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#1345242 - 05/28/09 09:40 AM Tweaking Decoys
4onaside
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The season has ended and I'm not ready to quit. It occured to me that I have never seen a turkeys legs that were black, yet I have never seen a decoy stake that was anything but black. But "ballet slippers" aint the right shade of pink(dries almost white). "Watermelon" looks like the real deal. As Outdoor host Oneal Williams says, "I'm ready, are you?".
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#1345428 - 05/28/09 11:30 AM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: 4onaside]
captain hook
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One aspect of new era turkey hunting that concerns me to no extent. You don't need decoys anyway, and I am sure leg color is of little importance.

Guess if all I did was sit in a blind and stare at a hunk of plastic I would want to do something to make myself feel like I had some part of making the birds commit ;\) \:\)
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#1345541 - 05/28/09 12:21 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: captain hook]
4onaside
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Tell you what, why don't you leave all of your calls at home next time you go, and I'll leave my decoys at home, and calls too! I believe that I would continue to kill turkeys on my place without either, and without much drop, if any, in my success rate. Can you honestly say the same? And if you don't believe in state of the art equipment, however you hunt, then I'm sure that you are gunned with a .410 and low brass #8's. And I would say that you probably wear a white dress shirt afield, but I've seen your picture in that absolutely necessary camo clothing(I wear blue jeans and a blue denim shirt most of the time). LOL
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#1345587 - 05/28/09 12:47 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: 4onaside]
Lawrence
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I have a couple of the feaher flex decoys and have used paint markers to touch them up. Its alot cheaper than buying new ones
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#1345652 - 05/28/09 01:07 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: 4onaside]
captain hook
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
Tell you what, why don't you leave all of your calls at home next time you go, and I'll leave my decoys at home, and calls too! I believe that I would continue to kill turkeys on my place without either, and without much drop, if any, in my success rate. Can you honestly say the same? And if you don't believe in state of the art equipment, however you hunt, then I'm sure that you are gunned with a .410 and low brass #8's. And I would say that you probably wear a white dress shirt afield, but I've seen your picture in that absolutely necessary camo clothing(I wear blue jeans and a blue denim shirt most of the time). LOL


No, I can't say the same. I don't hunt woodlot field birds which can be patterned. I hunt huge woods and mountain sides, where birds are almost unable to be patterned.

There is necessary advancements for ethical reasons, and then advancements for obvious reasons, i.e. camo clothing.

Then there are advancements designed to make success possible for folks who couldn't or wouldn't kill much other then time without their aid. Turkey calls have been around for eons, and so have decoys, but the full strut decoy craze on fields with blinds basically takes all the challenge out of killing turkeys. I have seen it done, and is laughable how easy it is.

However, to each their own, hence the reason I put the smilies in my original post, but do not confuse decoy hunting full strut style with the style of turkey hunting which pits proper set-up, calling, and woodsmanship out in the open against a longbeard. The two are not the same, and the challenges certainly are not comparable.

I wouldn't consider a .410 and low brass #8's low tech, I would consider that unethical BTW.
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#1345719 - 05/28/09 01:55 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: captain hook]
4onaside
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Well, I do pattern them on my own place, and a jake or hen deke and a call just says "hey, I'm a turkey, here I am, come on over". So they do help me kill turkeys. However, there are a couple of funnels that I can watch which I know that birds come thru daily and kill one without making a sound, just like deer hunting. But, I'm not going to handicap my success possibilites just to prove a point. Either the call/and or the deke at least seal the deal that he knows the location of another turkey. And I enjoy the different deke combos, what works best and when. There are two dekes that I do not own, one a full strut, and the other a jake fanning that I am thinking of trying next time around, particularly since you highly endorse the effectiveness of the full strut type. But whatever dekes that I use will have the right color legs! As dumb as turkeys really are though,they can't distinguish between a rubber turkey and the real thing even at point blank range, a flame orange deke would probably work OK. After all, how many things have you seen in nature wearing blue jeans and a blue denim shirt? It apparently doesn't bother them, so why should a flame orange deke bother them? LOL
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#1345992 - 05/28/09 05:20 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: 4onaside]
captain hook
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Well that might be as unrealistic of an analogy as I have read in a while \:\)

Sniping turkeys is not turkey hunting, it is turkey killing, which is it makes you happy then have at it. But the challenge and lore of turkey hunting is calling a bird into gun range and outsmarting him on his turf with a call and a proper set-up. Sniping him as he walks by is a means to an end, but ask yourself is it about the kill or the hunt?
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#1346021 - 05/28/09 06:04 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: captain hook]
bsl
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
One aspect of new era turkey hunting that concerns me to no extent. You don't need decoys anyway, and I am sure leg color is of little importance.

Guess if all I did was sit in a blind and stare at a hunk of plastic I would want to do something to make myself feel like I had some part of making the birds commit ;\) \:\)




Why do you have to post crap like this?Does it make you feel like more of a hunter than others.I am so tired of you attacking people and then posting stuff about Tn hunters being rude to you.Ithought you were gonna try to respect people more but I guess that didn't last long.I just can't understand why you have to try to run others down.

I hunt the woods also and don't use decoys much.But I dam sure don't try to act like I am better than someone sitting on a field.i also don't understand why you think decoys are are sure kill.I know a lot of people who use them that don't have turkey run into them.I have talked to a lot of people who say they have spooked as many with them as they have killed.I just wish you would not talk down to everyone like you do.

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#1346100 - 05/28/09 07:36 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: bsl]
WingNut
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 Originally Posted By: bsl
 Originally Posted By: captain hook
One aspect of new era turkey hunting that concerns me to no extent. You don't need decoys anyway, and I am sure leg color is of little importance.

Guess if all I did was sit in a blind and stare at a hunk of plastic I would want to do something to make myself feel like I had some part of making the birds commit ;\) \:\)




Why do you have to post crap like this?Does it make you feel like more of a hunter than others.I am so tired of you attacking people and then posting stuff about Tn hunters being rude to you.Ithought you were gonna try to respect people more but I guess that didn't last long.I just can't understand why you have to try to run others down.

I hunt the woods also and don't use decoys much.But I dam sure don't try to act like I am better than someone sitting on a field.i also don't understand why you think decoys are are sure kill.I know a lot of people who use them that don't have turkey run into them.I have talked to a lot of people who say they have spooked as many with them as they have killed.I just wish you would not talk down to everyone like you do.


It makes him feel better about himself. But hey who am I. According to him I hunt the Butterball Turkey factory that is Marshall County where every Tom Dick and Harry can kill their limit. What a joke. He has no clue. Just let him post crap and boost his ego because after all he is the best turkey hunter in the whole state and if you dont do it his way it isn't right.
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#1346165 - 05/28/09 08:30 PM Re: Tweaking Decoys [Re: WingNut]
4onaside
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My intent for the post was to give any do-it-yourselfers on here that like to piddle with their gear an idea that I tried, simple and easy, not to debate the use of decoys or to be told that those of us who do are not true hunters. But the king needs to understand that it is a war or even a battle that he cannot win, because probably far more TURKEY HUNTERS use decoys nowadays than don't. I imagine that Will Primos and Knight and Hale and the others could give us their decoy sales numbers that would curl your eyelashes! And man, those pink legs sure look good!
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