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#1190578 - 02/19/09 02:21 PM Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys
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Who took the first cover picture for BASS magazine and where was it taken?
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#1190624 - 02/19/09 02:41 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: bowriter]
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I tried to cheat on this one, but it bit me in the azz. I searched for "BASS Magazine Cover." I got some dude named Lance Bass on the cover of some really bad magazine. I'm pretty sure Lance has no interst in fishing. Girls either. \:D
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#1190660 - 02/19/09 03:02 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: gil1]
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LOL- The picture for the first cover was shot by Jimmy Holt in Arkansas at the first ever BASS tournament. According to Jimmy, Ray Scott was sleeping in the back of his truck.
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#1190779 - 02/19/09 03:28 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: bowriter]
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 Originally Posted By: bowriter
LOL- The picture for the first cover was shot by Jimmy Holt in Arkansas at the first ever BASS tournament. According to Jimmy, Ray Scott was sleeping in the back of his truck.


"Tennessee Outdoorsman" Jimmy Holt??

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#1190850 - 02/19/09 03:50 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Baxter83]
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Kind of along the lines of this, the bassmaster classic this week, my brother is in Shreveport. He is the "Yamaha" man.
I really have almost zero interest in tournaments though. Last years runins with the wannabes definitely put a sour taste in my mouth. An article on ESPN mentions one of the classic anglers complaining about the locals fishing on the Red River. I guess everyone should give up fishing other than the "pros" when they have a tournament. If they ever had a tournament of the caliber of an elite or flw on Priest, I would wear out their spots from the time they left until the next day or be sitting on them when they came out. I have had my fill of my tournament fishermen.
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#1190928 - 02/19/09 04:30 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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 Originally Posted By: Headhunter
I have had my fill of my tournament fishermen.



Not to start another one of those 77 page threads but I really wish you wouldn't lump everyone who fishes a bass tournament with the jagoffs you had to deal with.

I fish a few tournaments and if someones on a spot I was heading to, I just head to another and don't think nothing about it. Sure some of the "pros" think everyone should bow down to them but not all of 'em.

I saw on TV last year where a pro on KY lake was fishing the Elite series and had a guy idling circles around him graphing the ledge he was fishing, GPSing it. If you ask me, that guy was as big a jagoff as the pros who act like they are entitled to something extra, because they're a "pro".

Let's call a spade a spade. A tool is a tool, whether or not he's even a fisherman.

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#1191295 - 02/19/09 07:51 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: username]
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Before you posted the answer I was sort of doing searches on the cover and found an interesting time line on Bassmasters. From the idea up through the present.

One bullet point I found very interesting was where Ray Scott let Forrest Wood have free advertising in his Bassmaster magazine for several years after the Ranger manufacturing plant was destroyed by fire in the early 70's. He let him advertise for free until he got his business rebuilt.
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#1191875 - 02/20/09 05:58 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Kirk]
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Yeah, he is that kind of guy. He also stuck me with bill for a bowcase he bought at an auction and left without paying for. Well, he didn't actually "stick me" with it. I just paid for it after he walked the bill.
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#1192039 - 02/20/09 07:51 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: bowriter]
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Username, I have spent some time fishing. More than most. I have owned a couple of nice boats. I have ridden in some of the fastest bass boats, fished from them, etc. I now mainly fish from a small aluminum boat that is pushed by a 1962 or 3 model 18 hp evinrude. I do have a 55lb thrust trolling motor on it. You will not outrun my trolling motor with your trolling motor.

One morning last year I was catching hybrids on an island, a bass boat came hauling in and started casting right at my boat and tried to get me to move so he could fish where I was fishing, he actually stated "You are not going to let me fish where your boat is, are you? I am fishing a tournament and you need to move" I said you won't fish here today. The bad part is I was done hybrid fishing and ready to go home, but I did not leave just because he was acting like the southend of mule going north in his attitude beyond the shadow of a doubt.

I was trout fishing this past weekend and talking to a tournament angler who was also fishing for hatchery trout. I mentioned that I have really been fishing for hybrids and stripers more than anything else the past 3 years. He started telling me a story how he and his dad were fishing a tournament on Priest last spring and they saw a guy catching hybrids with topwater bait and they wanted to fish the spot he was own. He said his dad said something like "he is in a small aluminum boat, we'll just pull in front of him". He mentioned how the guy in the aluminum got mad. I asked him several times did you just pull right in front of him? He said yes. I said the next time I will remember and you will go away with 4x strong gamakatsu treble hooks sticking out of ya.

Last spring I cannot even remember how many "tournament" fishermen pulled in front of me, fished within feet of my boat, ran by at 70+ miles per hour inside 100 feet of my boat (I could see where they blasted off from and they had over 1/2 mile of lake to run through and I was about 1 cast from the bank but they HAD to get where they were going fast so they ran right by my boat, I believe I knocked paint off of 2 boat motors, I was also over 1 mile from the launch ramp, it was one of the most pathetic displays of sportsmanship and downright dangerous by 50+ boats in a tournament I have ever seen) and yes I will lump probably about 75 percent of them in the same group.

I rarely meet a polite tournament fisherman when he is on the lake in the middle of fishing a tournament. I do not pull in on them and will not, but have had them fish right up to my boat and under it.

I know of 5 boats that blasted off out of Fate Sanders one Friday night and I was anchored on a drop, catching bass, and they thought they could just not only pull in on top of each other but also run me off, I stayed til they all left and banged one's boat several times with a 1/2 ounce slip sinker. He got the point.

I could keep going, I not only have several of these stories but close to a hundred. I am sure there are some polite tournament fishermen out there, but it is a rare thing.


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#1192059 - 02/20/09 08:01 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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OH, I don't want to thread jack off of the trivia question... BUT! If one of those tournament dudes did that kind of crap to me, even casted at me, I'd try mt hardest to Hit that some gun, with the largest lure with mose hooks on it I had, Right at him... If He go close I'd cast in his boat... I try to be nice when people come up on me when I'm fishing. But if they ask, hey where is a good place for"_____" ex, good place to camp, I tell them and they go on,. But don't come up on me and fish right where I'm fishing... OOOhhh, that makes me mad thinking about it.
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#1192061 - 02/20/09 08:02 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: J Hartman]
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OH classic response to someone who comes up on you like that, Most of the time they will say something like, "catch any" or "hello" or something... I'd just say, "you know, this is a big lake"
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#1192069 - 02/20/09 08:06 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: J Hartman]
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And besides, If they are pros, then I'm sure they can fish in more places than one spot... =)
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#1192174 - 02/20/09 09:05 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: J Hartman]
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I apologize for "hijacking" the thread, but for my 2 cents, which is probably about all it is worth, Tournament fishermen as a whole are barely above leeches in the fishing world. The bad part about it, is when someone pulls up, and justs asks or mentions, hey I am fishing a tournament, you are sitting where I have been catching fish, would you mind if I tried to fish for them? 90+ percent of the time I would move on and wish them the best of luck. It seems as if they almost always see my small aluminum boat and think we can fish around him and he will leave.
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#1192279 - 02/20/09 10:09 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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This is a true story and I guess I can hijack my own thread.

Several years ago, fishing PP with my late friend, Mickey Pope. Some kind of tournament going on, lots of boats. We are on fish pretty good, have the smallies on a road bed in 10 feet of water.

Here this real pretty tricked out boat. Coasts right in on top of us and the guy starts casting between us and the roadbed. Mickey does not say a word and motions me to shut up. He then picks up a surf rod and when the guy casts, Mickey casts across his line, snags it and sets the hook. He then wrapped his line probably 100 pound test, around a davit and fires up the engine and away we go.

Pretty nice rod and reel, best I can recall.
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#1192283 - 02/20/09 10:10 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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My favorite subject, tournament, here is a not so good picture of my brother at the classic. He is in the white or light colored shirt between the 2 wooden poles that support the dock.



He shuns the cameras, but he is on the dock when they blast off. He does say all the pros are good guys.


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#1192332 - 02/20/09 10:37 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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Bowriter, that is my typical experience with them. The only good experience I had was after they fished circles around my boat, they mentioned they were fishing the state team bass tournament or something, I basically said nothing as I was catching hybrid after hybrid. They stupidly asked if I was fishing for hybrids, I did not reply, they did point at a bank and said they were broke off 3 or 4 times by hybrids, and I caught a bunch there for several days, but that is where a lot of the other "tournament" wannabes tried to run me off also.

I do have a reel with 65 lb braided suffix and I can will tie it to a boat cleat.


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#1193051 - 02/20/09 07:30 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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Headhunter,

None of that really surprises me considering you were on Priest. I've dealt with a few jacklegs in my fishing time too and can tell you that it's alot more frequent there than anywhere else I've fished.

I live just as close to KY Lake as I do Preist, and spend most of my time fishing there. I've never had any kind of drama like that go around me over there. Maybe you should just slap the h3ll out of 'em.

Btw, you can rest assured that you'd never have that kind of trouble out of me or anyone that I even associate with that fishes tournaments.

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#1193083 - 02/20/09 07:46 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: username]
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I fish a bunch of tournaments and I have never, ever got with in 100 yards of anyone fishing. They might close the distance and fish toward me but I never work toward them. Far too much water for that to be necessary.
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#1193170 - 02/20/09 08:42 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Kirk]
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I spend more time on the water as most, fish some tournaments, and have buddies that fish all tournaments. I have never had a bad run in with tournament fisherman. This is mostly on Center Hill but not Priest. I do agree though that no one should pull on top or in front of someone on purpose. I would never knowingly do it myself. The majority of the tournament fishermen on Priest may be able to be lumped into the same category, but I disagree with this for the guys that I fish with on Center Hill. A few bad apples can spoil the entire crop. This is the same with road hunters giving deer hunters a bad name. The type of people that do this give tourament fisherman a bad name. I just hate to be lumped in that category.
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#1194262 - 02/21/09 09:02 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: TN Larry]
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I've had just as many jonboats drive right over the top of my bouy marker within 25' of my boat while fishing a tournament. Unfortunately I think it goes both ways, but for the most part the tournament fisherman have been more courteous. Seems like it's the meat hunters that think its OK to fish a spot side-by-side with other boats. I always try to stay at least 100 yards away.
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#1196094 - 02/23/09 07:35 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: JRE]
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Almost forgot, there used to be some trollers that must have thought we knew something also. I almost always anchor when bass fishing a dropoff or a hump. We had found a school of fish that were averaging about 2 lbs on a drop off. They would suspend out over deep water close to the drop, we would anchor on the edge of the drop and throw and let the lure fall through the school, the fish were about half a cast from the boat. You could literally catch a fish or hook one every cast for short periods of time. This same hydra-sport kept wanting to troll through where the fish were hanging, real close to my BMC (I ran a 17-1/2' with a 150 for several years) and the second time it happened, we were there long before they showed and anchored, a buddy of mine was with me, he was 6'-5" over 300 lbs. When they came by trolling with feet of my boat after they had watched us catch several bass, he asked them what were they doing. They said something like were just riding by, Tim said looked like to me you were trolling and they said well, yes. He stood up and said well troll on mother lovers, they left and I never saw them come close to me again.

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#1198013 - 02/24/09 08:44 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Headhunter]
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Never had any problems on Pickwick, Wilson, Wheeler or Guntersville. Folks around here don't worry about that kind of thing.

Course, everyone around here knows that a big lead sinker tied on a stiff rod will hurt like you know what and everyone I know has one tied on.

Especially for the big recreational boats.
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#1198267 - 02/24/09 11:11 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: AlabamaSwamper]
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Dang, I was asked if I would tournament fish with a guy this year. I am excited about it, and the possibility to sling some treble hooks into somebody makes me that much more excited!! I've never fished a tournament in my life but my parents raised me to respect other folks, so I don't take too kindly to not gettin respect back. Sounds like this could be real fun!!!!
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#1202108 - 02/26/09 10:10 AM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: kdxdude]
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I have fished Tournaments for 20 years and can guarantee you most (not all) but most are the nicest people you will meet. I can tell you a hundred stories myself of Jon boats, bank fisherman, pontoon trollers, etc. Doing things on the lake that were downright ridiculous, and way below anything most tournament fisherman would ever consider. You have bad eggs in every group! Use some common sense and sort through it before you paint with too broad a brush!
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#1202489 - 02/26/09 02:19 PM Re: Trivia Question for you Tournament Guys [Re: Winchester]
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Winchester you are, of course, right. But I am starting to see a change. The young guys coming up are not nearly as considerate as the older pros who have been around. It seems that if you have a shirt with a ton of sponsor patches and a wrapped boat, that gives you the right fish a place more so than us common anglers.

Not speaking of you but of the general mindset I am seeing at some of club tournaments on PP and OH. As I said, as a general rule, the real pros, the ones who fish for a lving, are among the nicest guys you can meet on the water. But some of the weekend warriors are real cloacas. I, as I have aged, will not tolerate it any more. I also seldom fish on weekends \:\)
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