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#1301080 - 04/23/09 09:22 AM Easiest firestarter and cheapest
CoastieHunter
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1. 9v battery
2. steel wool


Learned this in boyscouts years ago. Since then I've used it millions of times and always carry it in my pack. Easily packed, and it's a cool thing to show people that don't believe.

How to do it (very simple):
Touch two prongs of battery to the steel wool.... thats it!
Easiest thing to do is gather dry kindling and wrap it around the steel wool. Bada bing bada boom... fire!
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#1301096 - 04/23/09 09:30 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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#1301528 - 04/23/09 02:25 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: booche']
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#1302347 - 04/23/09 10:26 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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I've got to try this...
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#1302455 - 04/24/09 01:03 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: BMan]
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a bic lighter would be alot easier. wouldnt it be easier to carry a lighter than carry a battery and steel wool around for survival? and cheaper. batterys are expensive these days a good ole bic $1.50
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#1302520 - 04/24/09 06:29 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: buckdead]
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You can break a bic, or the bic can break, one or the other.
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#1302608 - 04/24/09 07:43 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: 7mm08]
CoastieHunter
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Here's my thing. Hell yea I ALWAYS HAVE A LIGHTER. (smoker) BUT... for whatever reason it gets wet, runs out of fluid, breaks I don't wanna be screwed.
The battery/steel wool will always work until the battery is dead. But I've never had a dead battery.

Flint is nice but you have to sit there and strike it until you get a good spark on a good kindling. The steel wool/battery will send red hot electricity throughout the wires in the steel wool and be a guaranteed fire starter. It's never failed me. :fact
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#1302641 - 04/24/09 08:40 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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 Originally Posted By: CoastieHunter
Here's my thing. Hell yea I ALWAYS HAVE A LIGHTER. (smoker) BUT... for whatever reason it gets wet, runs out of fluid, breaks I don't wanna be screwed.
The battery/steel wool will always work until the battery is dead. But I've never had a dead battery.

Flint is nice but you have to sit there and strike it until you get a good spark on a good kindling. The steel wool/battery will send red hot electricity throughout the wires in the steel wool and be a guaranteed fire starter. It's never failed me. :fact




All good as long as you remember to keep a fresh battery with you.......................I have never had my flint or steel run out of juice, fluid...........works wet/dry. I also carry a Magnesium block & striker, also works wet/dry and burns very hot.

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#1303706 - 04/25/09 09:29 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: ]
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Here's a cool video showing the reaction of battery and steel wool.

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#1323717 - 05/11/09 02:26 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: ]
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Dryer lint is very good tender.... you can get plenty free and store it in a ziploc bag to keep it dry until needed....
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#1329888 - 05/16/09 09:34 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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You can also use the steel wool with 2 "C" or "D" batteries. Put the batteries end to end (just like they came out of a flashlight) and stretch the steel wool from the + and - ends that are exposed. Does the same as a 9 volt.
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#1330043 - 05/17/09 07:14 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Camp]
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I teach a wilderness survival course (got a class tomorrow actually), and long ago abandoned the steel wool/battery concept. I quit teaching it because:
1)exactly no one, and I mean ZERO people carry steel wool out in the field.
2)it depends on a variable that's not visually detectable (the amount of charge in the battery), and is always in decline
3)those that are prepared for survival carry the appropriate firestarting items with them, or learn/know how to make a firebow or other primitive means. Knowledge is always with you, your battery and steel wool combination might not.

In theory, you could also carry an arc welder and a gas powered generator around in the woods with you to make fire... but the reality is that just as many people carry the arc welder and generator as carry steel wool \:\)


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#1331514 - 05/18/09 12:12 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: BlackBelt]
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By firebow you mean a bowdrill?
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#1331832 - 05/18/09 03:06 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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Yes, firebow = bowdrill. Basically a device that looks similiar to a regular archery bow only smaller, and works with 3 other pieces of wood to make enough friction that it causes an ember, which goes down a little channel in the drill base into a small pile of tender...and hopefully catches the thing on fire! \:\)
It's primitive and will wear you out getting that ember, but it does work.

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#1338860 - 05/24/09 08:21 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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by far the cheapest and easiest fire starter is vasoline and cotton balls, simply put vasolibe on cotton balls, keep them in zip lock or other dry small container, a match, a flint starter, a bic lighter anything will work, the cotton balls will burn for 1 - 2 minutes depending on how much vasoline they have on them, either way they burn plenty long enough to get your fire going very quickly!
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#1347795 - 05/30/09 05:15 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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Awesome......I gotta try that one!....Never heard of it!
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#1374078 - 06/19/09 09:12 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: ]
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So... to those that swear by magnesium and a spark...

I'm watching Bizzare Foods with Andrew Zimmerman the other day.

He is doing an episode on food but he has to survive in woods on his own for 2 days. By that he has to make a fire.

2 Days prior to his departure he has a training session with world renowned outdoorsman/survival man "Hawk" (not sure of full name, but seen him on a few shows).
They get a birds nest and scrape off magnesium onto it... then for the next 1.5 they try and light it... NO GO!

If they would have had a battery and steel wool there is not skill to it. Put the two together and bada bing bada boom... instant fire!

To those that say... what if the battery is dead? Well if you know anything about survival a fire is to never be put out as long as you are at that individual camp site. You keep it going 24-7. So you only need 1 little charge out of that battery. If you are going out in the woods, pack a fresh battery and you'll never have to worry about it.
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#1374248 - 06/19/09 10:58 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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#1376512 - 06/21/09 01:21 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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I take the empty roll from toilet paper or paper towels, stuff them with the lint from my dryer, place under kindling and strike a match to it. In no time at all yo have a fire going. I must be cheap I don't have to buy a bettery. \:D
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#1376965 - 06/21/09 08:59 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: LadyinEscape]
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I make water proof matches by dipping them in Hot Wax.
I use cedar shavings for my Tender.
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#1385821 - 06/28/09 02:26 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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any particular grade of steel wool/...00 or 000 or 0000
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#1385836 - 06/28/09 02:39 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Boone 58]
CoastieHunter
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that i'm not sure, I know that I have gotten mine from walmart. It's the one that's really corse. The bigger steel I guess.
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#1433986 - 07/31/09 05:55 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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i did not know that nice
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#1434423 - 08/01/09 07:30 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: ROD]
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Cost - $2.30
1 gallon gas \:\)
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#1434630 - 08/01/09 11:30 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Boone 58]
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I learned the Cotton Balls and Vasoline trip a few years ago. Works incredibly well.

I carry 5 or 6 cotton balls in an old plastic 35mm film canister, packed full of vasoline. For spark, magnesium stick!
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#1436557 - 08/02/09 08:19 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: plinker22]
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Any of these hand sanitizer lights real easy and burns prety long
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#1496110 - 09/11/09 09:31 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: philburr]
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works when damp also
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#2026628 - 08/11/10 07:55 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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love it!
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#2029966 - 08/14/10 10:03 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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#2031700 - 08/15/10 07:41 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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I gotta try this!
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#2042639 - 08/23/10 06:33 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Boone 58]
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Fline stick are very cheap, small and are good for 100's of fire per stick. You can get a three pack for less than $10. Don't need anything else but something dry to burn. Keep one in my backpack year round.
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#2216682 - 12/16/10 09:00 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: LadyinEscape]
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 Originally Posted By: CoastieHunter
1. 9v battery
2. steel wool


Learned this in boyscouts years ago. Since then I've used it millions of times and always carry it in my pack. Easily packed, and it's a cool thing to show people that don't believe.

How to do it (very simple):
Touch two prongs of battery to the steel wool.... thats it!
Easiest thing to do is gather dry kindling and wrap it around the steel wool. Bada bing bada boom... fire!
 Originally Posted By: elauwit
there's another that might be as cheap. If you were in scouts you remember the hot spark flint and steel kits. I picked up a new one at the scout office in knoxville. It wasn't very much at all.
 Originally Posted By: buckdead
a bic lighter would be alot easier. wouldnt it be easier to carry a lighter than carry a battery and steel wool around for survival? and cheaper. batterys are expensive these days a good ole bic $1.50
 Originally Posted By: Grizzly Johnson
Dryer lint is very good tender.... you can get plenty free and store it in a ziploc bag to keep it dry until needed....
 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
I teach a wilderness survival course (got a class tomorrow actually), and long ago abandoned the steel wool/battery concept. I quit teaching it because:
1)exactly no one, and I mean ZERO people carry steel wool out in the field.
2)it depends on a variable that's not visually detectable (the amount of charge in the battery), and is always in decline
3)those that are prepared for survival carry the appropriate firestarting items with them, or learn/know how to make a firebow or other primitive means. Knowledge is always with you, your battery and steel wool combination might not.

In theory, you could also carry an arc welder and a gas powered generator around in the woods with you to make fire... but the reality is that just as many people carry the arc welder and generator as carry steel wool \:\)
 Originally Posted By: BlackBelt
Yes, firebow = bowdrill. Basically a device that looks similiar to a regular archery bow only smaller, and works with 3 other pieces of wood to make enough friction that it causes an ember, which goes down a little channel in the drill base into a small pile of tender...and hopefully catches the thing on fire! \:\)
It's primitive and will wear you out getting that ember, but it does work.
 Originally Posted By: 257man999
by far the cheapest and easiest fire starter is vasoline and cotton balls, simply put vasolibe on cotton balls, keep them in zip lock or other dry small container, a match, a flint starter, a bic lighter anything will work, the cotton balls will burn for 1 - 2 minutes depending on how much vasoline they have on them, either way they burn plenty long enough to get your fire going very quickly!
 Originally Posted By: LadyinEscape
I take the empty roll from toilet paper or paper towels, stuff them with the lint from my dryer, place under kindling and strike a match to it. In no time at all yo have a fire going. I must be cheap I don't have to buy a bettery. \:D


The bottom line in any situation is prepareness (#1); Knowing what to do when a situation presents itself. I have taken numerous course and training classes on outdoor survival because of the hobbies I partake in.........hunting, hiking, snowshoeing, etc. Most everything I participate in is either in the mountains or remote areas with no cell service and few other human beings other than the ones with me.

Yep, by time the reality of it all sets in that you are in a problem situation "It is to late" if you are not prepared.

The bottom line is batteries go dead, steel wool rusts(and becomes useless)lighters need a fuel supply and kept dry, matches(LOL) including "waterproof" not dependable, and dryer lint is a flash in the pan (burns to quick and not hot enough, also draws moisture quickly, if wet useless).

Over the yrs. I have carried nearly every one of the above mentioned items and no longer carry any of them..................

I now carry a firestick and a canister of vasalined cotton balls, bulletproof wet or dry, nearly effortless to use and compact, O..............and inexpensive, reuseable for life(unless lost,firestick that is) the vasalined cotton balls will not dry out, go bad from yr to yr if left in a pack, moisture proof, etc.

They burn hotter than anything else I have used and last several mins. each. Primative always good to know, but most of the time it is physically draining and difficult.

Always think ahead and simple...............

FDXX75


Edited by FULLDRAWXX75 (12/16/10 09:02 AM)
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#2216711 - 12/16/10 09:17 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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#2216752 - 12/16/10 09:40 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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I discovered the battery/steel wool several years ago when I was younger and playing around with batteries and steel wool for some reason...I've always liked making things and playing with fire so I guess it just came together. Also a 6v battery works really well but they're a lot bigger so a 9v is good enough for anyone.
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#2217052 - 12/16/10 01:17 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: catman529]
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nobody mentioned fritos

ever opened a bag a lit a few?

try it




it will make you think about what your eating next time you eat some

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#2217057 - 12/16/10 01:20 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: CoastieHunter]
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#2217137 - 12/16/10 02:17 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: 762hunter]
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 Originally Posted By: 762hunter
nobody mentioned fritos

ever opened a bag a lit a few?

try it




it will make you think about what your eating next time you eat some




Yep, the grease content is over the top with those things................

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#2217196 - 12/16/10 02:50 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Boone 58]
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I have always taken two Matchlight Charcoil Briquets with me in a waterproof container. If you have a match to start them, then they will make wet wood burn.
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#2218115 - 12/17/10 08:07 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: J.M.A.N.]
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 Originally Posted By: J.M.A.N.
I have always taken two Matchlight Charcoil Briquets with me in a waterproof container. If you have a match to start them, then they will make wet wood burn.


Both the brickette and the matches are highly sensitive to moisture and only have a one time use..............

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#2218791 - 12/17/10 03:47 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: FULLDRAWXX75]
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 Originally Posted By: FULLDRAWXX75
 Originally Posted By: 762hunter
nobody mentioned fritos

ever opened a bag a lit a few?

try it




it will make you think about what your eating next time you eat some




Yep, the grease content is over the top with those things................

FDXX75



Learned this one back in high school on one of our unpreapared camping trips and all we had were various chips and beer.
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#2218802 - 12/17/10 03:58 PM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: plinker22]
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 Originally Posted By: plinker22

I carry 5 or 6 cotton balls in an old plastic 35mm film canister, packed full of vasoline. For spark, magnesium stick!
I do the same, but I still keep a couple bic's too...they're easier (long as they work)
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#2219647 - 12/18/10 10:57 AM Re: Easiest firestarter and cheapest [Re: Boone 58]
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9volt, steel wool, once its burning stick it to the dryer lint and get it going. Then take off your underwear (or pack some, more fun to strip) and catch it on fire. You will have 6-9 foot flames!
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