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#1211592 - 03/03/09 05:47 AM Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet.
ghosthunter
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I've been usind fluorocarbon tippet lately, but I think it's too stiff and I'm sure the trout can still see it. I'm thinking getting a good drift is much more important than the visibility of the line.
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#1211595 - 03/03/09 05:51 AM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: ghosthunter]
Radar
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I haven't used it for tippet yet , but I do use it on my baitcasting outfits. I have read of guys using it for tippets and some guys liked it better than tapered leaders. It is supposed to be less visible under water than mono.
It does sink faster than mono of comparable test strength. That may be affecting the drift?
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#1211749 - 03/03/09 07:57 AM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: Radar]
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I agree that getting a good drift is more important. If you can't get a good drift, it doesn't matter what kind of line you use - you won't catch fish. Also, line visibility only goes so far. A hundred years ago, people were fly fishing with silkworm gut, which is WAY more visible than the thickest monofilament, and they still caught some fish.

That said, all other things being equal, fluorocarbon tippet will give you an advantage.

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#1211772 - 03/03/09 08:05 AM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: B.D.]
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Flouro is great and really helps out when fishing nymphs or streamers. It is less visible then regular mono, but is much heavier. The extra weight helps with getting flies down. It is also very abrasion resistant. Priceless for nymph fishing IMO.

Now for dries, mono is the only way to fly IMO. Flouro will sink and create micro drag or even pull small dries under. It is also very shiny when not submerged, so it can and will spook fish.

Never play with flouro leaders unless you are streamer fishing, the heavy butt sections sink like a rock.
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#1211994 - 03/03/09 09:35 AM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: captain hook]
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They both have their applications where they shine. Much like conventional line you have to give something to get something. Flouro is virtually invisible underwater but its stiffer. Mono is not invisible but it floats and does not have the abrasion resistance that flouro does. All things considered if you fish floating flies stay with mono. If you fish nymphs or midges flouro is the ticket. If your like most versitile fly fisherman and fish whatever works try a spool of both in your vest. Let the situation dictate your choice rather than try to make one tippet material do both.

Edited by Fordman (03/03/09 06:43 PM)

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#1213542 - 03/03/09 06:32 PM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: Fordman]
jakeway
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For wets and nymphs my leaders have butt sections of 25, 20, and 15 lb red Amnesia; mid section of 10,8, and 6 lb Vanish flouro, and tippets of 5x and/or 6X mono. I also have 7X mono and 6x Flouro tippet material, but seldom use them.

For streamers I use 18" of 20 lb mono and 18" of 10 or 12 lb mono, with a sinking line.

For dries I usually either use the same leader as for nymphng (usually because I'm originally nypmphing when the fish start rising) or I put on a tapered leader with mono tippet of appropriate size.
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#1213655 - 03/03/09 07:03 PM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: jakeway]
B.D.
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I'm not patient enough to build my own leaders. \:\)

For nymphing I use a 9' tapered leader, usually 5x, and I add a few feet of 5x to 7x fluoro tippet depending on conditions.

For streamers I just go with a single level piece of 10 or 12 lb. line, usually fluoro. I haven't found that I get much benefit from a tapered leader when I'm throwing big streamers on a sinking line or shooting head. Plus, I want as few knots (breaking points) between the flyline and the fly as possible when I might be getting a vicious strike from a really big brown or striper.

I never get enough good opportunities to dry fly fish to have a special leader for them. \:\)

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#1214408 - 03/03/09 10:30 PM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: B.D.]
gil1
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I build my own but only because I have to. I started using that Whitlock Line to Leader system where you glue the butt section of your tippet inside the core of the fly line. I love it because you can pull the leader through the guides when you land a fish. It seems to have a very smooth connection, and I haven't had one break or pull out yet.

Anyway, I've had the same butt section of the tippet on all my lines for years, so I have to build tippet to them to make leaders. It's not for everyone but I love it.

I use fluoro. If I change to a dry fly, I switch tippets to mono and grease the fluoro section with floatant.

Lemme see if I can find that Whitlock illustration for those interested.
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#1214423 - 03/03/09 10:37 PM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: gil1]
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Here it is.

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#1214544 - 03/04/09 04:32 AM Re: Fluorocarbon vs. Mono for Fly tippet. [Re: gil1]
Radar
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I saw that illustration in Whitlock's LL Bean book on fly fishing. It looks like a good connection.
As for the zapa gap ? Is that just super glue gel type adhesive ? If not , where can I buy it ?
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