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#1227225 - 03/10/09 12:37 AM Re: Depressing [Re: Hillbilly Hunter]
smstone22
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Registered: 01/11/04
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 Originally Posted By: Hillbilly Hunter
I have had 4 years in a row of poor hatchings. I have about 25 percent of the birds I did 5 years ago. I hope this trend ends soon. I quit hunting last year because there simply wasn't enough birds. I was afraid to kill anymore.


Ditto man. I almost feel bad shooting one here now.
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#1228043 - 03/10/09 10:14 AM Re: Depressing [Re: gil1]
megalomaniac
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Registered: 10/28/05
Posts: 5051
Loc: Mississippi

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 Originally Posted By: gil1
I don't know what to think about that type of soft data.


The data isn't soft, though... Kill numbers have been nosediving statewide over the past 3 years. Population IS down and will continue to decline under current liberal harvest regulations unless spring hatches improve.

I imposed a 2 bird limit on myself and those that hunt my properties several years ago. Even though we took 5 birds in the first 3 days of last years season (3 people), and I was done with the killing, I kept on hunting. Called in several other birds within gun range and just passed on them... which is just as fun to me.

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#1228100 - 03/10/09 10:45 AM Re: Depressing [Re: megalomaniac]
Lawrence
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Registered: 10/03/07
Posts: 1906
Loc: MT. Juliet Tennessee

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 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: gil1
I don't know what to think about that type of soft data.


The data isn't soft, though... Kill numbers have been nosediving statewide over the past 3 years. Population IS down and will continue to decline under current liberal harvest regulations unless spring hatches improve.

I imposed a 2 bird limit on myself and those that hunt my properties several years ago. Even though we took 5 birds in the first 3 days of last years season (3 people), and I was done with the killing, I kept on hunting. Called in several other birds within gun range and just passed on them... which is just as fun to me.

GOOD FOR YOU ON PASSING BIRDS
Hunters like to complain when the numbers are down but they still continue to blast away.
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#1228155 - 03/10/09 11:41 AM Re: Depressing [Re: Lawrence]
gil1
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Registered: 04/06/07
Posts: 6339
Loc: Nashville, TN

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 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: gil1
I don't know what to think about that type of soft data.


The data isn't soft, though... Kill numbers have been nosediving statewide over the past 3 years. Population IS down and will continue to decline under current liberal harvest regulations unless spring hatches improve.

I imposed a 2 bird limit on myself and those that hunt my properties several years ago. Even though we took 5 birds in the first 3 days of last years season (3 people), and I was done with the killing, I kept on hunting. Called in several other birds within gun range and just passed on them... which is just as fun to me.

GOOD FOR YOU ON PASSING BIRDS
Hunters like to complain when the numbers are down but they still continue to blast away.


It's not exactly the same thing, but instead of passing up birds, I just started bow only a few years ago. Last year, I called 6 gobblers within shotgun range. 3 of those came within bow range. I didn't get a shot at any of them. I don't have to pass them up - they pass ME up! \:D
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#1228182 - 03/10/09 11:58 AM Re: Depressing [Re: gil1]
megalomaniac
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Loc: Mississippi

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 Originally Posted By: gil1
 Originally Posted By: Lawrence
 Originally Posted By: megalomaniac
 Originally Posted By: gil1
I don't know what to think about that type of soft data.


The data isn't soft, though... Kill numbers have been nosediving statewide over the past 3 years. Population IS down and will continue to decline under current liberal harvest regulations unless spring hatches improve.

I imposed a 2 bird limit on myself and those that hunt my properties several years ago. Even though we took 5 birds in the first 3 days of last years season (3 people), and I was done with the killing, I kept on hunting. Called in several other birds within gun range and just passed on them... which is just as fun to me.

GOOD FOR YOU ON PASSING BIRDS
Hunters like to complain when the numbers are down but they still continue to blast away.


It's not exactly the same thing, but instead of passing up birds, I just started bow only a few years ago. Last year, I called 6 gobblers within shotgun range. 3 of those came within bow range. I didn't get a shot at any of them. I don't have to pass them up - they pass ME up! \:D


LOL!

I bowhunted for them several years ago and never cussed so much my entire life. I made myself a vow that year to never, ever, do that again \:\)

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#1228192 - 03/10/09 12:01 PM Re: Depressing [Re: gil1]
muddyboots
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You know, whether it is caused by higher limits, poor hatches or that curve thing someone posted about the other day it just basically sucks. This property is 900 acres of pines, hardwoods and fields. As few as 5 years ago you could hear between 8 to 12 birds gobble any morning you went. Everytime you hunted you saw turkeys. Now you are lucky to hear one and can go two or three days and not see one. Its like they just vanished. this is where i learned to turkey hunt and it is just sad.
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#1228338 - 03/10/09 12:42 PM Re: Depressing [Re: muddyboots]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
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Muddyboots,
Is this on your lease across the road from me, or on your other lease. We have about a 1/4 of the birds we had 4 years ago.
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#1228390 - 03/10/09 01:09 PM Re: Depressing [Re: 8 POINTS OR BETTER]
muddyboots
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Both leases are down. The one at Hardins Creek and at Gillis Mills.
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#1228397 - 03/10/09 01:15 PM Re: Depressing [Re: muddyboots]
muddyboots
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I personally think it is the limits. The places that have historically been good hunting - In other words the places people knew that there were turkeys there and got hunted alot are way down. The places that didnt used to have turkeys are up. Very weird.
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#1228450 - 03/10/09 01:40 PM Re: Depressing [Re: muddyboots]
8 POINTS OR BETTER
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I think its the limit and the bad hatches. I only seen four jakes all of last season, and two the season before. For years we would have between 10 and 20 jakes on our farm each season. Most of the toms we have (less than a dozen) are over 4 years old, when they are gone we will be in bad shape. Even if we have a good hatch next year it will be two years before I hunt them. I use to hunt in MO back in the late 80's early 90's, I'll probably be hunting there some again next year.
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