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#1335834 - 05/21/09 11:55 AM Re: anti jake folks [Re: WingNut]
turkeyhunter
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I agree wingnut. My dad wants me to bring him a jake each season. He tells me all the time you have enough beards and spurs on the wall, kill some turkeys to eat.lol When I tell hunting stories about letting the jakes go he gets mad. I told him to go with me and I will let him shootem.
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#1335837 - 05/21/09 11:58 AM Re: anti jake folks [Re: turkeyhunter]
captain hook
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Jakes taste the same as longbeards. There is no difference other then available meat on the bird. Not a valid argument for shooting jakes. If you want to shoot a jake, then shoot a jake, but don't try and make it out like they taste better, it just doesn't hold water IMO.
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#1335974 - 05/21/09 12:47 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: captain hook]
turkeyhunter
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I beg to differ. I guess it has to with tenderness. They do taste the same , but a jake is much more tender. Much easier to cut up also. I cut them in strips the size of my thum.I fry them up, I call it popcorn turkey. Just like I had much rather have a young deer tender loin. A big gobbler is about as good as it gets, but a jake is better to me in the frying pan.
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#1335987 - 05/21/09 12:54 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: turkeyhunter]
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I know an oldtimer that I work with. I say oldtimer he can out run, out hunt, out fish most people I know. He is retireing this year. But anyway, he kills 3 long beards each seasons. Gives them to various people family friends what not. He will kill one jake for he and his wife each year to finish the season. Why, he says it is the better bird to eat .
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#1336017 - 05/21/09 01:06 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: captain hook]
RS
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
One thing is a guarantee with me, and I am as law abiding as they come. If a mature gobbler is standing in front of me with no beard, he is getting killed, period. I will call the GW myself and let him decide what do with me and my bird.

Hate to be blunt, but in this rugged terrain, often times there is not much time to mull over decisions. Usually it is male bird.....boom. I have only been bit once on the jake thing, but I am sure there are more to come. Maybe if I hunted fields with decoys and a blind it wouldn't ever happen....


You contradict yourself there a little bit don't you captain hook? How can you say you're "as law abiding as they come" but yet you would totally disregard the law and shoot if a mature bird didn't have a beard?

Let's change species for a moment. Say you're deer hunting in your rugged terrain during buck only season and a fully mature buck walks up (4.5+ years) that has it's antlers broken off 1.5 inches above it's head. Now you know the regs state that antlers have to be 3 inches. Based on your above comment, am I right in saying you would shoot this buck?

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#1336023 - 05/21/09 01:10 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: captain hook]
WingNut
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
Jakes taste the same as longbeards. There is no difference other then available meat on the bird. Not a valid argument for shooting jakes. If you want to shoot a jake, then shoot a jake, but don't try and make it out like they taste better, it just doesn't hold water IMO.


Not trying to make an argument about which one taste better. I have killed jakes that were bigger then some long beards I can guarantee that. They all eat the same to me. If you want to shoot a jake go for it, kill everyone of them if you want to its not against the law, but dont complain about not being able to kill long beards the next couple of years. The reason people have all these good pics to post is because they probably practice proper management and let the jakes walk. If you want to fill your tag with jakes, great it doesn't make you any less of a hunter then the guy who killed four toms.
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#1336037 - 05/21/09 01:21 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: WingNut]
turkeyhunter
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Less filling ! lol Once again I agree wingnut.
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#1336057 - 05/21/09 01:28 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: turkeyhunter]
WingNut
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Thanks turkeyhunter.
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#1336311 - 05/21/09 04:33 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: RS]
captain hook
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 Originally Posted By: RS
 Originally Posted By: captain hook
One thing is a guarantee with me, and I am as law abiding as they come. If a mature gobbler is standing in front of me with no beard, he is getting killed, period. I will call the GW myself and let him decide what do with me and my bird.

Hate to be blunt, but in this rugged terrain, often times there is not much time to mull over decisions. Usually it is male bird.....boom. I have only been bit once on the jake thing, but I am sure there are more to come. Maybe if I hunted fields with decoys and a blind it wouldn't ever happen....


You contradict yourself there a little bit don't you captain hook? How can you say you're "as law abiding as they come" but yet you would totally disregard the law and shoot if a mature bird didn't have a beard?

Let's change species for a moment. Say you're deer hunting in your rugged terrain during buck only season and a fully mature buck walks up (4.5+ years) that has it's antlers broken off 1.5 inches above it's head. Now you know the regs state that antlers have to be 3 inches. Based on your above comment, am I right in saying you would shoot this buck?


Interesting question, and no I would not shoot the deer. Being a crazed deer manager, I look for maturity, but would be lying if I said antlers didn't matter at all in the equation.

The turkey dies, no question about it, and I know I contradicted myself. However, I have not broken the law yet, and doubt it will ever happen. I cannot recall ever seeing a mature bird without any sort of beard. I have seen bucks as you describe though.
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#1336692 - 05/21/09 09:06 PM Re: anti jake folks [Re: captain hook]
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My neighbor on the south with 311 acres, told me yesterday that the only birds they killed this season were two bearded hens. I have never understood that, other than I suppose, the telling of the tale. These gals lay eggs and raise broods just like any hens, and they killed a bunch of generations of turkeys with two shots. IMO makes the jake/no jake discussion rather meaningless.
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