Tndeer Logo

Page all of 4 1234>
Topic Options
#1300535 - 04/22/09 09:28 PM Turkey gun help
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
Been looking at a turkey/small game/duck gun for a few weeks now. Been everywhere lookin at em. Narrowed it to 3. Rem 1187 super mag, stoeger 2000 and rem spartan semi auto . Both rems shoot 3.5 inch mags. The stoeger only 3's. Both rems are gas operated, the stoeger is inertia. Like the stoeger because it is light and trim, but the 1187 is proven. Don't know much about the spartan except it feels good and is made in russia. So what can you tell me. i am a rifle man and I am truly lost, but want a semi 12.

Edited by redblood (04/22/09 09:31 PM)
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1300554 - 04/22/09 09:36 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
Game Eye
14 Point


Registered: 08/06/00
Posts: 8394
Loc: Tennessee

Offline
Mossberg fella myself, for turkeys...
Top
#1300557 - 04/22/09 09:37 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
Buckblaster
10 Point


Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 3889
Loc: bradley county,TN/Lancaster,SC

Offline
I would not get an auto in 3.5"
That is asking for cycling trouble with 2 3/4" shells.

The stoeger I had, had crooked choke threads in the barrel so it wouldnt shoot straight, the choke did not align properly, and it would knock the living snot out of you for an auto 3" gun, insead of more of a push feeling recoil of an auto, it had a hard snap, plus the sloppy rotating bolt head got on my nerves. Have to slam it so it will rotate on my old one.

If you are set on a 3.5" auto, get the 1187.

Otherwise get a regualar 1187. You wont be disappointed.
_________________________

Turn your caps lock of goober, we can hear you.

Top
#1300570 - 04/22/09 09:41 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Buckblaster]
smstone22
16 Point


Registered: 01/11/04
Posts: 16757
Loc: Allardt, TN

Offline
Of those choices definitely 1187
_________________________
-QDM=Better Deer, Better Deer Hunting
-Let Him Go, So He Can Grow

Top
#1300580 - 04/22/09 09:44 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: smstone22]
SALECREEKHUNTER
8 Point


Registered: 08/19/08
Posts: 1089
Loc: Sale Creek (backwoods), TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: steven stone
Of those choices definitely 1187



yep
_________________________
"There's nothing like a nice piece of hickory" Pale Rider

Top
#1300590 - 04/22/09 09:46 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
I am leanin that way.
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1300604 - 04/22/09 09:51 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Buckblaster]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
Not disagreeing with buckblaster, but ive shot a 1187 for several years and have never had a problem with the 2 3/4 shells. I have heard that before though. Without a doubt I would go with the 1187. No complaints here. Camo, not black.


 Originally Posted By: Buckblaster
I would not get an auto in 3.5"
That is asking for cycling trouble with 2 3/4" shells.

The stoeger I had, had crooked choke threads in the barrel so it wouldnt shoot straight, the choke did not align properly, and it would knock the living snot out of you for an auto 3" gun, insead of more of a push feeling recoil of an auto, it had a hard snap, plus the sloppy rotating bolt head got on my nerves. Have to slam it so it will rotate on my old one.

If you are set on a 3.5" auto, get the 1187.

Otherwise get a regualar 1187. You wont be disappointed.
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1300623 - 04/22/09 09:55 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Buckblaster
10 Point


Registered: 10/04/06
Posts: 3889
Loc: bradley county,TN/Lancaster,SC

Offline
Not to worry, I have just heard of every 3.5" auto having problem with 2 3/4" shells. Even the 1187 supermag.

I wasnt speaking of the regular 1187.
It is most definatly my next shotgun, I shoot an 1100 now for skeet, dove, squirrel etc.
Remington makes a fine auto.
_________________________

Turn your caps lock of goober, we can hear you.

Top
#1300640 - 04/22/09 10:01 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Buckblaster]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
10 Point


Registered: 08/15/07
Posts: 4065
Loc: Hardin, Co.

Offline
I'd also suggest a short barrel, around 23" or 24". They are a lot easier to move around with in the woods. And with today's chokes and loads the short barrels will shoot well.
_________________________
" Some localities are willing to work for their sport, and have plenty. Others are willing merely to take what comes easy, and have little or none." - Aldo Leopold

Top
#1300645 - 04/22/09 10:04 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
Should have said earlier i shoot a 1187 supermag. Love it, true huntin gun!!
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1300657 - 04/22/09 10:09 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
You are shootin it pretty well this season TB. I bet brents yard is stained red. I am definitely goin with the 1187. It is a little higher but I am goin on a duck hunt and figure I need 3.5" plus I trust the rem name.
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1300662 - 04/22/09 10:13 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
I was thinking a gun guy like yourself mite go with a browning(gold/silver) or a benelli. Get Will Smith to buy you a gun. lol
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1300668 - 04/22/09 10:17 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
I am a gun guy, not a shotgun guy. Dicks sporting goods seems to have the best prices. I don't think ol' will is a pro gun fella. Where did you get your supermag. Dicks has them for 650.00 after the 20 buck coupon. Sound fair?
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1300680 - 04/22/09 10:22 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
Got mine from Rays Pawn in l'burg. 5 years ago 28"barrel camo supermag- red. i think i paid around 900? could be wrong. 650 sounds great. camo supermag?
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1300692 - 04/22/09 10:27 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
Mossy oak. On sale. Bass pro has them for 799. Dicks seems to have the best price by far. Franklin gun wants 800.++ for used ones
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1300697 - 04/22/09 10:29 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Blue5
Woodpile Boys
16 Point


Registered: 09/21/04
Posts: 16826
Loc: Chapel Hill, TN

Offline
If you are goin on a Duck Hunt dont go shorter than 26 on the barrel. The other hunters will appreciate it! I would def go 1187! camo!

900$Turkeyburd? Ole Jason Gotcha!
_________________________
"It's What We Do!"

Top
#1300708 - 04/22/09 10:39 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Blue5]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
got me several times.
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1300721 - 04/22/09 10:45 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
gil1
12 Point


Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 6318
Loc: Nashville, TN

Offline
I've had 1187s for many years. I can't speak for the other guns, but man the 1187s have been beaten to death and performed well.
_________________________
It is not the killing ...; it is the contest of skill and cunning. The true hunter counts his achievement in proportion to the effort involved and the fairness of the sport.

Dr. Saxton Pope

Top
#1300735 - 04/22/09 10:59 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
THE ONE
Woodpile Boys
12 Point


Registered: 08/31/05
Posts: 6389
Loc: the hill

Offline
 Originally Posted By: TurkeyBurd
Should have said earlier i shoot a 1187 supermag. Love it, true huntin gun!!
Seen in make a mess out of a boat load of game in its day. Not to mention its 5 for 5 and shootin banded ducks lol!
_________________________
"Dont talk about it be about it"(Turkeyburd)

Top
#1300737 - 04/22/09 10:59 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: gil1]
GOODWIN
4 Point


Registered: 02/18/08
Posts: 367
Loc: Jackson, MS

Offline
for your needs/wants go with the 1187 and 26" barrel(may not be the best for turkey or duck but just fine for both)
_________________________
Kill it and grill it

Top
#1300738 - 04/22/09 11:00 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Blue5]
THE ONE
Woodpile Boys
12 Point


Registered: 08/31/05
Posts: 6389
Loc: the hill

Offline
LOL!

900$Turkeyburd? Ole Jason Gotcha![/quote]
_________________________
"Dont talk about it be about it"(Turkeyburd)

Top
#1300964 - 04/23/09 07:56 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: THE ONE]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
I think it has a 28". It will be for turkeys mainly. I am not a duck hunter but one of our buyers gave a us a 5 day hunt, and I don't want to show up with my old single shot 10 gauge. The only drawback I see on the 1187's I'd they are a little heavier than the rest. Can they cycle dove loads?
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1301086 - 04/23/09 09:23 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
REN
Good ol' Boys "Team Grizzly"
12 Point


Registered: 10/24/07
Posts: 5024
Loc: Wilson County, TN

Offline
there are a few threads on the Stoeger 2000 so you can search for those for more info, but IF money is part of the equation then the Stoeger is a dang fine gun. I have on and absolutely love it and have had no issues with it. I got the one in camo that came with 2 barrels 24 and 28 and 2 stocks, pistol and field grips for $499.

the 1187 is a dang fine gun to if you have the extra money to spend. The stoeger is easier to clean and uses the same action as the benelli's. It uses recoil to load the action instead of gas which makes cleaning it easier.

just a choice of comfort for the shoot, but i have an 870 super mag, 1100 and a stoeger 2000 and I love shooting the Stoeger personally
_________________________
VooDoo Mafia

John 3:16



Top
#1301171 - 04/23/09 10:18 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Winchester
Non-Typical


Registered: 12/05/03
Posts: 27322
Loc: TN

Offline
I had an 1187 supermag and it was a lemon! I sent it back to Remingtons gunsmiths TWICE and they never could fix it! It would jam when shooting 2 3/4 shells. Gunsmith finally added a gas ring that I had to remove before shooting 3 or 3 1/2 in loads! I dont think so, I didnt buy a brand new gun to have to work on it depending on the loads i was shooting! I got rid of it first chance I got and took a beating on it!
Top
#1301711 - 04/23/09 04:51 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Winchester]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
Seems to be the number 1 complaint- won't eject low brass 2.75's. I wonder is the higher end field loads will cycle.I have heard surprisingly good things about the stoeger- just wish it would handle 3.5's
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1302160 - 04/23/09 09:22 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
Never had a problem with 2 3/4 shells. but i do clean my guns. lol!!!
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1302172 - 04/23/09 09:25 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
Blue5
Woodpile Boys
16 Point


Registered: 09/21/04
Posts: 16826
Loc: Chapel Hill, TN

Offline
You gonna take me with you on that Duck hunt? LOL Ill let you shoot my gun!
_________________________
"It's What We Do!"

Top
#1302300 - 04/23/09 10:08 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Blue5]
TurkeyBurd Moderator
Woodpile Boys
10 Point


Registered: 12/30/08
Posts: 3021
Loc: Chapel Hill

Offline
Sorry blue, only 1187 boys welcome. Rite red?
_________________________
' it ain't fair, I gotta WURK!' -Porkchop Jacobs

Top
#1302458 - 04/24/09 01:15 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: TurkeyBurd]
8pointbetter
8 Point


Registered: 12/31/06
Posts: 1375
Loc: columbia

Offline
benelli nova $349 at acdemy sports great all around gun for the money
_________________________

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ
BONE COLLECTOR aka RAMBO

Top
#1302628 - 04/24/09 08:18 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: 8pointbetter]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
I looked at the novas but really want a semi. I better take one of you with me as I am not a duck hunter and don't own a call.
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1302977 - 04/24/09 02:13 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
SuperX2
4 Point


Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 412
Loc: Nashville, TN

Offline
I wouldn't purchase a semi-auto chambered for 3.5" shells with the expectation that it would be my #1 gun on the dove or trap/skeet field - or in other words, if I was going to shoot a lot of 2 3/4" shells through it. I've shot 1100's, 11-87's, Super Black Eagle I's and II's, Browning Golds, and my favorite - the Winchester SuperX2. All function well if they're kept clean. No doubt that a semi-auto requires a bit more diligence in the maintenance dept. than a pump. I know some heavy-duty waterfowlers and turkey hunters might like those hard-hitting 3.5" shells, but in my experience, if you're good with a shotgun, a 3" shell ought to bring it down! LOL

Buying a 3" semi-auto loader just gives you more flexibility for all loads and all shotgun shooting scenarios, in my opinion.

Do some research on load patterning in 3' vs. 3.5" guns. Those large-chambered shotguns typically perform better the larger the shell you're shooting. (Something to bear in mind if most of your shells fired are only 2 3/4's.)

Good luck! Always fun researching and then purchasing a new shotgun!

Top
#1303571 - 04/24/09 11:52 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
Blue5
Woodpile Boys
16 Point


Registered: 09/21/04
Posts: 16826
Loc: Chapel Hill, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: redblood
I looked at the novas but really want a semi. I better take one of you with me as I am not a duck hunter and don't own a call.


As good as you are with that verminator you could prolly use it to call em in!
_________________________
"It's What We Do!"

Top
#1303712 - 04/25/09 09:41 AM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: Blue5]
redblood
16 Point


Registered: 01/22/06
Posts: 13851
Loc: Lewisburg

Offline
Good info x2. I like the winchesters as well. They are just priced higher that the rem'S. Blue, I don't even know what a duck sounds like.
_________________________
"I will predator hunt for food "

Top
#1304829 - 04/26/09 09:01 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: redblood]
Blue5
Woodpile Boys
16 Point


Registered: 09/21/04
Posts: 16826
Loc: Chapel Hill, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: redblood
Good info x2. I like the winchesters as well. They are just priced higher that the rem'S. Blue, I don't even know what a duck sounds like.


Quack! Quack!
_________________________
"It's What We Do!"

Top
#1305672 - 04/27/09 05:23 PM Re: Turkey gun help [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
TNDOC
4 Point


Registered: 10/24/08
Posts: 115
Loc: TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: 8 POINTS OR BETTER
I'd also suggest a short barrel, around 23" or 24". They are a lot easier to move around with in the woods. And with today's chokes and loads the short barrels will shoot well.


A little warning about the short gun. I have a short 870 that I love, bought it as a turkey gun but used it some for ducks. It only took one season for my buddies to make me get another gun to use for ducks. The short barrel is LOUDER than all get out in a duck blind. Just an FYI, I love mine for turkey hunting but use a longer one for wing shooting.

Top
Page all of 4 1234>


Moderator:  RUGER, Bobby G, Unicam, Cuttin Caller, CBU93, stretch, TurkeyBurd, Kimber45, Kirk, Crappie Luck, Grizzly Johnson 
Hop to:
Top Posters
4104320
RUGER
85516
Deer Assassin
64196
BSK
59429
Crappie Luck
51368
spitndrum
Newest Members
bassassassin7, BBQ, Kornhunter, Afleming17, 260rem
13281 Registered Users
Who's Online
12 registered (Daniel n, jmb4wd, bucks2beards outdoor, pledbetter, Toxophilite Phil, mountin whitetails, 2 invisible) and 66 anonymous users online.
Forum Stats
13281 Members
42 Forums
85144 Topics
1028959 Posts

Max Online: 788 @ 11/11/13 08:06 PM
Moon Phase
CURRENT MOON
April
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4 5
6 7 8 9 10 11 12
13 14 15 16 17 18 19
20 21 22 23 24 25 26
27 28 29 30
Forum Donations
The TnDeer.Com Deer Talk Forum is for Tennessee Deer Hunters by Tennessee Deer Hunters. If you enjoy using our Talk Forum and would like to contribute to help in it's up-keep. Just submit your contribution by clicking on the DONATE button below and paying with PayPal or a major credit card. Any amount is much appreciated. Thanks for your support!

TN Burn Safe

Generated in 0.251 seconds in which 0.002 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.