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#1338730 - 05/23/09 09:48 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: captain hook]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
4onaside, he is confusing me with you, I have kept hundreds if not thousands of 10" crappie over the last years. Sue me...
Sometimes your and my philosophies don't completely mesh, but from reading your posts I know that you are a fine turkey hunter and I really respect that. If I don't necessarily agree with you on a post, I don't call you names, and I don't expect that either from any mature individual. He's going into the lier, lier pants on fire defense. LOL
Incidentally, there is nothing that I would rather do than catch a crappie on an ultra light with a jig. And I have caught thousands that way. And, I don't keep them, mainly because I don't want to fool with them. But when my son goes with me, ah that's another matter. He keeps them......and fillets them.....and fries them........and I eat them! The best fish around, particularly when you just have to catch them and eat them with no hassle in between.
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#1338743 - 05/23/09 10:20 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: deerlawyer]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
4, i am sure this eludes you, but to me "quality" in a turkey hunt would include lots of mature birds and lots of good gobbling. in case you didn't know, the two go together. so, listen closely, to manage for that you would protect the jakes and hens, because the jakes become toms. i know this is really complicated but i don't mind explaining it for you.
Thanks for your patience in explaining all of that to me. I know that it is frustrating dealing with people who don't have the intellect that you possess, well at least as seen by you. However, the part that I am really having trouble understanding is a who cannot talk without talking down to someone. I apologized to you on PM which was obviously a serious error in judgement on my part. My first reaction to you and about you was apparently the correct one.
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#1338989 - 05/24/09 11:24 AM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: 4onaside]
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4- I feel your pain. deerlawyer is an amazing person. Expert on all subjects. There is nothing he doesn't know and has no problem talking down to people. Master outdoorsman with no people skills.
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#1339033 - 05/24/09 12:08 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: TurkeyBurd]
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i hunt a large tract of public land in morgan co. :X several years ago it was nothing to hear 5 or 6 gobblers every morning. now most mornings you hear none. to my knowledge(very few people hunt this place and we all pretty much know each other) there have been a grand total of 7 turkeys killed off this place since i started hunting it(15+ yrs ago). where did all these turkeys go? it wasn't hunters.
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#1339419 - 05/24/09 08:45 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: stik]
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stik,
Last year, 2008 Spring, I hunted turkey in my favorite area. An area I know WELL. I heard ONE gobbler ALL season. I killed ZERO. And I hunted ALL over several counties. It was the worst season I ever had.
This year...same areas....POLAR opposite.
I heard and worked MANY mature birds, and killed THREE!

My buddies had simila luck last year, and killed 3 or 4 each this year.

THe birds were there last season also, they just did not gobble.

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#1339485 - 05/24/09 09:14 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: deerlawyer]
CopperHead77
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
4, i am sure this eludes you, but to me "quality" in a turkey hunt would include lots of mature birds and lots of good gobbling. in case you didn't know, the two go together. so, listen closely, to manage for that you would protect the jakes and hens, because the jakes become toms. i know this is really complicated but i don't mind explaining it for you.


WOW.......thats..ahhhhh nevermind \:\)
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#1339524 - 05/24/09 09:31 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: stik]
captain hook
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 Originally Posted By: stik
i hunt a large tract of public land in morgan co. :X several years ago it was nothing to hear 5 or 6 gobblers every morning. now most mornings you hear none. to my knowledge(very few people hunt this place and we all pretty much know each other) there have been a grand total of 7 turkeys killed off this place since i started hunting it(15+ yrs ago). where did all these turkeys go? it wasn't hunters.


Stik, I haunt scott, campbell and claiborne counties on public land that get little if any pressure. I have experienced the same thing, and like I said during this season my issues weren't created from hunting pressure.

Several things came together, poor hatches, droughts, hard late freezes etc etc. And drove the populations into the ditch.

All the while TWRA kept raising limits and kept raising limits, and inevitably a problem may have become a devasting event.

Now in the remote places this season, there were birds, but with the monster hatch from last year and few mature gobblers remaining from previous years it left ample hens for the few gobblers around. Thus little if any gobbling, and tough hunting all around. Of all the LB's I watched die in this part of the state this year, none had spurs smaller then 1.25", and that just doesn't happen very often without a major gap in populations.

I think 2 things have happened, the population took a major down turn, about the same time we upped the limit to ridiculous levels, thus causing things to get worse. In other words a poor management decision based on the timing of uncontrollable natural events. You certainly wouldn't go on a spending spree if you only had $1 in your checking account, but a pocket full of checks...
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#1339584 - 05/24/09 10:07 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: stik]
bsl
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 Originally Posted By: stik
i hunt a large tract of public land in morgan co. :X several years ago it was nothing to hear 5 or 6 gobblers every morning. now most mornings you hear none. to my knowledge(very few people hunt this place and we all pretty much know each other) there have been a grand total of 7 turkeys killed off this place since i started hunting it(15+ yrs ago). where did all these turkeys go? it wasn't hunters.



That is what I have been try to tell people but they still think it is the 4 bird limit.The hatch has been down(until last year)the turkey pop. is down because of that.There were a lot of jakes killed this year because of the good hatch and know they are saying we killed to many jakes.We just need several good years of hatches in a row and everyone will shut up about the turkey.

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#1339588 - 05/24/09 10:08 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: bsl]
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 Originally Posted By: bsl
 Originally Posted By: stik
i hunt a large tract of public land in morgan co. :X several years ago it was nothing to hear 5 or 6 gobblers every morning. now most mornings you hear none. to my knowledge(very few people hunt this place and we all pretty much know each other) there have been a grand total of 7 turkeys killed off this place since i started hunting it(15+ yrs ago). where did all these turkeys go? it wasn't hunters.



That is what I have been try to tell people but they still think it is the 4 bird limit.The hatch has been down(until last year)the turkey pop. is down because of that.There were a lot of jakes killed this year because of the good hatch and know they are saying we killed to many jakes.We just need several good years of hatches in a row and everyone will shut up about the turkey.


BSL, if that is the case then why isnt Wayne County KY showing the same results we are? Are they having good hatches up there just a few miles away while we are having crappy hatches? \:D I just want to reiterate this again, anytime you take over %30 of your standing population of male birds, it is not good for the population, great hatch or not. OR maybe those Wayne County hunters are just superior turkey hunters compared to us \:D


Edited by steven stone (05/24/09 10:18 PM)
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#1339590 - 05/24/09 10:09 PM Re: What says TWRA about this... [Re: TurkeyBurd]
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 Originally Posted By: TurkeyBurd
4- I feel your pain. deerlawyer is an amazing person. Expert on all subjects. There is nothing he doesn't know and has no problem talking down to people. Master outdoorsman with no people skills.


yep.He is very rude to people on here.There is no point in trying to explain things to him because he knows it all.I just hate how he tries to talk down to people like you said.

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