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#1265616 - 03/28/09 10:24 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: ]
keith35611
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
i do know crappie grow big in the tn river and i firmly believe it would work.


This is the part that makes your whole argument insane.Most of,if not all of the TN river in AL has a 9" minimum length.

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#1265627 - 03/28/09 10:30 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: keith35611]
mallard239
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i am in favor of a twelve in minimum where fertile enough. there is too much pressure on public lakes these days to allow crappie to reach that size on their own. if twelve is a bad idea, why is ten a good idea? who says an eight incher doesn't eat good? it's all about what you expect from your fishery. i also agree that the tenn river from pickwick to ky could grow them, as well as reelfoot. my 2 cents.
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#1265636 - 03/28/09 10:33 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: keith35611]
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 Originally Posted By: keith35611
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
i do know crappie grow big in the tn river and i firmly believe it would work.


This is the part that makes your whole argument insane.Most of,if not all of the TN river in AL has a 9" minimum length.


no logic there keith. what is in place in alabama has nothing to do with what i am in favor of in tn.

i still haven't heard anyone say why it wouldn't or couldn't work?

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#1265651 - 03/28/09 10:42 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: B.D.]
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 Originally Posted By: Brian Dunigan


Do you have any science to back that up? You can "not buy" it all day long, but TWRA has years of sampling data that say otherwise.


brian, are you saying they have science it wouldn't work, or do they have science that it is not necessary? all over the state, or just east tn? completely different things. i do understand that it might not work on clear, infertile lakes in middle and east tennessee, but that may not apply in the better lakes.

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#1265658 - 03/28/09 10:49 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: ]
4onaside
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Registered: 02/07/06
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
 Originally Posted By: keith35611
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
i do know crappie grow big in the tn river and i firmly believe it would work.


This is the part that makes your whole argument insane.Most of,if not all of the TN river in AL has a 9" minimum length.


no logic there keith. what is in place in alabama has nothing to do with what i am in favor of in tn.

i still haven't heard anyone say why it wouldn't or couldn't work?
What's your favorite method of fishing. Hmmmmm,it couldn't be trolling could it?
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#1265665 - 03/28/09 10:56 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: B.D.]
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 Originally Posted By: Brian Dunigan
We've been over this. A 12" size limit would be pointless in Tennessee because the growth rate is too slow. In most places in Tennessee, it takes as long (or longer) for a crappie to reach 10" as it does for a Mississippi crappie to grow to 12". A lot of our crappie die of natural causes (not harvest) without ever growing to 12". Putting a 12" size limit on them won't work if they're simply not growing that big.

Look at Tellico. That lake has one of the slowest growth rates in the state. Lots of small crappie but they don't live long enough to grow to 10" at their growth rate. Putting a 10" size limit on that lake hasn't increased the number of keepers because it takes 5 years for a Tellico crappie to grow to 10" and their average life expectancy is closer to 4 years. A 10" limit there gives you plenty of 8-9" throwbacks but not more keepers.

If they grew fast and lived forever we could put a 20" size limit on them and catch giant crappie all day long, but that's not how it works.

 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
also tell them you don't buy that crap that our fish won't grow fast enough


Do you have any science to back that up? You can "not buy" it all day long, but TWRA has years of sampling data that say otherwise.

You might as well call NASA and tell them that you "don't buy that crap" about the moon being make of rocks, because you believe it is made of cheese.

bd


by the way brian, just spoke with a friend who fishes nothing but tellico. he tells me the fish are running much better since the minimum was put in place. common sense trumps science just about 100% of the time. also, don't believe everything you read in a book or that twra tells you.

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#1265668 - 03/28/09 10:58 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: 4onaside]
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 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
 Originally Posted By: keith35611
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
i do know crappie grow big in the tn river and i firmly believe it would work.


This is the part that makes your whole argument insane.Most of,if not all of the TN river in AL has a 9" minimum length.


no logic there keith. what is in place in alabama has nothing to do with what i am in favor of in tn.

i still haven't heard anyone say why it wouldn't or couldn't work?
What's your favorite method of fishing. Hmmmmm,it couldn't be trolling could it?


why don't you go back to talking about doves? just as relevent as this comment.

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#1266392 - 03/29/09 02:22 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: ]
4onaside
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
 Originally Posted By: 4onaside
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
 Originally Posted By: keith35611
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
i do know crappie grow big in the tn river and i firmly believe it would work.


This is the part that makes your whole argument insane.Most of,if not all of the TN river in AL has a 9" minimum length.


no logic there keith. what is in place in alabama has nothing to do with what i am in favor of in tn.

i still haven't heard anyone say why it wouldn't or couldn't work?
What's your favorite method of fishing. Hmmmmm,it couldn't be trolling could it?


why don't you go back to talking about doves? just as relevent as this comment.
Of course, my comment is relevant. Just asked a question about your favorite method of fishing. Do you like to troll?
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#1266781 - 03/29/09 06:47 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: ]
Trapper John
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 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer
 Originally Posted By: Trapper John
 Originally Posted By: deerlawyer

a man should apply some pride to his fishing just like his job, and throw those little tater chips back. leave the ten inchers for the bank fishermen sitting on buckets, or make em illegal.


This is part of the reason your proposal has turned into a joke. How can we possibly take you seriously when you demean other fishermen who don't measure up to your "standards?" Talking down to the "bank fishermen" and the "tater chip" comment...it makes you a bad joke. Combine that with no scientific backup and the posts above will be the result on here and at a TWRC meeting.


typical liberal response trap. don't expect excellence from anyone, just make everyone happy. very quickly becoming the american way. you and the other liberals on this website are the bad joke.


Unfortunately for you this really isn't a political argument. Getting this type of deal to be taken seriously requires scientific backing and support from the masses. Right now you have neither.

Since the troll smell has become prevalent in this thread I'll leave it at that.

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#1266961 - 03/29/09 07:39 PM Re: 12 in crappie minimum [Re: Trapper John]
BuckWild
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I was catching 1.5 to 1.75 lb crappie pretty regular on the TN River back in the 80's when there were no size limits. Then I move to Memphis and start fishing Sardis and Enid and Arkabutla and am still catching 1.5 to 1.75 lb crappie on a regular basis. I caught 2 limits on Sardis last week. Fish are the same size they were before the 12 inch min went into effect. Just had 40 fish instead of 60 fish because they lowered the limit.
I fish Mississippi because it's close, not because it's got a 12 in min.


So what's your point? \:D \:D
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