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#1250893 - 03/21/09 01:20 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: backstraps]
dirtturner
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.243 is too light for 300yds. It will kill but so will a 204. 25-06 is too light. Yes again it will kill but is not the best idea at that range. Anything from a 240 Weatherby to 300 anything. Yes the 240 mag is slightly lighter but it is a Weatherby magnum so it has the knockdown power. I use 3 Weatherbys: 240, 270 & 300. All will kill out to 400 cleanly in 1 shot. I have shot my 240 out to 400+ and killed my biggest deer yet this past season with it. It was well past 400. My 270 has hit and one-shot killed at 405. My 300 several between. 250-350. I shoot long range for practice...alot. It is difficult and expensive but it really does pay off. I also use a 444, 308, have used a 8mm and am going to try my S&W model 29-3 again this fall. Killed a doe just under 100 yds with the 44. I have also killed deer with my 243, but under 250 and under. Killed the most with my 308 as I have had it the longest. Basically it depends on you. Do you like power? More to the real point is what can you handle? You should be able to shoot a whole box and get consistent kill shots out of the next 5 out of a new box. The first shot is what counts so too much powder/power can cause flinching. Find something that you cam honestly handle and practice. I have also owned and hunted with a 6.5x55. Good round for 250 and less. I have a 30-06 but it is a collector piece so I have never sjhot it.
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#1251190 - 03/21/09 09:48 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: TennBuck]
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#1257489 - 03/25/09 04:42 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: Gravey]
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win270 is the only one for me...
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#1260235 - 03/26/09 07:20 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: dirtturner]
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 Originally Posted By: dirtturner
.243 is too light for 300yds. It will kill but so will a 204. 25-06 is too light. Yes again it will kill but is not the best idea at that range. Anything from a 240 Weatherby to 300 anything. Yes the 240 mag is slightly lighter but it is a Weatherby magnum so it has the knockdown power. I use 3 Weatherbys: 240, 270 & 300. All will kill out to 400 cleanly in 1 shot. I have shot my 240 out to 400+ and killed my biggest deer yet this past season with it. It was well past 400. My 270 has hit and one-shot killed at 405. My 300 several between. 250-350. I shoot long range for practice...alot. It is difficult and expensive but it really does pay off. I also use a 444, 308, have used a 8mm and am going to try my S&W model 29-3 again this fall. Killed a doe just under 100 yds with the 44. I have also killed deer with my 243, but under 250 and under. Killed the most with my 308 as I have had it the longest. Basically it depends on you. Do you like power? More to the real point is what can you handle? You should be able to shoot a whole box and get consistent kill shots out of the next 5 out of a new box. The first shot is what counts so too much powder/power can cause flinching. Find something that you cam honestly handle and practice. I have also owned and hunted with a 6.5x55. Good round for 250 and less. I have a 30-06 but it is a collector piece so I have never sjhot it.




The 25-06 is too light for 300 yards? I guess that why its the most popular pronghorn round out there where shots are regularly taken way past 300 yards. You do not need a magnum to kill game at 300 yards, you just need to be able to place your shot.
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#1261314 - 03/26/09 05:40 PM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: Kimberman]
Locksley
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 Originally Posted By: Kimberman
 Originally Posted By: dirtturner
.243 is too light for 300yds. It will kill but so will a 204. 25-06 is too light. Yes again it will kill but is not the best idea at that range. Anything from a 240 Weatherby to 300 anything. Yes the 240 mag is slightly lighter but it is a Weatherby magnum so it has the knockdown power. I use 3 Weatherbys: 240, 270 & 300. All will kill out to 400 cleanly in 1 shot. I have shot my 240 out to 400+ and killed my biggest deer yet this past season with it. It was well past 400. My 270 has hit and one-shot killed at 405. My 300 several between. 250-350. I shoot long range for practice...alot. It is difficult and expensive but it really does pay off. I also use a 444, 308, have used a 8mm and am going to try my S&W model 29-3 again this fall. Killed a doe just under 100 yds with the 44. I have also killed deer with my 243, but under 250 and under. Killed the most with my 308 as I have had it the longest. Basically it depends on you. Do you like power? More to the real point is what can you handle? You should be able to shoot a whole box and get consistent kill shots out of the next 5 out of a new box. The first shot is what counts so too much powder/power can cause flinching. Find something that you cam honestly handle and practice. I have also owned and hunted with a 6.5x55. Good round for 250 and less. I have a 30-06 but it is a collector piece so I have never sjhot it.




The 25-06 is too light for 300 yards? I guess that why its the most popular pronghorn round out there where shots are regularly taken way past 300 yards. You do not need a magnum to kill game at 300 yards, you just need to be able to place your shot.


The 25/06 is not a magnum in name but it is really a magnum without a belt.
Locksley
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#1261346 - 03/26/09 06:00 PM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: Locksley]
Model70Man
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 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Kimberman
 Originally Posted By: dirtturner
.243 is too light for 300yds. It will kill but so will a 204. 25-06 is too light. Yes again it will kill but is not the best idea at that range. Anything from a 240 Weatherby to 300 anything. Yes the 240 mag is slightly lighter but it is a Weatherby magnum so it has the knockdown power. I use 3 Weatherbys: 240, 270 & 300. All will kill out to 400 cleanly in 1 shot. I have shot my 240 out to 400+ and killed my biggest deer yet this past season with it. It was well past 400. My 270 has hit and one-shot killed at 405. My 300 several between. 250-350. I shoot long range for practice...alot. It is difficult and expensive but it really does pay off. I also use a 444, 308, have used a 8mm and am going to try my S&W model 29-3 again this fall. Killed a doe just under 100 yds with the 44. I have also killed deer with my 243, but under 250 and under. Killed the most with my 308 as I have had it the longest. Basically it depends on you. Do you like power? More to the real point is what can you handle? You should be able to shoot a whole box and get consistent kill shots out of the next 5 out of a new box. The first shot is what counts so too much powder/power can cause flinching. Find something that you cam honestly handle and practice. I have also owned and hunted with a 6.5x55. Good round for 250 and less. I have a 30-06 but it is a collector piece so I have never sjhot it.




The 25-06 is too light for 300 yards? I guess that why its the most popular pronghorn round out there where shots are regularly taken way past 300 yards. You do not need a magnum to kill game at 300 yards, you just need to be able to place your shot.


The 25/06 is not a magnum in name but it is really a magnum without a belt.
Locksley


So the 270 Win. and the 30-06 are also a magnum without a belt?

The 25-06 is a 30-06 case necked down to a 25 cal.
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#1261501 - 03/26/09 07:35 PM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: Model70Man]
Locksley
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Kimberman
 Originally Posted By: dirtturner
.243 is too light for 300yds. It will kill but so will a 204. 25-06 is too light. Yes again it will kill but is not the best idea at that range. Anything from a 240 Weatherby to 300 anything. Yes the 240 mag is slightly lighter but it is a Weatherby magnum so it has the knockdown power. I use 3 Weatherbys: 240, 270 & 300. All will kill out to 400 cleanly in 1 shot. I have shot my 240 out to 400+ and killed my biggest deer yet this past season with it. It was well past 400. My 270 has hit and one-shot killed at 405. My 300 several between. 250-350. I shoot long range for practice...alot. It is difficult and expensive but it really does pay off. I also use a 444, 308, have used a 8mm and am going to try my S&W model 29-3 again this fall. Killed a doe just under 100 yds with the 44. I have also killed deer with my 243, but under 250 and under. Killed the most with my 308 as I have had it the longest. Basically it depends on you. Do you like power? More to the real point is what can you handle? You should be able to shoot a whole box and get consistent kill shots out of the next 5 out of a new box. The first shot is what counts so too much powder/power can cause flinching. Find something that you cam honestly handle and practice. I have also owned and hunted with a 6.5x55. Good round for 250 and less. I have a 30-06 but it is a collector piece so I have never sjhot it.




The 25-06 is too light for 300 yards? I guess that why its the most popular pronghorn round out there where shots are regularly taken way past 300 yards. You do not need a magnum to kill game at 300 yards, you just need to be able to place your shot.


The 25/06 is not a magnum in name but it is really a magnum without a belt.
Locksley


So the 270 Win. and the 30-06 are also a magnum without a belt?

The 25-06 is a 30-06 case necked down to a 25 cal.


The 25 calibers are way over bore with that much powder . The larger 27 and 30 calibers not so much so. The Europeans would call the 30/06 or the 270 Winchester an Express caliber which is perty much a magnum.
7.62 X 63 MM is about one of the most powerful military calibers ever used by any country. We never lost a war while useing the big 30 caliber rifles either.
Locksley

the .25-06.

The cartridge has mild recoil, somewhat below the .270 Winchester but more than the .243 Winchester and .257 Roberts. Shooters who are recoil sensitive will find the recoil from the 25-06 bearable, but not pleasant enough to shoot all day long. This cartridge is nearly as powerful as the .257 Weatherby Magnum, usually running 100-150 ft/s. slower with a given bullet weight.

SAAMI pressure limit for the .25-06 is 63,000 PSI.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/25-06



The .30-06 Springfield cartridge (pronounced “thirty-aught-six” or "thirty-oh-six") or 7.62 x 63 mm in metric notation, was introduced to the United States Army in 1906 (hence “06”) and standardized, used until the 1960s and early 1970s. It replaced the .30-03, 6 mm Lee Navy and .30 US Army (also called .30-40 Krag). The .30-06 remained the US Army's main cartridge for nearly 50 years before it was finally replaced by the 7.62 x 51 mm (7.62x51mm NATO, commercial .308 Winchester). It remains the most popular big-game cartridge in North America, and among the most popular worldwide.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.30-06_Springfield


Edited by Locksley (03/26/09 07:45 PM)
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#1261613 - 03/26/09 08:32 PM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: Locksley]
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#1285566 - 04/11/09 08:37 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: cecil30-30]
jakeway
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 Originally Posted By: cecil30-30
Can't go wrong with a 30-06!


But a 270 WIN shoots faster, flatter, farther, less kick, and just as effective at the terminal end.

The 30-06 is probably the most versatile of all rifles for all of North America, but it's probably not the best at anything.
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#1285676 - 04/11/09 11:03 AM Re: Best rifle caliber for deer? [Re: jakeway]
mike243
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jakeway i pulled up rems balistics on the 2,i dont see no whuppin by the 270,what i do see is more energy avalible in the 30-06,heres the heavest load for 270 & a matching for 30-06 plus the litest ,i only pulled the express as its got wieghts in both cal

Cartridge Information
Index Number Cartridge Type Weight (grs.) Bullet Style Primer No. Ballistic Coefficient
R270W1 Remington® Express® 100 Pointed Soft Point 9 1/2 0.252
R270W4 Remington® Express® 150 Soft Point Core-Lokt® 9 1/2 0.261
R30061 Remington® Express® 125 Pointed Soft Point 9 1/2 0.268
R30063 Remington® Express® 150 Bronze Point™ 9 1/2 0.365


Velocity (ft/sec)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 100 PSP 3320 2924 2561 2225 1916 1636
Remington® Express® 150 SP CL 2850 2504 2183 1886 1618 1385
Remington® Express® 125 PSP 3140 2780 2447 2138 1853 1595
Remington® Express® 150 BP 2910 2656 2416 2189 1974 1773


Energy (ft-lbs)
Cartridge Type Bullet Muzzle 100 200 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 100 PSP 2448 1898 1456 1099 815 594
Remington® Express® 150 SP CL 2705 2087 1587 1185 872 639
Remington® Express® 125 PSP 2736 2145 1662 1269 953 706
Remington® Express® 150 BP 2820 2349 1944 1596 1298 1047


Short-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet ------50 100 150 200 250 300
Remington® Express® 100 PSP 0.0 0.5 zero -1.6 -4.6 -9.1
Remington® Express® 150 SP CL 0.3 0.8 zero -2.4 -6.7 -13.0
Remington® Express® 125 PSP 0.0 0.6 zero -1.9 -5.2 -10.1
Remington® Express® 150 BP 0.2 0.7 zero -2.0 -5.6 -10.8


Long-Range Trajectory
Cartridge Type Bullet------- 100 150 200 250 300 400 500
Remington® Express® 100 PSP 2.3 2.8 2.0 zero -3.6 -16.2 -38.5
Remington® Express® 150 SP CL 2.0 1.8 zero -3.6 -9.4 -28.6 -61.2
Remington® Express® 125 PSP 1.5 1.4 zero -2.8 -7.4 -22.4 -47.6
Remington® Express® 150 BP 1.7 1.5 zero -3.0 -7.7 -22.7 -46.6

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