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#1209833 - 03/02/09 08:55 AM Intro to fly fishing
Nhill
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I have wanted to get into fly fishing for a couple of years now, and I think I am ready to dive in. Basically I want to be able to fly fish for trout, river smallies, and such. I really don't know what to look for in a fly rod. I want to get the cheapest one that I can, but I don't want to have to buy another one in a month or two because I regretted getting the cheap one. Like I said, I don't know what to look for, but I don't think that I would want a real long rod for accessibility reasons in small rivers.

Does anyone have any recommendations?
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#1209841 - 03/02/09 09:02 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Nhill]
Fordman
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 Originally Posted By: Nhill
I have wanted to get into fly fishing for a couple of years now, and I think I am ready to dive in. Basically I want to be able to fly fish for trout, river smallies, and such. I really don't know what to look for in a fly rod. I want to get the cheapest one that I can, but I don't want to have to buy another one in a month or two because I regretted getting the cheap one. Like I said, I don't know what to look for, but I don't think that I would want a real long rod for accessibility reasons in small rivers.

Does anyone have any recommendations?
Thanks



A good rod does not have to cost an arm and a leg.... just a leg..lol Look at Echo rods they retail for about 279 and carry a lifetime warrenty, have two tips a fast and a slow. If your looking to save dollars you can cut costs on a reel. Dont pinch pennies on the rod or the line. Look at the Rio series of lines. I like them because I get several seasons out of them. If your actually new and have not done it before I would strongly suggest two things. First take a casting lesson at your local fly shop. Its easier to learn right from the get go then to go back and try to forget bad habits you developed. Second book a day with a guide. You can learn volumes ffrom a good guide in a single day.

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#1209871 - 03/02/09 09:20 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
Radar
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I ordered a nice outfit from Cabela's yesterday . Check out the Wind River series .BPS also has the White River series that is a good outfit for beginners and novice fly fishermen .
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#1209883 - 03/02/09 09:26 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Radar]
Fordman
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 Originally Posted By: Scott61
I ordered a nice outfit from Cabela's yesterday . Check out the Wind River series .BPS also has the White River series that is a good outfit for beginners and novice fly fishermen .

If your only throwing a floating line they would be good. The thing most folks dont understand is that casting a 200+ grain sinking line and a weighted fly takes a rod with backbone. I am not saying those rods wont do it as I have never fishied them. I personally prefer a rod that can pick up a 250 or 300 grain sinking head and then I know for a fact it will throw a floating lilne a country mile.

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#1209887 - 03/02/09 09:26 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
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Additionally.... flyfishing is like archery..... support your local fly (pro) shops every chance you get!
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#1209902 - 03/02/09 09:33 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
Radar
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 Originally Posted By: Fordman
 Originally Posted By: Scott61
I ordered a nice outfit from Cabela's yesterday . Check out the Wind River series .BPS also has the White River series that is a good outfit for beginners and novice fly fishermen .

If your only throwing a floating line they would be good. The thing most folks dont understand is that casting a 200+ grain sinking line and a weighted fly takes a rod with backbone. I am not saying those rods wont do it as I have never fishied them. I personally prefer a rod that can pick up a 250 or 300 grain sinking head and then I know for a fact it will throw a floating lilne a country mile.


I understand . I just can't afford a high dollar setup right now . ;\) I'll be throwing a 9' 8 wt. rod for smallies and hybrid stripers .
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#1210174 - 03/02/09 11:52 AM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Radar]
captain hook
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I can think of no reason to throw a sinking line of any kind other then an intermediate in this area. Of course what do I know...

On the rods, go to Little River and cast some rods. The only way to find a rod which fits you and will be comfortable and be easy for you to learn on is to go try them out. Also you can pick up some free casting tips as well.

Mail ordering equipment is killing the small business's like LRO and others. Where you can go get hands on advice from locals any day of the week.

Don't randomly order rods, it is a recipe for failure. But what do I know...
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#1210224 - 03/02/09 12:08 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: captain hook]
Fordman
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 Originally Posted By: captain hook
I can think of no reason to throw a sinking line of any kind other then an intermediate in this area. Of course what do I know...

On the rods, go to Little River and cast some rods. The only way to find a rod which fits you and will be comfortable and be easy for you to learn on is to go try them out. Also you can pick up some free casting tips as well.

Mail ordering equipment is killing the small business's like LRO and others. Where you can go get hands on advice from locals any day of the week.

Don't randomly order rods, it is a recipe for failure. But what do I know...

Let me clarify for you... sink tips.... Guess I should have been real clear on this board with all the experts and all.

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#1210271 - 03/02/09 12:38 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
captain hook
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Okay, sink tips, I see no reason for sink tips. I am curious what applications you are using sink tips and why.

Side note: sinking lines and sink tips are cast better with slower action rods because the increased weight in the belly of line is easier to handle for a rod with a progressive action. In other words the rod loads slower and absorbs the shock caused by the weight better then a fast action rod. As a general rule large heavy things (flies or lines) are cast easier and more effectively with a slower action then with a fast action.
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#1210286 - 03/02/09 12:46 PM Re: Intro to fly fishing [Re: Fordman]
gil1
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Even though I use sink tips and intermediate sinking lines too, full sinking lines play a part in my arsenal. I don't really enjoy streamer fishing anyway (mostly because of a shoulder injury). But I use them often when I toss streamers.

I love them for stripers (in the winter only). I love them in deep holes for trout (like on the Cumberland River). I love them in deep, fast rivers for smallies when they won't hit in the top few feet of the water column. I love them for skipjacks at the steam plant (when the water is rolling, the intermediates won't get down far enough to get even a single bite).

On the other hand, I much prefer a floating line if I can get away with it.

On the rod thing, I like to tell them at the shop what I'm fishing for in what conditions and what I can spend. They pick rods for me to cast. I try out rods without looking at the price or the manufacturer.

Often, I'll pick a rod that is medium to low cost. I assume it's because my stroke is not sophisticated enough to recognize the innovative technologies of the more expensive rods.

For some reason, I have a $100 Cabelas travel rod that I can cast much better than a $500 Sage in the same weight. That certainly doesn't mean that Cabelas is better than Sage. It just means my casting style fits one and not the other. I have other Sages that cast great.

I usually buy rods with full warranties because I have broken almost every rod I own (never once on a fish). I always buy from the shops, not over the net for the reasons others stated.


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