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#1176761 - 02/12/09 02:51 PM Federal Flight-Control shells
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Looking at setting up a back-up gun and was wondering if any of you guys had good luck patterning the Federal Mag-Shok shells with the Flight Control wads...

Anyone try the new Strut-Shok shells yet?
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#1176767 - 02/12/09 02:55 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
Wes Parrish
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In my test of Spring 2008, the Federal Flight Control shells gave me the most uniform patterns of the following:

Federal Premium® Mag Shok Hi Velocity Flitecontrol™ Turkey Loads
Winchester Supremes
Winchester Elite Extended Range

They also gave me a denser pattern than the Winchester Supremes.
Win. Elite was marginally "denser" but not as uniform at the Federals.

In my test I was trying to compare as "apples-to-apples" as possible, all loads were 3.5-inch, 2 oz. shot, and comparing same shot sizes. For some reason, my gun/chokes didn't seem to like #6 size shot as well as #5's. My #5-shot patterns were almost as dense as the #6 patterns, i.e. I only had a fraction of the extra pellets on the paper when I switched to #6 loads.

I'm sure different guns with different chokes will get totally different results --- why it's important to pattern test your guns.

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#1176777 - 02/12/09 03:02 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
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One load I'm particularly excited about pattern testing this year is the Federal "Heavyweight" Flight Control Shells.

These pellets are advertised as being over 30% heavier than lead vs. "hevi-shot" being 10% heavier than lead. My thinking is may be able to use smaller sized shot with the Federal "Heavyweights", get a denser pattern, and still have adequate penetration.

In fact, these "Heavyweights" are even offered in a special #7-size shot advertised as having the same energy per pellet as a #5 lead pellet.

This Spring I plan to do extensive pattern testing with the following:

Fiocchi Turkey Thunder Turkey Loads with Nickel-Plated Shot
Federal Premium® Mag Shok Hi Velocity Flitecontrol™ Turkey Loads
Federal Premium Mag Shok Heavyweight Lead Free Turkey Loads

I plan to limit my comparisons to #5 and #6 shot sizes,
unless Federal wants to send me some of those #7's for testing.

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#1176780 - 02/12/09 03:05 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
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In my primary gun (Rem. 870 SM w/ 26" barrel, I had great luck with patterns @40 yards using Win. Sup. HiVol #5's with .665 Gobblin Thunder choke. I recently picked up a Carlson .660 tube, and I have a M.A.D. .655 to try. I tried the flight control #5's with my G.T. tube even though it's ported... the pattern was not impressive. Since the other tubes I have are not ported, I wanted to use the rest of the shells I have left and see what patterns I can get @ 40-45 yards. Then I saw the new Stru-Shok and was thinking about trying those too. My back-up is also a 870 SM w/ 28" barrel so sharing shells could work out.

Keep me informed on those HW shells... I might want to give them a try also..
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#1176807 - 02/12/09 03:27 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
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Like I said, I had good luck with the Win. Sup. HiVol. #5's, but I recently read that a high velocity shell could lead to less than impressive patterns due to the shot scattering out more because it's moving faster. I don't know, but that's what I read. Maybe speed should not be a deciding factor on shells....
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#1176887 - 02/12/09 04:41 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
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those Heavyweight flight control shells sound interesitng. i might have to give them a try. i bet those #7 shot would pattern good outta any shotgun.
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#1177062 - 02/12/09 06:43 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: buckdead]
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a friend of mine used them in his duck hunting gun with a full choke and they performed well for him. i imagine with the flight control cup, a tighter choke may be counter productive. looks like to me, that cup was designed to stay with the shot longer, so a tighter choke may strip too quickly. but that is just a guess.



Edited by WTM (02/12/09 06:43 PM)

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#1177688 - 02/13/09 06:44 AM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
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Technology has come a long way with turkey loads. aaahhh, the days of opening the end of a shell & melting candle wax in there to hold the shot together a little better, good times, good times.
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#1177847 - 02/13/09 08:06 AM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
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Couldn't please me through the ole Mossy???

I'd use em if thats all I had or had an emergency situation!!!!
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#1178805 - 02/13/09 04:57 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
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It's all I shoot in 6 shot 3.5 in mag will hold pattern out to 55 yrds good. Using a Benelli Nova with a gobble stopper choke.
I've tried them all and these are by far the best.
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