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#1203165 - 02/26/09 09:14 PM .270 vs. 7mag
mossyoak3d
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What would be better for deer hunting? Knock down, bullet price, shooting range etc.
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#1203193 - 02/26/09 09:25 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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I like mid stream lol i have a sig 270 sighted in at 1in high at 100 yrds and it falls in right on at 300 so i would say it is a toss up to what ya really want
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#1203921 - 02/27/09 09:52 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: tnhoghunter]
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I would say .270 for price and it kills'em just as dead as the 7 mag ;\)
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#1204370 - 02/27/09 01:56 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: SALECREEKHUNTER]
stik
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go with the 270 unless you need to shoot a "magnum" to prove your manlihood.
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#1205561 - 02/28/09 06:44 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.
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#1205989 - 02/28/09 10:53 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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bout the same way with the 260/25-06 & several other close matches,id like to have 1 of every calibur but i have what works for me & have most area's covered with the 243 & 300wm,mike243
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#1206185 - 02/28/09 11:51 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


 Originally Posted By: mike243
bout the same way with the 260/25-06 & several other close matches,id like to have 1 of every calibur but i have what works for me & have most area's covered with the 243 & 300wm,mike243



The big magnums doo indeed need a 26 in barrell and that little bit of steel does not make the rifle that much heavier. The magnums are only better than the 270 at yardages beyond 300 yards so a magnum is not needed for most Tennessee deer hunting. The 270 will do better with a 26 in barrell to so just get a 26 in one , we do not stalk deer in the woods here anymore most guys hunt from a tree stand not with a 30/30 on the ground . So there is no need for fast handling short barrell ear drum busting rifles anymore.

Locksley


Edited by Locksley (02/28/09 11:57 AM)
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#1207188 - 02/28/09 09:34 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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270, you wont regret it.....and your manhood will stay intact when you arent flinching each time you pull the trigger and start missing and blaming the gun............lol!
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#1207201 - 02/28/09 09:39 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


 Originally Posted By: mike243
bout the same way with the 260/25-06 & several other close matches,id like to have 1 of every calibur but i have what works for me & have most area's covered with the 243 & 300wm,mike243



The big magnums doo indeed need a 26 in barrell and that little bit of steel does not make the rifle that much heavier. The magnums are only better than the 270 at yardages beyond 300 yards so a magnum is not needed for most Tennessee deer hunting. The 270 will do better with a 26 in barrell to so just get a 26 in one , we do not stalk deer in the woods here anymore most guys hunt from a tree stand not with a 30/30 on the ground . So there is no need for fast handling short barrell ear drum busting rifles anymore.

Locksley

Some of us still like to stalk. I recently got a 270 for the stand and bean fields. I'll keep my 30-30 for stalking in the woods..
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#1207692 - 03/01/09 09:06 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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IMO: I've had both and if I had to pick one cal. it would be the 270. I liked it so much that I bought a 270 Savage WSM to take out west last year and it took a 6X6 elk down with no problem (shot placement is everything). I for one love the 270 family.
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#1209475 - 03/01/09 10:48 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: WestTn Huntin'man]
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 Originally Posted By: WestTn Huntin'man
 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


 Originally Posted By: mike243
bout the same way with the 260/25-06 & several other close matches,id like to have 1 of every calibur but i have what works for me & have most area's covered with the 243 & 300wm,mike243



The big magnums doo indeed need a 26 in barrell and that little bit of steel does not make the rifle that much heavier. The magnums are only better than the 270 at yardages beyond 300 yards so a magnum is not needed for most Tennessee deer hunting. The 270 will do better with a 26 in barrell to so just get a 26 in one , we do not stalk deer in the woods here anymore most guys hunt from a tree stand not with a 30/30 on the ground . So there is no need for fast handling short barrell ear drum busting rifles anymore.

Locksley

Some of us still like to stalk. I recently got a 270 for the stand and bean fields. I'll keep my 30-30 for stalking in the woods..


Yea when I was up on my feet and stalking deer in my youth I carried a 30/30 Winchester or my old Savage 99 in 308 Winchester. I still only have the 2 x 7 scope on that Savage 99 that I used .
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#1216494 - 03/04/09 10:15 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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270, no sense in taking more recoil for the minimal amount of difference between the 2.
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#1219638 - 03/05/09 11:23 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Kimberman]
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 Originally Posted By: Kimberman
270, no sense in taking more recoil for the minimal amount of difference between the 2.

lol
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#1220105 - 03/06/09 08:55 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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I kind of favor the 7mm.
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#1220333 - 03/06/09 10:43 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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 Originally Posted By: Double-D-Team
IMO: ...... and it took a 6X6 elk down with no problem (shot placement is everything).....


Youíre right, shot placement is everything. Whatever gun you can relax and shoot accurately will be the best gun for you. If you are confident in the rifle, it will serve you well. The deer donít care how fast the projectile is traveling or how big and bad your gun is.
My friend shot a deer in the shoulder with a 300 Wetherby Mag. last year and he never recovered the deer.
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#1230555 - 03/11/09 03:29 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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270
I had a Encore in 7mm mag
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#1268616 - 03/30/09 06:38 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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I have hunted with the 270 since around 1976 or maybe before....hard to remember. I love this cartridge!
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#1268928 - 03/30/09 08:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Boone 58]
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270
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#1276449 - 04/05/09 10:51 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Kimberman]
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 Originally Posted By: Kimberman
270, no sense in taking more recoil for the minimal amount of difference between the 2.


i have a model 70 featherweight in 270 that kicks as hard or harder than any 7mag i have shot.
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#1285562 - 04/11/09 08:32 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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I've got a 270 that I love, though last year I did all my deer hunting with a 260 REM. (Probably will next year, too, since it's such a light little gun (Ruger Compact).

I see no reason to go heavier than 270 in Tennessee unless you're going after big boars in the mountains. Even if you ever get a chance to hunt Tennessee elk the 270 will do with the larger bullet weights.
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#1285910 - 04/11/09 04:09 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: jakeway]
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I dont ever remember feeling the recoil of any gun I ever shot when shooting at game. Just at the range. I have shot many animals with different cal.s any where from a 375H&H to a .22lr
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#1285934 - 04/11/09 04:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: rrhoghead]
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I've got a 270 Winchester that I like , I have hunted with the 270 since around 1976 or maybe before as my rifle is a Bicentenial Ruger 1776-1976 . I like the rifle and the cartridge but the 7MM Remington Magnum cartridge is a fine one too. For that matter the 280 Remington is good also, as they are all close in performance.
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#1287484 - 04/13/09 09:30 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
 Originally Posted By: stik
go with the 270 unless you need to shoot a "magnum" to prove your manlihood.


geez


nothing wrong with a magnum cartridge

270 is well suited for hunting in tn

if you hand load a 7 saum is a much better version of a 7 mag way more efficient

it is all personal prefrence

i hunt with a 270 and 7 saum

killed deer with several calibers
308
300 rum with a 208 amax @ 3313 fps and @ 15 yds 5028 fpe
(over kill ) but deadly
30 30
and a lowly 357 mag pistol with 500 fpe at muz 1160 fps with a 180 gn sjhp


ammo cheaper for 270

either will kill deer all day long cant go wrong either way


I have both and like both. I can get 3000 FPS with a 175 grain bullet out of my 7mm's with a 24" barrel. You won't see the load in a manual, but it is safe in my guns.
The 270 WSM outperforms about all chamberings hands down, even the 300 wsm. I like it the best.
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#1299889 - 04/22/09 01:57 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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270 FOR EAST TN.
7 REM MAG FOR OUT WEST 3OO-400 YARDS SHOTS.
(I HAVE MISSED ALL BUT ONE 300 YARD SHOT IN WYOMING)
BUT THAT ONE WAS FOR THE TEXT BOOKS. WALKING PRONGHORN AND DROPPED HIM IN HIS TRACKS.
MORE LUCK THAN SHOOTER SKILL.
MOST ON MY DEER HAVE BEEN HARVESTED WITH MY OLD WINCHESTER 94
LESS THAN 75 YARD WITH IRON SIGHTS. BUT I MUST ADMIT THE EYES AREN'T WHAT THEY UESD TO BE. AND I MUST GO TO A SCOPE THIS YEAR.

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#1301486 - 04/23/09 01:55 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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7 Mag gets the nod here!
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#1301507 - 04/23/09 02:08 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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270 ammo is CHEAPER and most of the other posts show the other stats. I'm a tight wad and will always choose the most bang for the buck in everything I buy. \:D
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#1303617 - 04/25/09 05:53 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Baxter83]
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270
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#1304964 - 04/27/09 12:27 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Baxter83]
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 Originally Posted By: Baxter83
270 ammo is CHEAPER and most of the other posts show the other stats. I'm a tight wad and will always choose the most bang for the buck in everything I buy. \:D

Well 30/30 and 30-06 are cheaper still that is why I still shoot my old guns some still when I can get to the woods.
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#1306349 - 04/28/09 10:08 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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I shoot a 270. Never have shot a 7 mag. I did see a 7 mag deer at the processor once that had a softball size (or larger) exit wound from bullet fragmentation.
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#1316933 - 05/05/09 09:56 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: A.K.A.]
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7mm Mag.
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#1317606 - 05/06/09 11:53 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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The last deer I shot with a 7 mag was already field dressed for the most part. The same gun gave my son the red scope eybrow. In my honest opinion this one would come down to shooters preference,confidence and ability. Proper bullet placement with a .270 will do the job. If your skills are lacking the 7mm mag can compensate.
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#1318087 - 05/06/09 04:26 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Kentzavol]
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I have to disagree that the 7mm mag can compensate. .007" in diameter difference is not going to do much if anything more than what a 270 can do. A poor shot is a poor shot weather you are shooting a 243 or a 338 win mag.
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#1318609 - 05/06/09 11:35 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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Diameter has nothing to do with it. That is like saying a 30-30 is like a 300 win mag. Both 30 calibers, right ? Same diameters,right? If you look at ballistics coefficients and energy and actual performance on game there is a tremendous difference.Don't get me wrong you can do anything with a .270. Great choice ! 7mag great choice also! Shooters preference,confidence and ability no matter what rifle! I can shoot a moose with a 300 win mag. I would rather not with a 30-30.

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#1318744 - 05/07/09 06:54 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Kentzavol]
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The ballistics of a 270 and a 7mm mag are basically even though. I don't see how it could possibly compensate?
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#1319159 - 05/07/09 11:27 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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I compared factory loads with identical bullets. Using identical 150 grain bullets here is how it came out. At 100 yards the 7mm mag is a little more than 250fps faster. The kicker is it also carries a little more than 450 ft lbs more energy.I have shot deer with both calibers and have seen "softball size or larger exit wounds" like ETNW posted on the 7mm mag. I haven't had this happen with a .270. I actually sold my 7mm mag and kept the .270. I enjoy shooting at the range and the 7mm mag will pound you if you shoot alot of rounds.Shooters preference,confidence and ability no matter what rifle. I love em both \:\)

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#1327681 - 05/14/09 08:35 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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Shoot them both and like them the same. But .270 is cheaper to shoot.
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#1344379 - 05/27/09 08:02 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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270......and you will thank me for the lesser recoil.
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#1362363 - 06/10/09 03:54 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Boone 58]
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I think the main advantage, if you want to consider it one for this area, would be the 7 Mag will handle the 150 grain bullet better than the 270 if you hand load.

I have a 7 mag and shoot the Barnes 150 TSX in it. It does not tear up near the amount of meat as when I used partitions or, God forbid, ballistic tips. They were ugly.

Where we hunt, Hardeman county, two guys shoot the 270,(they make almost as big a mess as the 7 mag) I prefer my A bolt customized in 284 Winchester to my 7 mag. Recoil out of the 7 mag is hardly noticeable, but it's a full custom job made to fit me. My son shoots an Encore in 7-08 and he's dropped many deer in the 200-250 yard range with it and no tracking jobs. Again, nothing but the Barnes 150 gr. bullet.

I know the 270 is very popular, but you can get perfectly acceptable performance out of non magnum (the 30-06 is essentially a non belted magnum case) cartridges and never worry about recoil if you're sensitive to it.

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#1362538 - 06/10/09 06:37 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: CZ284]
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This thread is hilarious. Give a man a .223, that can hit where he aims, and a .223 is superior.

Most that post here cannot tell the difference, because they don't shoot that well.

And I may be one of them - \:\)

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#1363429 - 06/11/09 10:45 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ewc]
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 Originally Posted By: ewc
This thread is hilarious. Give a man a .223, that can hit where he aims, and a .223 is superior.


I agree. I have hunted with a .243 all my life. I also have a .270 I bought a few years ago. Both are great calibers and I have plenty of confidence in both.

I will say between the .270 and the 7mag I would shoot the .270 a lot more at the range. Shooting more is going to lead to better accuracy. And accuracy is what you are looking for, not deciding if you will need a knife for field dressing.
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#1364242 - 06/11/09 08:33 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: thetoolman]
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Ive used the 308 and the 243 and the 270....
I rank them in order 270,308,243.
i dont like the too light of a load bullet in the 243.
I would use the 308 and 270 interchangeably without argument.
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#1401636 - 07/09/09 11:13 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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#1412574 - 07/17/09 09:20 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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i prefer the 7mag just what ive got used to like it a lil better in the clearcuts
have a .280 remmy for the hardwoods
.270 is a good round
i can reload out of the same box of bullits for mine tho
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#1412980 - 07/18/09 10:12 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: pety221]
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remington 700- 270 all the way
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#1412983 - 07/18/09 10:18 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I for one would't trade my 7mag for two 270's walmart has weatherby 7mm mag for less than $400 can't beat it they don't leave there tracks!!
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#1436843 - 08/02/09 11:03 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: SMOKEYJOE]
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shew, talk about getting off the topic!,.. .270 would be your better round, the guns' lighter, the shells are plentyful. and you can find NICE guns worth the money.
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#1437062 - 08/03/09 08:12 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: SMOKEYJOE]
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 Originally Posted By: SMOKEYJOE
I for one would't trade my 7mag for two 270's walmart has weatherby 7mm mag for less than $400 can't beat it they don't leave there tracks!!


and i wouldn't take half a dozen 7mags for my 270. \:D
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#1437160 - 08/03/09 09:34 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I have hunted with both and didnt see any difference between the two as far as the animals reaction to being hit. A good hit is a good hit.
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#1445024 - 08/08/09 07:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
I have to disagree that the 7mm mag can compensate. .007" in diameter difference is not going to do much if anything more than what a 270 can do. A poor shot is a poor shot weather you are shooting a 243 or a 338 win mag.


You have to practice some guys , ya have to hit them to drop them.
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#1450767 - 08/12/09 07:53 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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Have both...use according to where i will be hunting...7mag has more kills
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#1648249 - 12/01/09 10:10 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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 Originally Posted By: mossyoak3d
What would be better for deer hunting? Knock down, bullet price, shooting range etc.


.270. Ammo is cheaper, round has less recoil and does just about everything a 7 mag will do.

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#1652278 - 12/03/09 08:13 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: alwaysoutdoors]
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I recently hunted with reduced recoil 7mm---shots sweet lots less recoil and knocks em dead quick still.
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#1655113 - 12/05/09 12:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: usanglure]
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I sight my 270 in @ 35 yards. Dead on @ 200 yards using 130 grain bullet. Ballistics are very nice!
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#1670710 - 12/13/09 10:31 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: adamf5353]
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7 mag no questions about it
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#1703828 - 01/02/10 08:32 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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I've had both, using the 7mm now but may swap to a 308 this year
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#1720109 - 01/11/10 05:20 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: tbam]
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#1731798 - 01/18/10 07:03 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: lung-buster]
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Ive got a savage 110 7mm mag with a laminate stock, that I had a gunsmith install a match grade muzzle break on. It is very accurate and has a recoil similar to my Remington 700 bdl 243. I took a decent buck with it this year at 100 yards, in the boiler room, and it left an exit hole 3 inches in diameter. It likes the cheap federal ammo.
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#1778668 - 02/10/10 08:48 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
I have to disagree that the 7mm mag can compensate. .007" in diameter difference is not going to do much if anything more than what a 270 can do. A poor shot is a poor shot weather you are shooting a 243 or a 338 win mag.


You have to practice some guys , ya have to hit them to drop them.





 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: SAR Swimmer
I was just sitting here watching the Outdoor Channel. There are guys on here who are shooting deer with a 15 mph crosswind at 750 yards. Now I might be a little bias here because I am an avid bowhunter but c'mon! Do you really call that hunting? I know that they are only airing the shots that connected! They are not showing the injured animals who run off to die (unrecovered) or suffer.

I am very impressed by guys that I serve with who can consistently hit targets at long distances but trying it on an animal????? The absolute best will even admit that it is somewhat unethical on an animal.

Put a bow in these rookies hands and let's see what they can do! IMO, That is when you can determine who is a true woodsman and master of strategy and tactics.

25yds, broadside. He can hear your heart thumping but he doesn't know what the sound is. He smells your breath but he only know that there is a meat eater very close by. He hears you draw and starts to stomp in his natural paranoid personality. You look through your peep and settle your pin just behind his front shoulder.

Just then, he steps behind a tree.

You have begun to shake like a bowl of jelly on a washing machine. You lower your draw with thoughts of "Awww Sh**t".
"This will be the last time I ever see this deer". The deer of my life!!!! "Lord, please make him come back. Please, Please. Please. Please!

Just then, he smells the scent wick that you have placed on the ground about 25 yds out from your stand. He then quarters back and offers you that shot of a lifetime. 25yds, unalerted, quartering away. You place an arrow right into his boiler room and he runs 7 yds or so and you watch him fall.

Now that is hunting!






 Originally Posted By: SAR Swimmer
 Originally Posted By: stik
we have several hunters/shooters(NOT me!!) on this site that are more than capable of making those shots.

Stik, I like the way that you put that "hunters/shooters". I believe that says it all. The two are very different.

I am not knocking rifle or firearms hunters by any means but I get the feeling that these long range shooters are the same guy who is the same guy who feels the need to "keep up with the Jones" rather than appreciate the outdoors and the wildlife.

These are the same guys who could really care less about what they injure and never recover.




 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
hunting for you mabey


hell i ve killed deer with bows compound cross bow and a recurve no sights

but im sorry to hear a bullet impact a deer @ 300 yds or so priceless

heck i killed one with a 30 30 @ 278 this year and a big 12 point 280 yds in 35 to 40 mph winds

it takes skill just like a dang bow

with the right rifle and a person than knows ballistics 750 is very attainable heck iv set and popped 1 gal jugs @ 500 with the 7saum after sighting in @ 50 yds
.4 inche low then dialed 9.25 moa for 500 with a 160 accubond @ 2950 ish fps





 Originally Posted By: bullzeye
I would call 750 yards shooting not hunting.




 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
hunting for you mabey


hell i ve killed deer with bows compound cross bow and a recurve no sights

but im sorry to hear a bullet impact a deer @ 300 yds or so priceless

heck i killed one with a 30 30 @ 278 this year and a big 12 point 280 yds in 35 to 40 mph winds

it takes skill just like a dang bow

with the right rifle and a person than knows ballistics 750 is very attainable heck iv set and popped 1 gal jugs @ 500 with the 7saum after sighting in @ 50 yds
.4 inche low then dialed 9.25 moa for 500 with a 160 accubond @ 2950 ish fps


i was waiting on your response as you are one of the guys i was talking about. and i couldn't agree more.




 Originally Posted By: SAR Swimmer
 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
hunting for you mabey


hell i ve killed deer with bows compound cross bow and a recurve no sights

but im sorry to hear a bullet impact a deer @ 300 yds or so priceless

heck i killed one with a 30 30 @ 278 this year and a big 12 point 280 yds in 35 to 40 mph winds

it takes skill just like a dang bow

with the right rifle and a person than knows ballistics 750 is very attainable heck iv set and popped 1 gal jugs @ 500 with the 7saum after sighting in @ 50 yds
.4 inche low then dialed 9.25 moa for 500 with a 160 accubond @ 2950 ish fps


DA, you have the right to remain silent. LOL! You kill more deer than any of us and we have all confirmed that you have a real good friend in the TWRA and that you go out doing deer counts with him with your rifle via spotlight. LMAO. Just kiddin' man.

But seriously DA, if you had a 750myd shot at an animal with a 15mph crosswind, would you call that an ethical shot?



 Originally Posted By: bullzeye
 Originally Posted By: SAR Swimmer
 Originally Posted By: bullzeye
I would call 750 yards shooting not hunting.

Yup!!!! Exactly!!!!


Imo a hunter in that situation would try to stalk for a better shot.





 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
But seriously DA, if you had a 750myd shot at an animal with a 15mph crosswind, would you call that an ethical shot?





it depends for some folks with a bow @ 20 yds broadside is NOT an ethical shot due to lack of experience and lack of practice

750 yds shot 15 mph cross wind with the right person ethical
IMO yes

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i have no doubt

for me personally
750 with a good rest in a heart beat but with the cross wind i would decline i am not the best doping wind

tim in tn shot an antelope in New mexico 446 yds 20 mph cross wind




Well here we go again .Has OLD TIMER seen this thread yet??
I love to bowhunt with my old recurves . But I have hunted Colorado where long shots at deer are needed .
The shots taken can be sporting or slob hunting depending on who takes the shots. Some people should not be hunting with there crossbows because they do not practice and can not hit the side of a barn at 30 yards.






 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: Locksley
 Originally Posted By: LeatherLungz
 Originally Posted By: 44fanatic
Ive known people who hunted elk with a 243 but never at the ranges mentioned above. 257 Roberts I cant say anything about.

I hunted elk a bit further north in Montana and felt comfortable with a 30-06 out to 300 yards (2" high at 100yds).

Ask your friend if 600 yard shots are common or is it more likely 400 and less (which is what Im thinking).
he insisted on 500-700 yards. Said there is very little cover in the few places he is becoming familiar with. He's out everyday doing field work in some of these areas gets to 'see' these animals.

Tells me that it about their threshold for shyness due to the open terrain there on some of the BLM property.






 Originally Posted By: jb3
7mm stw





I used a 7 mm REemington magnum for Mule Deer and Elk in long rang areas in Colorado . The 7mm stw would be even better as 600 and 700 yards is a heck of a long way off DUDE.






 Originally Posted By: cdw338
I also used a 7mm mag in Colorado. I would also recommend the 7mm STW and a 4 .5 x 14 x 40 or 50 mil scope.

Most shots where I hunted are around 400 yards or so.

Practice and practice some more.





 Originally Posted By: TennBuck

i would consider the 300 WSM, 300 WIN MAG, 7MM REM MAG






 Originally Posted By: Young Buck
I have personally used 7stw and 7ultramag,both of which are excellent long range rifles.





 Originally Posted By: RUGER
 Originally Posted By: jb3
7mm stw


What he said.





 Originally Posted By: DEER ASSASSIN
 Originally Posted By: LeatherLungz
he said the locals out there use .243, .257Roberts and scoff at people that come in with the 'big guns'

< Leon shrugs shoulders >
amen



270 or 06 will work with right scope



7 SAUM





 Originally Posted By: Buck Assassin
.280
.308
.243





 Originally Posted By: make'em strut
what about a 308 they are great long range guns





 Originally Posted By: HenryCohunter
The truth be told Most modern guns are way better than the person shooting them.You can take any Ruger..remington ..Browning.. in a 25-06,270,30-06,243,and several others and make a 400-500 yard shot and kill a mule deer or elk,but as others have said its optics and the practice shooting those yardages.I shoot about 200 rounds a year through my gun at between 150 and 200 yards and a couple dozen at 300.It makes you a much better close range shooter and there is always the chance where i hunt of a 200+ yard shot.All i can say is dont skimp on the optics and practice all you can at 500 yards.





I have a 4X12 wideview old style Weaver scope on my Harry Creaton built Mauser Model 98 in 7 MM Remington Magnum caliber . It has a 25 inch long barrell that is of medium weight not a light whippy barrell. It is a little heavy but back when I was hunting Colorado I was strong enough to carry it all day. It being kind of a heavy Mauser it did not kick much and that action was real smooth where Harry honned the rails and polished up the action before bluing it. That 7MM Remington Magnum Mauser - 98 was real accurate too with a group the size of a dime at 100 yards with the 140 grain spitzer boattail Sierra bullet load I used in it. I would test it out at the Montrose Colorado gun clubs range before the start of the hunt too. The range out there had a steel gong or round plate hung from a chain at the 100 , 200, 300, 400, 500, 600, meter ranges , I wasnt happy unless I could hit the 400, 500, range plates either. The first time I shot it out there on that range was back in 1987 when 6 of us from the old Nashvillle P.O. went out there to hunt Mule Deer . I hit the 100 , then the 200, then the 300, then the 400, and then the 500 marks first time one after the other , cold barrell one shot one hit at each yardage. The guys there sighting in there 338 magnums and 300 magnum were all shooting when I started but the shooting line fell quiet as I proceeded to hit each gong with one shot running the yardages on out to the 5oo mark. After I reloaded I was determined to try the 600 gong so I took my aim and sent the round downrange. Some of the men at the range had spotting scopes out and were looking at that far off steel disk up the side of that mountain from us as I squeezed off my shot. Well I heard no ding from that one . The range was quiet to as all eyes were on that shot so we would have heard it hit. I was only sighted in for 200 yards so the last shots were Kentucky windage and KY gues-ta-mates on that 600 mark gong elevation . The shot hit close because it kicked up a cloud of dust as it was dry and dusty that year. I could not see where it hit high or low as the recoil moved my scope to much , and the guys with spotting scopes could not see the fall of the bullett either. After two more trys at that far off target I quit because I wanted to have enough of my reloads to hunt with. A scope with mill dots would have helped at that long range but mine only had the doule X reticle , and a bullett drop compensator would be nice on a log range scope too.
The scope decides your hit ability as much as your rifle out there in Colorado at long range especially. Get a good scope 4 X 16 or about that power with the features I mentioned on it. A range finder would be a nessary thing at that long range you are talking about shooting at also.
The 308 and 30/06 might be OK at the long ranges with heavy bullets , but the 7 mm shoots with less bullett drop and every little thing helps at those ranges . The 7mm stw would be even better as 600 and 700 yards is a heck of a long way off DUDE.
The range manager let me buy a whole sack full of 7 mm Remington magnum and 300 Winchester magnum once fired cases to take back home with me to . Most of the guys sighting in did not reload and gave me there hulls and the range sold me there cases they were going to resell also. I think that I still have some of those good cases too. I still have my rememberances of the good hunts and shoots in the Big Sky Country of Colorado also. I hope the rememberances of an old deer hunter do not bore you-all to much .





MY limit with my 7 mm magnum 98 Mauser is 400 yards because I have no mill dot scope and I have no rangefinder or bullet drop scope on the 7 mm magnum.



You have to practice a lot on long range shooting guys , ya have to hit them to drop them.
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#1779148 - 02/10/10 12:09 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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I have both, and which ever one i take out of the safe on any given day, is what i use. Deer usually don't go out of sight, when shot with either gun.
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#1854615 - 03/25/10 11:04 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Bullfrog]
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I had a 7mag, liked it very much. Great for clearcuts and field hunting. Most deer dropped in their tracks. Barrel is a little lengthy for hardwoods.
I recently started shooting a 7mm-08. Less recoil,cheaper ammo shorter barrel. Check out the ballistics of this round vs 270. Greater velosity and more down range energy. This is based on a 140 gr 7-08 vs 150 gr 270. Only down fall of this round is that you can't shoot larger bullets. But great round for deer.
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#1958537 - 06/13/10 04:30 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Boone 58]
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 Originally Posted By: camoman270
270, you wont regret it.....and your manhood will stay intact when you arent flinching each time you pull the trigger and start missing and blaming the gun............lol!
all this talk about recoil really depends on what make and model rifle you have

one of the worst kicking guns i ever shot was a 270 which was a ruger that had that stupid looking plastic stock on it

i had a weatherby in the 7 mag that had almost no recoil

i have a ruger 338 that i can shoot a box of shells and just be a little sore the next day

and my dad had a rem bdl in 30-06 that you could NOT shoot more than 3 or 4 rounds before you started to tear up ( he sold it almost as fast as he bought it )

just saying that it depends IMO so just shoot what you feel comfortable with

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#1959497 - 06/14/10 12:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mathews338]
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I love both the 270 and 7mm but i would take my 280 over either any day...Flattest shooting,no recoil hardly, and can shoot a tick off a deers but at 200yds!!!
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#1971700 - 06/24/10 06:12 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mathews338]
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A"little sore the next day can cause a flinch the "next shot"..because the body remembers that pain.
As for "stupid looking plastic stocks"......they perform very well and dont dent scratch or warp like wood.
I have owned both types but at the point of impact and death i never remember the thought rushing thru my head....Man i killed it dead with a stupid plastic stock.............
just saying...... ;\)


i have a ruger 338 that i can shoot a box of shells and just be a little sore the next day

and my dad had a rem bdl in 30-06 that you could NOT shoot more than 3 or 4 rounds before you started to tear up ( he sold it almost as fast as he bought it )

just saying that it depends IMO so just shoot what you feel comfortable with [/quote]


Edited by camoman270 (06/24/10 06:16 PM)
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#1984680 - 07/07/10 12:46 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Number 1 Ruger single shot 7 mag, 160 grain nosler, kicks like a 243.
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#2579360 - 10/22/11 06:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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Thanks....I went with browning BAR .270. Sweet shooting so far!
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#2580156 - 10/23/11 02:02 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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7mm all day long, just man up and dont flinch
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#2580386 - 10/23/11 06:18 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: 7MMAG]
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 Originally Posted By: 7MMAG
7mm all day long, just man up and dont flinch


typical of the "machoism" of many magnum shooters.
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#2580849 - 10/23/11 10:46 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
 Originally Posted By: 7MMAG
7mm all day long, just man up and dont flinch


typical of the "machoism" of many magnum shooters.
it will be ok, some of us got it and some just play with the 22's, im not judging ya or anything
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#2593411 - 10/31/11 02:45 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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Go with the 7mm rem mag - you won't be disappointed.

If you are nervous about the recoil, go with a .308 - thats the top shot anyway
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#2593413 - 10/31/11 02:46 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: 7MMAG]
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 Originally Posted By: 7MMAG
7mm all day long, just man up and dont flinch


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#2593586 - 10/31/11 04:58 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: TiptonHunter]
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I have both in a Rem 700 I would have to vote 7mm Mag had mine since I was 16 can not tell the difference with recoil. Seems like the dead in tracks happens more often with the 7mm than the 270. You don't have to be Rambo to shoot either one of them.Some people are just more sensitive than others.
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#2594420 - 11/01/11 08:35 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: hayman]
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I'll vote for the 270. Just my opinion though.
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#2599042 - 11/03/11 07:10 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Rubberduck270]
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#2599345 - 11/03/11 09:10 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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You might just as well asked if you prefer blondes or brunettes. A man (or woman if you want to be pc) can never have too many guns. The 7 mag is a belted magnum and will take anything in North America except for may-be the big bears but somewhat of an overkill for deer in this part of the country. The 270 is a whitetail gun and other thin skinned game. People always want one gun to do everything. Impossible. Get them both. I have a 270, 300 and a 338. Those cover most but not everything. That's what I tell my wife anyway.
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#2667734 - 12/12/11 07:51 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I have a 270. And I HAD a 300 RUM. No need for the 300 unless you isn't have lots on money to spend on ammo. And an ice pack for your shoulder
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#2688496 - 12/23/11 07:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ffmedic]
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I have both and i feel more confident with the 270.
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#2688571 - 12/23/11 08:36 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: fairchaser]
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 Originally Posted By: fairchaser
You might just as well asked if you prefer blondes or brunettes. A man (or woman if you want to be pc) can never have too many guns. The 7 mag is a belted magnum and will take anything in North America except for may-be the big bears but somewhat of an overkill for deer in this part of the country. The 270 is a whitetail gun and other thin skinned game. People always want one gun to do everything. Impossible. Get them both. I have a 270, 300 and a 338. Those cover most but not everything. That's what I tell my wife anyway.
no bear is walking away from a 7mag if you can shoot it.either one will kill anything in north america, the only thing to consider is matching your bullet for the game.hell i would be confident with a 243 with nosler partion on any animal in north america
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#2689777 - 12/24/11 06:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: fairchaser]
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 Originally Posted By: fairchaser
You might just as well asked if you prefer blondes or brunettes. A man (or woman if you want to be pc) can never have too many guns. The 7 mag is a belted magnum and will take anything in North America except for may-be the big bears but somewhat of an overkill for deer in this part of the country. The 270 is a whitetail gun and other thin skinned game. People always want one gun to do everything. Impossible. Get them both. I have a 270, 300 and a 338. Those cover most but not everything. That's what I tell my wife anyway.

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#2724349 - 01/16/12 07:19 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: tnhoghunter]
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I like mid stream lol i have a sig 270 sighted in at 1in high at 100 yrds and it falls in right on at 300 so i would say it is a toss up to what ya really want
I have a 270 also, and shoot a 130gr bullet. I want to know your secrete to how you have it dead on at 300 yrds, with it shooting a inch high at 100 yrds. If that is what you meant ! Mine sure want do that. I have mine zero in at 300 yrds also, and it is like 3 1/2 inches high at 100. I shot it at both distances to, so I know for sure !

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#2724614 - 01/16/12 09:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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7mag for me. Its 35 years old, its paid for, its pretty to look at and it gets the job done.
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#2741924 - 02/01/12 08:16 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: TiptonHunter]
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of the two ...... 7mm rem mag
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#2829072 - 05/14/12 08:51 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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 Originally Posted By: mossyoak3d
What would be better for deer hunting? Knock down, bullet price, shooting range etc.

Didn't even read all the hundred page of opinions just chose to throw mine out there. I've owned a 270 wsm , 7mag, and a 270 plus other calibers. I learned through my older years of hunting it doesn't matter if you shoot the biggest magnum in the world, if you can't hit with it, it won't matter. IMO a 270, 30-06, 308 is all a person needs for rifle power. All of those are all around calibers for most game.

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#2867991 - 07/06/12 07:05 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


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#2868364 - 07/07/12 08:40 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: knightrider]
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 Originally Posted By: knightrider
.hell i would be confident with a 243 with nosler partion on any animal in north america


i'm not shooting a 1200 lb kodiak brown bear with a varmint gun!!!
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#2868870 - 07/07/12 09:38 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ]
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Although my current deer rifle is a .300 win mag, I own both a .270 and 7mm - 7mm gets the nod.
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#2884660 - 07/24/12 01:52 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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#2884716 - 07/24/12 02:36 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Goose Thumper]
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#2884873 - 07/24/12 05:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: REM7]
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I own both too, so.....
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#2885210 - 07/25/12 12:27 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Rob R.]
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 Originally Posted By: Rob R.
7mag for me. Its 35 years old, its paid for, its pretty to look at and it gets the job done.


i have never heard of making payments on a gun
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#2887336 - 07/26/12 11:58 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: redblood]
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lol @ redblood

1 vote for the 270 here
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#2892053 - 07/31/12 07:34 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Number one Ruger 7mag for me.
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#2892343 - 07/31/12 10:33 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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this has to be the oldest thread ever. i posted on it in spring 2009.
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#2894245 - 08/02/12 04:53 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: redblood]
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#2912330 - 08/18/12 07:59 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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cant beat the 270 best rifle ive ever had
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#2912931 - 08/19/12 02:23 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I have had both and bullet price u want the 270 knock down 7mag if you like to shoot alot you will like the 270's kick the 7mag will knock ur dick in the dirt.
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#2916670 - 08/22/12 04:24 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: white32]
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I own a 7mm and love it. Shot a 270 a couple times (enough to know it is a great gun too) but here is my exp w/ 7mm:

I shoot federal premium ballistics.. and a lot of people complain that it blows the animal to pieces.. however, I shot a bob cat with my 7mm one time and the exit wound was about the size of a .50 piece.. (sounds crazy right? but its true). The cat was huge so I got it mounted.. the taxi had no problem

Also shot a big ol' nanny doe @ 200yds later that day.. the kick jarred me so much I didn't see her run off after the shot (one thing you may want to consider).. I was afraid I missed her..

Then I saw the blood trail and knew I had to start walking.. my buddy then stated "No need to trail her, she is right there!" The doe took about 10 steps into the brush and fell dead.

Before the hunt, all my buddies were making fun of me because I only brought 3 bullets to a full day of hunting.. once I went 2 for 2.. they quit talking [censored]

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#2946455 - 09/17/12 03:36 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ShaneHallum]
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I have owned 7mag and 270 win. Both were a model 700. Both cals are good. I enjoy the 270 a lot better. Ammo cost less, less recoil, and it kills the deer. Also as you get older you will appreciate the lower recoil.
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#2946706 - 09/17/12 06:03 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: white32]
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 Originally Posted By: white32
I have had both and bullet price u want the 270 knock down 7mag if you like to shoot alot you will like the 270's kick the 7mag will knock ur dick in the dirt.

Definatly dont want that!
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#2955542 - 09/24/12 02:39 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


Yea but the 7mm has much more powder behind that round than a 270. Dont forget that part thats like comparing a .177 daisy to a .22

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#2959925 - 09/27/12 06:03 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: white32]
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 Originally Posted By: Model70Man
The 7mm Mag is one of the least efficient cartridges out there. You need to have a longer barrel for all of the powder to burn. That in turn makes you have a heavier rifle. The recoil is also greater than the 270. You really don't have a significant advantage going with a 7mm mag over a 270. A .284 diameter bullet vs a .277 bullet. That's only .007 difference. 7mm Mag factory ammo are also more expensive than 270 ammo too. But in the end, get what you want.


Yea but the 7mm has much more powder behind that round than a 270. Dont forget that part thats like comparing a .177 daisy to a .22


Comparing a BB gun to a 22lr is an apples to oranges comparison and really has no bearing on the 7mm Rem Mag vs the 270 discussion.

You can easily get 3100 fps with a 140 gr bullet out of a 270. Out of a 7mm Rem Mag you can get 3200 fps with the same weight bullet, but burn more powder. 100 fps is not much at all in the hunting world and is basically negligible.
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#2987638 - 10/18/12 01:46 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Model70Man]
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I'd go with the 270 too as the practical approach for a deer rifle. And I'm a varmint hunter at heart who loves big numbers on my chronograph. But once your reach the velocity that a 270 can push the 130 grain bullets(3100+ fps), it's hard to gain much in the way of a flatter trajectory and that's the only gain you might want in a deer rifle. What I mean there is that nobody is going to seriously claim that you need more power than a 270 to kill a deer. It's alway nice to have a rifle that shoots flatter though so range estimation becomes less important.

As my name here implies, I currently hunt deer with a 257Weatherby due to it being - in my opinion - the perfect balance between enough energy to do the job while being small enough in caliber to allow very high velocities to get that laser beam trajectory WITHOUT kicking the snot out of you. But even as good as the 257W may be, if you really look at the numbers for the trajectory with say no more than 3 inches bullet rise above or below line of sight and the 257W gains about 30yds "Point Blank Range" over a 270. Same for any of the other belted magnums. Practically speaking, you gain no performance advantage by going beyond a 270 Winchester for whitetail deer.

But then what does practicality have to do with it? A man NEEDS at least a dozen deer rifles chambered for all sorts of cartridges so we can have discussions like this, right???

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#3022278 - 11/07/12 09:23 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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7mm mag
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#3022401 - 11/07/12 11:04 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: backwoodsoutfitters]
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Never shot a 270, so I can't comment on it.

I have a 7mm Mag. I have a Limbsaver recoil pad on it. When I first got it, I thought it would kick a lot, and...it doesn't really kick much more than my muzzleloader. I shot 10-12 rounds with it last year in the early fall, and it didn't bother me. However, I would not want to shoot a whole box or two of ammmo.

270 ammo is cheaper, though.
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#3025599 - 11/09/12 07:16 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: FLTENNHUNTER1]
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Best of both worlds....Weatherby 270 magnum !
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#3032968 - 11/14/12 11:39 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Killing time]
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Browning or tikka 270 can't go wrong with it. 7 mag is overrated for around here imo
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#3036428 - 11/16/12 01:04 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: deerhunter10]
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I see a ton of recoil comments, however I have never shot ANYTHING that kicks harder than a muzzle loader... except a pump action 3-1/2" mag Slug. I shoot a 7mm, but recommended a .270 to my buddy that just started hunting due to ammo price and more importantly AVAILABILITY. I do believe the 7mm performs a little better, but I also believe it is unnecessary in most cases.

I DO NOT believe the opinions about ballistics being nearly the same. Everyone comments that the same bullet weight and nearly same caliber shoot nearly the same ballistics... impossible! The laws of physics proves if it is nearly the same bullet diameter and the exact same bullet weight... if one kicks harder then there is more energy in that bullet in motion. Period.
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#3037346 - 11/17/12 07:31 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
go with the 270 unless you need to shoot a "magnum" to prove your manlihood.
You hit the nail right on the head.
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#3039802 - 11/19/12 06:00 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: ROVERBOY]
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 Originally Posted By: ROVERBOY
 Originally Posted By: stik
go with the 270 unless you need to shoot a "magnum" to prove your manlihood.
You hit the nail right on the head.

And all this time I thought I had a 7 Mag because I got a helluva deal on the rifle. Silly me.

Shoot what you want; simple concept.
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#3054607 - 11/29/12 08:10 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: BMan]
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270 and 7mm Mag are a better choice hands down, I dont get the over kill deal i shoot deer to kill them whats over kill?
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#3054612 - 11/29/12 08:14 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Tony USMC]
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270 and 7mm Mag are flatter shooting just better ballistics, if you ever want to hunt out west 270 and 7mm Mag are better options. I've been military/Law enforcement for 13 years and shot and still shoot alot 308 and wont use one for hunting, JUST MY OPINION.
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#3076523 - 12/12/12 07:42 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Tony USMC]
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I honestly couldnt tell much difference in the recoil between the two....i do love my 7mmwife mag though although not a thing wrong with a .270
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#3082662 - 12/16/12 08:52 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Tony USMC]
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i use both 7mm when hunting woods .270 when hunting fields both do a fine job i look more at kinetic energy than fps
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#3086053 - 12/18/12 09:06 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: parkerxbowhunter]
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Nuff said, either will do.
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#3103001 - 12/31/12 02:04 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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Man this thread has a lot of opinions,with that said I own a 7 mag. love it and have all the confidence in the world in it.
But,a well known writer and outdoors man who I have a lot of respect for Jack O'Connor,swears that the best round ever made for white tailed deer is the 270.With that said I find myself afield many times with my old 742 woodmaster in 30-06.My wife bought it for me 35 years ago for 189.00 bucks.I could not tell you the deer I have killed with it.
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#3106895 - 01/02/13 09:56 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I shoot a browning x-bolt .270 short mag and a ruger 270 win and would choose them over my 7mm every day without a doubt 7mag to me is just to much gun for a deer JMO
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#3131656 - 01/20/13 10:16 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: turkeyslyr3]
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I have both and I always reach for the 270. It's a fine deer round (as is the 7). As mentioned, Jack O'Conner used the round for everything in North America (except for maybe the big bears) and his wife did the same with an even smaller 257 Roberts.
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#3167490 - 02/17/13 04:33 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Bullfrog]
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Die hard 7mag here. Been shooting one for 18 yrs.Either is a fine choice for deer. Ask yourself if you ever think you might go out west. Just something to think about. Oh, BTW, bought my son a 7mm-08 this year and had to use it some to "try it out". I may have found me a new favorite.
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#3191465 - 03/13/13 09:02 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: elkman]
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I would say .270 for an all around deer rifle(thick woods/ clear cuts)

But like elkman stated if you even think you would go out west the 7mm might not be a bad choice. Out west its not about knock down power but about distance, and thats were the 7mm has its advantage. Other than that the .270 is a fantastic deer rifle.

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#3192969 - 03/14/13 08:20 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Tony USMC]
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I have shot a 7mm mag and it is a cool round, fast and knockdown without a ton of kick, but ammo prices , plus not shooting 400+ yds shots, I absolutely love my standard .270 , it is a great balance. I shot a .270 wsm for years and it was a great round but bullets were expensive and a lot of kick, plus hard to find. I have gotten a .270 and bought about 10 boxes of shells and absolutely love the round . Perfect for tn deer hunting
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#3194073 - 03/15/13 11:08 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: DeerKiller2012]
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Wow, is this thread STILL going? \:D

I shoot a 7mag. The only thing I DON'T like about the 7mag is the ammo price, especially compared to the 30.06, 270, and 308 prices...they are less expensive than the 7mag. I don't reload, so I just deal with the prices.
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#3233394 - 04/27/13 08:13 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: mossyoak3d]
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 Originally Posted By: mossyoak3d
What would be better for deer hunting? Knock down, bullet price, shooting range etc.


I have hunted with the 270 for all but the last 2 years, and now i hunt with the 270WSM.......i have to admit the wsm is a bit more harsh than i anticipated, for i believe the 270 standard to be the best all around cartridge both in killing, flat shooting and recoil that there is out there........having said that i love the 308 as well since i bought my son one and the younger one a 243 which i dont care for at all in the cutover areas i hunt. The 7mm mag is an outstanding cartridge so i recommend you go with what feels right for you. You wont be disappointed if you go with your "heart". I did, and i have never looked back, or at any other cartridge.......I knew it was the right cartridge for me the first time i ever read Jack oconnor and the benoits because some of them use them in pump remingtons. Dude i have been a diehard fan since.!!!
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#3297833 - 07/21/13 04:51 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Boone 58]
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7 mag! don't let that biggun get away! haha
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#3298426 - 07/22/13 09:07 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: holstonangler]
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4.5 yrs and counting and we still havent figured out which is the best
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#3298799 - 07/22/13 02:29 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: redblood]
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Just for giggles I read back through the old posts, we settled the argument years ago. Some are just reluctant to lose lol.
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#3438052 - 11/05/13 07:51 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Rubberduck270]
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I went with .270 WSM...thanks for a the responses!
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#3438309 - 11/05/13 09:43 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Rubberduck270]
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Well I have 3 7mms and 2 270s, I love them both.
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#3445831 - 11/10/13 07:30 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: cdw338]
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7mag....you can shoot 168 & 180gr vlds and can shoot way out there!
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#3476572 - 11/29/13 10:46 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Locksley]
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never used either, but a friend moved from texas a few years back. he shot a sub-100 pound doe at 150 with his 7mag, and he said the bullet vaccumed the heart through the exit wound. he showed me pics on his phone and said "yeah I'm gonna have to get a tennessee-friendly rifle"
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#3492617 - 12/09/13 04:01 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: thetoolman]
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 Originally Posted By: ewc
This thread is hilarious. Give a man a .223, that can hit where he aims, and a .223 is superior.


I agree. I have hunted with a .243 all my life. I also have a .270 I bought a few years ago. Both are great calibers and I have plenty of confidence in both.

I will say between the .270 and the 7mag I would shoot the .270 a lot more at the range. Shooting more is going to lead to better accuracy. And accuracy is what you are looking for, not deciding if you will need a knife for field dressing.



It is true that most hunters do not shoot enough to become good shots with their rifle. Maybe cheaper 270 Winchester cartridges would help them. When I was young we had varmint hunting , but the coyotes ate all the groundhogs.


Edited by Locksley (12/09/13 04:02 PM)
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#3669292 - 05/13/14 12:27 PM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: stik]
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 Originally Posted By: stik
go with the 270 unless you need to shoot a "magnum" to prove your manlihood.


x2 and ammo cost less.

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#3670009 - 05/14/14 09:33 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: DeerKiller2012]
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The 460 Weatherby is superior to either. \:\) It may not have the flat trajectory of either the 270 or 7mm Mag, but it sure makes you feel manly when you let that big 500 grain bullet fly and feel your teeth slap together like a falling toilet seat. \:\)
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#3671471 - 05/16/14 07:26 AM Re: .270 vs. 7mag [Re: Double-D-Team]
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I own both and have taken deer with both. that being said, the last two years I have only hunted with my .270. 7mag is just a little excessive for where I hunt at..

Edited by SX3Mike (05/16/14 07:27 AM)

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