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#1210806 - 03/02/09 04:51 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: B.D.]
captain hook
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Registered: 11/20/07
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 Originally Posted By: Brian Dunigan

Finally, to Captain Hook - sinking lines aren't for beginners, but if you don't use one regularly, you're missing out. Streamers for big trout and stripers - 'nuff said.

bd


This is going to come off as arrogant as anything I have ever written or said, but here goes. Do you think I just started fly-fishing yesterday? As 7mm08 can vouch, this year won't be my first calf roping. I been around the block a time or two in other words. Taught one or 1000 folks how to fish as well. Sorry for arrogance, sometimes it rears its ugly head \:D

The below were caught by me, on a floating line. Missing out??? On what?

Sure there are applications, but for someone just getting started they do not need to worry with sinking lines at this point in their career.

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#1210854 - 03/02/09 05:44 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: captain hook]
go_okfishin
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Registered: 12/14/03
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Dang, Captain good thing your not a comedian cause you sure know how to silence a room. \:D \:D \:D
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#1210858 - 03/02/09 05:46 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: captain hook]
Radar
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I'm fortunate to have learned to fly fish from my father . He was a great mentor and awesome fly fisherman. No , I'm no expert , but some of my fondest fishing memories where with my father, when we just had a flyrod fishing for gills on the beds .
Dad didn't talk about top dollar equipment , but re-enforced good technique through example. He has caught everything from bream ,bass, steelhead, and grayling , to Tarpon.
Many of you guys would probably laugh at the fiberglass flyrod and automatic reel he gave me more than 30 years ago , but it has a special meaning to me because of the memories it brings back.
Like hunting ,fly fishing doesn't have to become complicated . Just the simple enjoyment of being on the water , and sharing it with loved ones or good friends is what really matters.
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#1210864 - 03/02/09 05:50 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: B.D.]
jakeway
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Registered: 11/22/99
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 Originally Posted By: Brian Dunigan
...I do not like Bass Pro rods because the warranty sucks...

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I currently have 11 fly rods in the house, ranging from an old Eagle Claw fiberglass to Orvis Rocky Mountain, Browning, 4 different Bass Pro, a Courtland, and a TFO. Granted, none (except maybe the Orvis) retailed for over $200, but all have served me well.

I also recommend going the fly shop route for beginners (save them all the learning pains I went through over the last 45 years of fly fishing).

What I don't understand is the above comment about Bass Pro's warranty. I've only returned one Orvis reel and some Cortland line that I didn't like the feel of, and BPS took them back no questions asked. I have a good friend that broke the tip on his Bass Pro White River rod by carrying it strapped on the back of a motorcycle (without using a rod case) and they replaced it with a brand new rod, no questions, even though my buddy had no receipt for the rod.

How can you get better warranty service than that?

(Note I said Warranty Service. Many times I've gone in there and the salesman didn't know anything about the products I was inquiring about.)
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#1210919 - 03/02/09 06:13 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: jakeway]
Radar
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While I can't vouch for Bass pro fly rods , I have owned several of their baitcasting rods without a problem with any of them .
I will also mention that Bass Pro Shops are a sponsor and supporter of tndeer , and gave out many door prizes at the vous . I like to support local businesses if there are any in the area , but I will also support the sponsors of this website too . They help pay the bills to keep the website up and allow us to share information on these forums.
Note the BPS banner at the top of the page . ;\)
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#1210949 - 03/02/09 06:17 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Radar]
madMax
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Registered: 04/09/08
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 Originally Posted By: Scott61
I'm fortunate to have learned to fly fish from my father . He was a great mentor and awesome fly fisherman. No , I'm no expert , but some of my fondest fishing memories where with my father, when we just had a flyrod fishing for gills on the beds .
Dad didn't talk about top dollar equipment , but re-enforced good technique through example. He has caught everything from bream ,bass, steelhead, and grayling , to Tarpon.
Many of you guys would probably laugh at the fiberglass flyrod and automatic reel he gave me more than 30 years ago , but it has a special meaning to me because of the memories it brings back.
Like hunting ,fly fishing doesn't have to become complicated . Just the simple enjoyment of being on the water , and sharing it with loved ones or good friends is what really matters.


Dont worry Scott, Im with you on this one. Dad taught himself with a cheap fiberglass and taught me with one. I still use it, the cheap ole Pflueger has served me well 15 years..hows that for quality? Caught everything from 3 and 4 lb river smallies to trout to BIG ole carp on it. I spin fish way more than flyfish but when I use it, it always brings back memories. Dont let anyone on here tell you that you need $200+ to get started in flyfishing.


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#1211007 - 03/02/09 06:59 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: madMax]
snaildarter
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Registered: 11/16/06
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I'm a st. croix and g loomis fan myself. I've fished rivers from Utah, Colorado, Idaho, Arkasas to the headwater streams in the smokies with a 7'6" gl2 4 wt rod. In my eyes it is the perfect trout rod. I've got a 8'6" 5wt/6wt that I use on the lake fishing for bass that I picked up cheap from http://www.albrightflyfish.com/ , it is ok.

If anyone happens to pass thru Chattanooga they have a sweet deal on a 9' 7wt St. croix right now. I'm debating picking one up next week when I'm back down there.

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#1211060 - 03/02/09 07:35 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: madMax]
Fordman
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Registered: 08/06/00
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 Originally Posted By: MaxD
 Originally Posted By: Scott61
I'm fortunate to have learned to fly fish from my father . He was a great mentor and awesome fly fisherman. No , I'm no expert , but some of my fondest fishing memories where with my father, when we just had a flyrod fishing for gills on the beds .
Dad didn't talk about top dollar equipment , but re-enforced good technique through example. He has caught everything from bream ,bass, steelhead, and grayling , to Tarpon.
Many of you guys would probably laugh at the fiberglass flyrod and automatic reel he gave me more than 30 years ago , but it has a special meaning to me because of the memories it brings back.
Like hunting ,fly fishing doesn't have to become complicated . Just the simple enjoyment of being on the water , and sharing it with loved ones or good friends is what really matters.


Dont worry Scott, Im with you on this one. Dad taught himself with a cheap fiberglass and taught me with one. I still use it, the cheap ole Pflueger has served me well 15 years..hows that for quality? Caught everything from 3 and 4 lb river smallies to trout to BIG ole carp on it. I spin fish way more than flyfish but when I use it, it always brings back memories. Dont let anyone on here tell you that you need $200+ to get started in flyfishing. Alot of these guys are just Orvis fly only fanboys no matter how much they try to hide it...dang Im sounding too much like Tubby Tubs I gotta stop posting for awhile.

I am not trying to pick a fight here but why is it a fisherman can own the best casting rods, high dollar reels, a 40K plus boat and literally thousands in terminal tackle and thats just fishing. Yet let a flyfisherman post and I have to hear the bullshite about orvis boys? SO freaking what that I like to use the best equipment I can afford. How is my 600 dollar sage z axis any different that a 600 dollar bow or a 600 dollar rifle? Someone please tell me why a person who is serious about fly fishing has be be poked in the eye by some of you.
I have a thompson A vice my father used to tie flies on when I was a kid. Do I use it? About once a year when I take a trip down memory lane. I choose to tie on a "high dollar" vice for two reasons. First its a better vice and second because I freaking want to.
As far as rods go... I fish at the minimum a 100 days a year on my own plus another 50 as a guide. That fact alone negates the issue of price on a rod, all I want it Quality. Sometimes quality costs more and I am fine with that. What I am getting sick of is that fact that everytime there is a decent thread about flyfishing on this site some jackleg has to pop in about how ineffective fly fishing is or how its a rich mans sport. Well those same people are the ones with 600 dollar bows, 40K boats, and 1k rifles. Its all about what you love so why do some of you look hard in the mirror before you knock a fly angler because he uses good equipment.

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#1211079 - 03/02/09 07:48 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
madMax
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I didnt mean to piss you off either - guess Ive just had too many run-ins with high dollar fly guys I hold a grudge now. Kinda like all the tournament threads that pop up every year and ppl who hold a grudge against them. I apologize. I was just letting him know you dont have to drop a few hundred dollars to catch fish or learn to fish with a flyrod thats all. Remark removed again I apologize.
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#1211091 - 03/02/09 07:52 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
7mm08
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Registered: 09/12/07
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Capt. Hook,
Sage..... Come on now. You know they are overrated. Better than Horvis, but IMO overrated for my dollar. They also only replace the section of the rod broken, unlike my favorite rods...Loomis who replace the entire rod without questions asked.

I own three Loomis rods. I loan out my Sage to beginners to striper fish with, I don't loan out my Loomis rods. If Scott had not been so stuck on Sage he might have still been in business. TFO are great for beginnners. They have no idea for how to load a rod, or let alone cast, so why spend tons of money on one?

The last TFO I bought for my son was $130 and I bought that Hobbs creek reel that I mentioned. That kid can outcast just about anyone on the Clinch, and I will put money on that statement.

NHill. If you want to go this spring let me know. I will meet you, take you to the Clinch and let you try the rod I am talking about. Just PM me and see if you can get TVA to cut the water so we can fish. OK?



Edited by 7mm08 (03/02/09 07:56 PM)
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