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#1257690 - 03/25/09 09:24 AM Need reliable truck for towing bass boat
JimFromTN
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I posted this in the general topics forum but thought I would post it here also.

The transmission went out on my 1997 mercury mountaineer with 5.0 ltr engine and it has over 250,000 miles on it and I don't want to invest $1500 to $2000 into it. The max I can afford is $4000, but I want something I can get another 75,000 to 100,000 miles out of before the repair bills start racking up and I dump it off to get another one.

I have a 18 1/2 foot bass boat that weighs somewhere in the 2500lb range so I want a full sized pickup truck. The larger 6 cylinders would work but I want an 8 cylinder. I feel like they will last longer. I don't think anyone has made a good 6 cylinder since ford stopped making their straight 6. I also don't want an suv anymore because I need it for a work truck also.

I have found several 1999 F250's with the 5.4 ltr gas engine with around 150,000 miles on them in my price range. They seem like they would fit the bill perfectly but I am a little worried. I used to be a tried and true ford truck man until they came out with the triton engines in the late 90's. Apparently, they have a tendency to throw plugs. I have also been told by a mechanic friend that it takes a professional mechanic 3 hours to change out the spark plugs on these engines. The plug throwing does not cost much money to repair unless its one of the hard to get to plugs in the back or in the worse case, it strips out the head so bad that you have to replace it. One of the F250's I found, the add admits that 3 plug sleeves have been installed which means that truck alone has already thrown 3 plugs on different occasions. Ford is well aware of this issue and has fixed it in the newer models but won't recall the older ones because it would bankrupt the company to recall every vehicle with a triton engine in it between 1998 and 2003.

Even thow statistically there is probably only one chance in 10,000 that this would happen to me, it makes me want to stay away from any ford truck newer than 1996 because thats my luck.

I have found dodges in my price range as well but their reputation is worse than the fords.

It looks like Chevy but it does not look like I could not get a descent truck in my price range.

Any suggestions? This is killing me. I need to be out on the lake but I can't get there.

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#1257937 - 03/25/09 10:52 AM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: JimFromTN]
bobthebowhunter
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I have a 2001 Silverado. Automatic 138K/ 4.8L V8/ 4x4 32" tires. Rebuilt trans has 5k-8k on it, new fuel pump last fall. AC works(basicly replaced everything that goes bad on a chev after 125k) I believe the intake maifold gasket(s) is leaking, but that doesn't seem to affect how it runs. you just have to add coolent. I run synthetic in it. It's a reg cab, long bed, in black. tool box, towing package, factory chrome wheels, new rubber last summer, true dual exhaust (flowmaster super40). CD player, tuner don't work. vinyl floors, every thing in th cab is basic no power opitons. Haven't been inclined to sell it, but I thought i'd see what you would offer me for it.
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#1258560 - 03/25/09 04:25 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: bobthebowhunter]
TNLynn
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Spend the $2000 on a tranny with warranty and buy a $2000 4 or 6 cyclinder work truck. $4000 total
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#1259530 - 03/25/09 08:15 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: TNLynn]
Kevin
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2001 chevy z71 extended cab. 285 bfg all terrains, i have no problem towing my boat, or my 4 wheeler trailer.

oh yea, 165k miles on it, keep it well maintained, and it'll last forever.
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#1260877 - 03/26/09 02:28 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: ]
J Hartman
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
Do not buy a chevy. I have always driven Fords, and they did fine. I dumped a F350 diesel when diesel skyrocketed for a Chevy Z71, and it has been nothing but trouble.



Depends on what you dumped it for, I'm 23, Have had two chevy trucks, 2001 and 2006 which is my newwer one now... My brother rides chevy silverado(2009), my (might as well, be my brother he lived with me for a long time)) other brother has a 64 chevy c10 stepside, 76 chevy, and a gas guzzling, 454 3500 crew cab dually... oh ya, dad has a 96 chevy silverado, and mom a chevy trailblazer... I guess it's a family tradition, but I've seen more fords being towed behind my truck and dads that I care to talk about... Girlfriends dad rides ford, and his sh*t is always broke... 99 model. . . their little s10 has 200k on it and keeps on a truckin... I got 224,XXX out of my 2001, and bought my 2006 about 6 months ago used with 26,XXX, and plan, to ride it til i breaks, then buy another chevy.... lol, I guess I just grew up with them. haha. But ya. we don't see much trouble out of our crew at all... If something goes down it's usually a $60 sensor which is no big deal to get to...



I'd go for the chevy 1500, 5.3L, that's what I have now. And it rocks.
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#1260878 - 03/26/09 02:30 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: J Hartman]
J Hartman
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I would look for the 99-02 models, You can find decent deals on those trucks, from $4. but it would be bare bones.... Wish I would have ran into you sooner I sold my first silverado to a buddy for $1500.00
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#1261257 - 03/26/09 05:22 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: J Hartman]
rem270
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cant go wrong with fords. i grew up from a ford family. ive had a 95 and an 02.. now my dad has the 02. i bought an 05 chevy colorado 4x4 in september its a good truck but i guess im just partial to ford. my chevys a 4 cyl 5spd and pulls a trailor and 4 wheeler good.
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#1261519 - 03/26/09 07:47 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: rem270]
rutnstrut2
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I have always been a chevy man but I am getting ready to buy a f250 superduty because I can not pass up the deal I am getting on it. So if any one on here has a 04 diesel 6.0 and knows I should not get it let me know it has 119k on it.
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#1262464 - 03/27/09 08:32 AM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: rutnstrut2]
J Hartman
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rut, one of my friends has one of those fords, and he says the only thing wrong with his is that it eats up fron wheel bearings, not sure how often, but I can check back with him if you want...
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#1262484 - 03/27/09 08:49 AM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: J Hartman]
JimFromTN
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I have been ponding the idea of getting a deisel. They last a whole lot longer and get better gas mileage in most cases. I heard the ford has a new chip out for their deisels and they are getting 25mgh. That could just be a rumor and I doubt they would work on the older models. The downside is the fact that deisel is more expensive, which is confusing considering that it is a by-product, and not all mechanics work on them.
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#1266430 - 03/29/09 02:37 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: rutnstrut2]
medic
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 Originally Posted By: rutnstrut2
I have always been a chevy man but I am getting ready to buy a f250 superduty because I can not pass up the deal I am getting on it. So if any one on here has a 04 diesel 6.0 and knows I should not get it let me know it has 119k on it.


I have a '04 F350 with the 6.0 and have not had any problems.
Get the VIN # off the truck and have a ford dealer run it and see if it has had alot of repairs. Check the build date, late '04 had fewer problems.
Mine gets around 18 MPG.
I have 97K on it.
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#1266801 - 03/29/09 06:57 PM Re: Need reliable truck for towing bass boat [Re: JimFromTN]
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the reason why the tritons 4.6, 5.4, 6.8l motors were throwing plugs is that they had little threads on the spark plug itself. the revised plug has almost twice the threads as the old one.
at least the guy selling that truck was being honest, but dont be deturred about this, put revised plugs in youll never have problem. ive seen govt vehicles that have over 250k and goin strong. in most cases the plug will just back itself out without stripping, but when its stripped you can try the sleeve kit...do not know how long they last. my buddys f-150 had the short thread on one side and long thread on the other..original plugs.
as for the diesels the early 6.0s had the turbo hose that popped off and like dozens of recalls. and the later ones had all fixed expt minor progrmming recalls, keep away from aftermarket performance chips.
if u can change your front brakes u can change the front hub bearing 4x4 only, this happened to my left front hub, but it gave me plenty of warning, also replace only the one that is affected, no need to replace both.
as with any manufacturer there will always be a bad batch of vehicles.... u tend to hear about the bad ones more then the good ones.
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