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#1228313 - 03/10/09 12:34 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: bowriter]
bowriter
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Here's how you use a John boat.

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#1228388 - 03/10/09 01:09 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: bob]
Tubakka
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 Originally Posted By: bob
Im going to go out on a limb here and guess they like those boats because the image they convey, the comfort level, and the versatility to use on just about any river in the state. All things considered Id say the most important thing is that it separates them for loud mouthed rude inconsiderate know it all people like yourself. I realize that for your style of fishing with bobbers, plastic minnows made in China, worms, corn and two zebco 202 rods, a 12 jon with a trolling motor works just fine. Someday you might actually want to take off those training wheels and try a form of fishing that is actually challenging both mentally and physically.


I use jerkbaits because in my opinion they're the best tool for the job. Just because it doesn't take a twelve week study course to learn how to cast the dern thing doesn't mean I'm any less of an angler. Physically challenging? Guess I considered the whole "dragging the jon boat over the shallow parts upstream after dark" the physically challenging part. I fished out of a drift boat and with only two of us it was rather a chore going between oaring and fishing and you couldn't do both at the same time like with a jon and trolling motor. I didn't like that at all. Considering the fact that my partner was an expert and I was not, it was quite a chore anyway. I just never got the whole not being able to go back upstream part.

I know with my 9.9 even on falling water, there are few places that I am not able to get back upstream in. I'd just raise the tilt and it'd go over most areas if you knew the deeper parts just fine. Of course, I'm not afraid to bang up a prop now and then, but that's what they're for. There are very few if any spots on the Caney except on the lowest water that cannot accomodate a jon boat, and even then, you're better off just wading them anyway, IMO. Seems like a lot of money to fork out for something that is kind of a one trick pony, and not the best trained one for that show at that. The Hiawasse from what I understand is a different story as well as many the S. HOlston in areas, but not the Caney. The best rig I ever saw out there was a guide who had a gheenoe with a jet 30 on the back and and an oar placement in the middle where the two clients could stand up on either end with stability and have plenty of room to cast and fish. Smart, very smart.

Bob, the day I even consider picking up the fly rod and do this "challenge" thing is the day I feel like I've tapped into the potential of the tailrace and have accumulated the peak of knowledge that i can on that body. Until then I'm going ot use the means of tackle that I"m most fluent on. By peak knowledge, I mean that I can take conventional efficient means and pull 30" fish regularly, like 1 out of every 4 trips. It can be done, I know. They are there, and I'm sure it can be done with some of the approaches I want to try. Only time will tell...I have seen them far too consistently on my presentation to know that I'm that far off.

By the way, I use an 802 Abu Garcia and a short stout spinning rod taht I customize by breaking off the first 6 inches, not a zebco 202. And I've never used corn or worms on that river in my life. Besides, I know guys that use that kind of tackle and outfish the guys you are referring to as the more "physically and mentally" astute anglers all the time. Tackle means nothing. Knowledge is everything; tackle is only serving as a tool to accomplish it.

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#1228392 - 03/10/09 01:11 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: Tubakka]
Tubakka
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Btw the way BD, if you ever want to get back a lost rod, pick up a few spoonplugs. I've caught back more rods than you can imagine, both mine and my friends lost on the day, and old tackle as well. Got a few nice reels combos that way trolling roadbeds. My dad one time, in one day, trolling the same point, caught back 8 lures he had lost previously off a single stump. It was almost supernatural...one of them was hooked to the lure then hooked to another line, which was then attached to another lure...?!?!?! They hug the bottom like nothing else.
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#1228409 - 03/10/09 01:22 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: Tubakka]
7mm08
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BD,
All you have to have on a Loomis is the butt section with the name Loomis on it and it replaced, no questions asked, and no warranty cards. I called and had this clarified before I sunk money into my 9wt 4pc. Cross Current as my new striper/salt rod.

Tubs,
You sound like a Democrat/Socialist....I mean you want everyone to own a john boat or nothing else? Geez, fish the way you want, and I will fish the way I want. I personally love drift boats and had one for years. I could care less how someone fishes as long as they obey the laws.

Take my fishing advise....Lighten up, life is too short. Your libel to get hypertensive ranting about jerkbaits and hating flyfishermen, develop a small tear in your Left Anterior Descending, develop some plague and clot, especially if you smoke...and then...hell it want matter how you fished or anyone else for that matter.


Edited by 7mm08 (03/10/09 01:25 PM)
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#1228497 - 03/10/09 02:12 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: 7mm08]
Trapper John
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I'm buying a grill for my little pond boat. After reading Gil's account of a similar setup I can't deny it.

If I ever find that rod I will not toast it.

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#1228581 - 03/10/09 03:34 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: Trapper John]
bowriter
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Oh just give me a breast pump and let me take a walk in the woods.

It's just fishing. It aint like it is important.
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#1228589 - 03/10/09 03:39 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
Oh just give me a breast pump and let me take a walk in the woods.


That one really got me! \:D \:D \:D
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#1230231 - 03/11/09 11:38 AM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: Tubakka]
B.D.
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 Originally Posted By: Tubakka
Btw the way BD, if you ever want to get back a lost rod, pick up a few spoonplugs.


Whew. I thought there was no possible way Buck Perry could be brought into this conversation, but you went and did it.



Nice work!

bd

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#1230265 - 03/11/09 11:59 AM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: gil1]
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Hey BD, the forecasted generation schedule poses some opportunity to get in the water by that tree. Looks like it is a bit relaxed for the next 5 days. I just hope it's still there and hasn't been trampled on. Good luck in finding it. We didn't have enough time to go looking before the water hit .
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#1230327 - 03/11/09 12:55 PM Re: Lost Rod Sections on the Caney Fork [Re: TNFishnstix]
B.D.
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Thanks for trying for me. I'll be up there at some point this weekend and I'll have a look around for sure. Even if it's been trampled, I'd still love to get it back because it takes the suspense out of the warranty issue.

bd

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