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#1333769 - 05/19/09 09:06 PM Turkey limit question / poll
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I read the turkey kill number thread and it got me to thinking. I know that is dangerous.
Read some very good points and discussion on that thread. Also read some very ignorant stuff as well.
ANYWAY....
I was just wondering.
I would like some input but in order to keep any resemblance of order to it the discussion needs to be on another thread or it will be impossible to keep track of it.
My question is this, and I ain't real sure how the best way to ask it is.
Also, remember that bag limits are set for the ANIMAL, not THE HUNTER.

Guess I will go with the multiple choice and hopefully I will get them close enough to "right" that everyone can pick one, or two that they would feel comfortable presenting to the TWRC for future season setting.

1) No change to present bag limits statewide.
2) Reduce statewide limit to 3 birds, no change to fall season.
3) Reduce statewide limit to 2 birds, no change to fall season.
4) Reduce statewide limit to 3 birds, change fall season to 1 bird, hen only.
5) Reduce statewide limit to 2 birds, change fall season to 1 bird, hen only.
6) Leave spring season as is and remove fall hunts all together.
7) Reduce spring season limit to 3, outlaw killing of jakes or limit it to 1 jake only.
8) Reduce spring season limit to 2, outlaw killing of jakes or limit it to 1 jake only.
9) Increase limit to 5 statewide, no change to fall season.
10) Increase limit to 5 statewide and eliminate fall season.


There ya go, ten choices. Any of them something you would like to see presented to the TWRC to try and get it changed to help protect the birds in the future?

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#1333798 - 05/19/09 09:18 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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I like #8, allow 1 jake.
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#1333801 - 05/19/09 09:19 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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8. + knock out the fall hunts during the poor hatch years.
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#1333810 - 05/19/09 09:24 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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7 I dont see the purpose of fall hunts?
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#1333813 - 05/19/09 09:27 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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#1333824 - 05/19/09 09:34 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: TW]
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4 and 7 combined would be good.
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#1333844 - 05/19/09 09:40 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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So now we're talking the QTMA. \:D

Seriously, for me personally I'd say a combination of #5 and #8. Two birds total in spring with no more than 1 jake and then 1 hen only in fall. Biologically I have no idea what's right.
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#1333863 - 05/19/09 09:50 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Gravey]
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#1333869 - 05/19/09 09:54 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Gravey]
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I'm gonna vote for # 1 simply because thats what the folks who are alot smarter than me when it comes to turkey biology have set it at.
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#1333874 - 05/19/09 09:57 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1 preferably, #2 acceptable, except in either case, no hens, ever.
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#1333900 - 05/19/09 10:08 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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I'll go with #7. with limit jakes to 1.
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#1333906 - 05/19/09 10:10 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: bigdog7mm]
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#9 There are more than enough birds out there.
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#1333926 - 05/19/09 10:23 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Carlos Viagra]
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#3

I'd be happy with 3 birds a year if it meant more gobbling. As for the no jakes, I just don't see how that is possible. Sometimes you just kill a jake, it happens, sometimes they come gobbling, running, and carrying on and if they aren't strutting or you can't see the beard.... well bang!

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#1333973 - 05/19/09 10:54 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: TNDOC]
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#2,but outlaw killing of jakes except for the kids.
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#1333982 - 05/19/09 11:02 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1333983 - 05/19/09 11:03 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Dodgeball]
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#1334001 - 05/19/09 11:16 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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#1334011 - 05/19/09 11:37 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#9 no jakes more hens
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#1334029 - 05/20/09 01:08 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#11 no closed season-no limit either sex \:\/ ;\)
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#1334034 - 05/20/09 04:50 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: stik]
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#1334090 - 05/20/09 06:14 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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I like #7 but #1 works for me as well.
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#1334124 - 05/20/09 06:55 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Bow Hunter]
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Because I want my son and daughter to hammer them like I have when it comes their time, I've taken the #7 stance. However, in a perfect world, I would drop it to 3 birds, no jakes except for the Juvy hunts and do away with fall season all together.
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#1334136 - 05/20/09 07:03 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: stretch]
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 Originally Posted By: stretch
I'm gonna vote for # 1 simply because thats what the folks who are alot smarter than me when it comes to turkey biology have set it at.


1) No change to present bag limits statewide

AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!

Not an option on the poll but I think if Tenn. ended each spring day's hunt at 12:00 Central/1:00 DST like Mo. the gobbling would increase and less hens would be bumped off the nest.
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#1334147 - 05/20/09 07:11 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Bow Hunter]
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2) Reduce statewide limit to 3 birds, no change to fall season.
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#1334152 - 05/20/09 07:15 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#4 or #5 and only allow 1 jake. But put this spin on it.... allow juvy hunters to take any bird that they want.... long-beard, jake, or hen.
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#1334153 - 05/20/09 07:15 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1334195 - 05/20/09 07:47 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Buck Assassin]
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1 or 9.

I am no biologist. I think TWRA can handle that department just fine.
I also dont think we should restrict the harvest of jakes or hens any more than it already is. The reason I feel this way? I think if we restrict what our NEW hunters(reguardless of age) can shoot(deer or turkeys, jakes or spikes) and their sucess rate is zero, they would get discourged and quit hunting all together. The same with hunters that have limited time in the field, no sucess, quit hunting, no sales of any products.
I know of some guys that their hunting time got limited due to having kids. This was before Unit L was created. they ended up quiting hunting because all they were seeing was does during their limited hunting time and the does were not legal to shoot.
I also dont care what legal weapon a person uses just as long as that person is in the field enjoying the hunt.

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#1334220 - 05/20/09 08:03 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: eddie c]
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#1334235 - 05/20/09 08:16 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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Hawk I forgot about that one.
I meant to add that as well.
Time for another poll. \:D
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#1334238 - 05/20/09 08:17 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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I wouldn't mind going back to 3 statewide & 1 WMA bird, or 2 and 2 like it used to be in the past. Of course, I have a WMA about 20 minutes from my house, and if we went that route, it would be covered up with hunters trying to get that extra bird.

Leave the fall alone. It is a different kind of hunting that those guys are just as hardcore about as the spring hunters are. Only 2000 birds were taken last fall, with 2/3 being hens.

Reducing the jake harvest to one is futile, because most hunters who would take a jake aren't going to kill more than one anyway.

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#1334267 - 05/20/09 08:39 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#1334315 - 05/20/09 09:04 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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So many choices.
I'd leave spring like it is.
Plenty of opportunity.

Mainly, I'd opt for more fall hunting opportunities. I wonder what the participation numbers in fall really are?

As for killing jakes. MS has long had some regs on not taking jakes. I think they allow kids to shoot 'em, maybe? Don't know. Knowing how/if it has paid off over the years would be interesting. I seriously doubt a lot of hunters are filling their tags with jakes.

Doing a statewide restriction because of a bad hatch would really be hard to justify.
It would seem better to place restrictions on specific areas/regions that wildlife managers know recorded bad hatches (which I think happens most often in river bottom areas). And TWRA has done that before, example: Mississippi River Bottom.

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#1334365 - 05/20/09 09:51 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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I would take 3

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#1334368 - 05/20/09 09:53 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1334373 - 05/20/09 10:01 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
eddie C, we have a no jake policy in Miss and no one has quit hunting because of it, if anything our license sales are increasing and finding places to hunt get harder and harder, because of the stricter regs.

The idea that restricing harvests as long as they are not insane, will not quell license sales or hunters.


Captain, not to argue your point but I personally know of some folks (in both states)that have not bought licenses and quit hunting because of restrictions. some of these are family members that have hunted for years.

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#1334378 - 05/20/09 10:06 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#8 with one jake.

I would like to see the juvy hunts open to either sex.

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#1334582 - 05/20/09 01:19 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1334743 - 05/20/09 05:00 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: wdsnipes]
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#2 maybe even #3. 3 birds is plenty in my opinion.
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#1334779 - 05/20/09 06:11 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RNT]
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#7- allowing only 1 jake

BUT,.. i would shorten the season to 4 weeks only and have a noon hunting cut off everyday. I think this would greatly increase the gobbling by the mature birds in pressured areas of this state.
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#1334803 - 05/20/09 06:52 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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Can we add a # 11 ???
4 bird limit with no more than 2 being taken on open statewide spring season and no more than 2 on WMA....
Just like it was several years ago...
Absolutely NO Fall season!!!!

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#1335173 - 05/20/09 11:31 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: VolDoug]
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 Originally Posted By: VolDoug
I wouldn't mind going back to 3 statewide & 1 WMA bird, or 2 and 2 like it used to be in the past. Of course, I have a WMA about 20 minutes from my house, and if we went that route, it would be covered up with hunters trying to get that extra bird.

Leave the fall alone. It is a different kind of hunting that those guys are just as hardcore about as the spring hunters are. Only 2000 birds were taken last fall, with 2/3 being hens.

Reducing the jake harvest to one is futile, because most hunters who would take a jake aren't going to kill more than one anyway.

So, you're saying that those of us who kill jakes can't kill longbeards? Interesting, but totally incorrect statement. I kill whatever shows up. This season it was one jake and two longbeards. But, had it been four jakes, that's what I would have killed. Or four longbeards. Makes no difference to me, but you're the first one that has told me that I probably wont kill more than one turkey a year anyway. Nice to know. lol
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#1335467 - 05/21/09 08:30 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#1336265 - 05/21/09 03:52 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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and shorten the season about 2 weeks
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#1336631 - 05/21/09 08:36 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1337604 - 05/22/09 11:07 AM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: big 8's in Weakley county]
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#1338190 - 05/22/09 07:52 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: Winchester]
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#1 Things seem great to me. I've never done the fall deal but I see no problem with it.
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#1340916 - 05/25/09 10:49 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: baller_9]
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#1344128 - 05/27/09 05:38 PM Re: Turkey limit question / poll [Re: RUGER]
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#5 please!
Or buckmaster320's #11 idea,2statewide and 2 wma.


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