/10/09 08:21 PM)

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#1447767 - 08/10/09 08:23 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
I was wondering about that. But... think about the fish migration downstream. Looking for big fish? Think downhill where there are more deep holes.


All the big fish aren't downstream. I saw one yesterday that would easily go 15 lbs less than a mile from the dam.

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#1449182 - 08/11/09 07:22 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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Not sure where you have been or if you have been reading this site lately but I wanted to give you a heads up that looking for trouble will definately find it for you and VERY little will be tolerated. Thank you and carry on.

Edited by RUGER (08/13/09 11:38 AM)

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#1450310 - 08/12/09 02:17 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: stillinscrubs]
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W/e, Scrubs. Like I said before, let it go.

I spend much more time on the upper river than I do on the lower end. Biggest Caney trout I've ever caught was within sight of Happy Hollow. The bigger fish aren't in some "secret spot" downriver where nobody goes - people just don't know how to fish for them.

If I really were as devious as you think, I'd post a bunch of grip-and-grin pictures and glowing reports, and I'd send everybody on the Internet down to South Carthage where the river is about 75 degrees right now.

Then they wouldn't catch anything, and they'd all go to the Clinch instead.

bd


Edited by Brian Dunigan (08/12/09 03:10 PM)

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#1451508 - 08/13/09 09:30 AM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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LMAO...Unscrubbed is back.
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#1452510 - 08/13/09 08:47 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
LMAO...Unscrubbed is back.


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#1453219 - 08/14/09 11:14 AM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: shorefisherman]
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Temp is looking a little better over the last few days. Hope it hangs on.

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#1455384 - 08/16/09 01:59 PM Re: End of the Caney? [Re: B.D.]
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I waded it today. I decided I wanted numb ankles so I left waders and boots at home. It wasn't cold at all. Not like I remember 4 years ago being the first time I stepped foot in that river. But I did catch a 18 inch rainbow \:D best yet for me.
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