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#1287556 - 04/13/09 10:29 AM Is a gobbler decoy necessary?
Spoonbillmallard
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I have had mixed feedback on this subject and would like some more input from you guys. Is it better to display a lone hen or a hen and a gobbler?

Seems when you call in the jakes and you have a gobbler decoy out they stay at a distance. Dominance factor is the reason i thought. But I was lucky enough to kill a jake last week with a hen and a gobbler decoy out, but they wasn't coming in to them. They seen the gobbler and was going to go around and got too close lol!

But I didn't know from ya'll experiance if just a hen decoy works better than a hen and a gobbler?
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#1287592 - 04/13/09 11:06 AM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: Spoonbillmallard]
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Just depends on what the ol boy has been thru. There have been more than one jake that whooped up on a gobbler. Then again, a mature ol tom might just like to look for fights. To me, it seems that earlier in the season to just about right now (mid April)a lone hen or a couple of hens is better than putting out a jake, but then later on, a jake with a hen works better.
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#1287613 - 04/13/09 11:25 AM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: Gray Ghost]
SALECREEKHUNTER
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I would like to hear the info on this as well. I called a gobbler in to about 70 yards this morning til he could see my gobbler and hen decoys. He strutted around at about 70 yards for 20 minutes or so, then he just turned away from them and didn't want anything to do with the decoys. He just walked around feeding for a while longer and eventually left.
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#1287624 - 04/13/09 11:37 AM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
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I'm beginning to wonder about dekes at all. Last two set ups had a jake and 3 hens out. Every gobbler both jakes and toms that came by took a wide birth or gave no interest at all. Had 3 hens come in and check them out that is all.
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#1287643 - 04/13/09 11:59 AM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: turkeyhunter64]
captain hook
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I don't own any decoys, and do not hunt over decoys. I have killed one longbeard over a hen decoy, one over a strutter, and watched one die over a strutter. That is out of over hundred birds I have killed and another 50-75 I have watched die.

If you hunt cow pasture field birds, then they almost are a necessary evil. However if you hunt woods birds there is absolutely no reason to bother with them IMO.

Funny thing about decoys is, that they can cost you just as much as they will bring you.
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#1287698 - 04/13/09 12:37 PM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: captain hook]
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I only use decoys if A) i have plenty of time and cover to put them out and B) I am doing more of a morning hunt where they will pitch down into my decoys (more of a comfort factor at this point)

I normally wont use them though and I dont like a strutting TOM decoy at all. One of the bigger reasons is i really dont like carrying one around and 2. i have seen to many times people using them and it had a reverse affect instead of a desired one.

I learned to hunt in bama growing up and decoys were illegal so now i just dont really feel the need to use them that much. if you have your set up good where the bird will be in range when he crests a hill or trail to look for you, you dont need them.
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#1287701 - 04/13/09 12:39 PM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: captain hook]
REN
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook

Funny thing about decoys is, that they can cost you just as much as they will bring you.



very true....i cannot tell you how many times i have heard or witnessed people mess up a hunt by trying to put out decoys instead of just sitting still.

trying to get closer to put them out on a roosted bird just to have the bird spot them or having one gobble on the ground and trying to get them out just to have the bird spot them putting them up.
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#1287729 - 04/13/09 01:09 PM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: REN]
captain hook
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REN, my feelings and experience come from similar roots as yours. I grew up in Miss, but we hunted AL alot and they were illegal. Best thing ever IMO, and wish they were still illegal. It makes folks really have to learn how to call, and position themselves to kill birds, even field birds.

I could care less if folks use them or not, honestly, but for me I just don't need them, and am happy to not have to fight with something else or rely on something else to be successful.
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#1287750 - 04/13/09 01:23 PM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: captain hook]
REN
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
REN, my feelings and experience come from similar roots as yours. I grew up in Miss, but we hunted AL alot and they were illegal. Best thing ever IMO, and wish they were still illegal. It makes folks really have to learn how to call, and position themselves to kill birds, even field birds.

I could care less if folks use them or not, honestly, but for me I just don't need them, and am happy to not have to fight with something else or rely on something else to be successful.



yeah it wouldn't hurt my feelings if there were here. It will make you learn to hunt them better and is actually MUCH safer when they are not allowed.

I will use them from time to time dont get me wrong but other then morning hunts I rarely will use them. Just leaned over alot of hunts that they can and will hurt you more then help a lot of times.
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#1287751 - 04/13/09 01:25 PM Re: Is a gobbler decoy necessary? [Re: REN]
captain hook
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I wonder how many less birds would die if it weren't for the "new" full strut decoys?

I am just thanful I am not one that has become joined at the hip with a decoy.
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