Tndeer Logo

Page all of 2 12>
Topic Options
#1176761 - 02/12/09 02:51 PM Federal Flight-Control shells
Grizzly Johnson Moderator
Team Grizzly
16 Point


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 15287
Loc: Tennessee

Offline
Looking at setting up a back-up gun and was wondering if any of you guys had good luck patterning the Federal Mag-Shok shells with the Flight Control wads...

Anyone try the new Strut-Shok shells yet?
_________________________
But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Top
#1176767 - 02/12/09 02:55 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
Wes Parrish
16 Point


Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 19343
Loc: Knoxville-Dover-Union City, TN

Offline
In my test of Spring 2008, the Federal Flight Control shells gave me the most uniform patterns of the following:

Federal Premium® Mag Shok Hi Velocity Flitecontrol™ Turkey Loads
Winchester Supremes
Winchester Elite Extended Range

They also gave me a denser pattern than the Winchester Supremes.
Win. Elite was marginally "denser" but not as uniform at the Federals.

In my test I was trying to compare as "apples-to-apples" as possible, all loads were 3.5-inch, 2 oz. shot, and comparing same shot sizes. For some reason, my gun/chokes didn't seem to like #6 size shot as well as #5's. My #5-shot patterns were almost as dense as the #6 patterns, i.e. I only had a fraction of the extra pellets on the paper when I switched to #6 loads.

I'm sure different guns with different chokes will get totally different results --- why it's important to pattern test your guns.

Top
#1176777 - 02/12/09 03:02 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
Wes Parrish
16 Point


Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 19343
Loc: Knoxville-Dover-Union City, TN

Offline
One load I'm particularly excited about pattern testing this year is the Federal "Heavyweight" Flight Control Shells.

These pellets are advertised as being over 30% heavier than lead vs. "hevi-shot" being 10% heavier than lead. My thinking is may be able to use smaller sized shot with the Federal "Heavyweights", get a denser pattern, and still have adequate penetration.

In fact, these "Heavyweights" are even offered in a special #7-size shot advertised as having the same energy per pellet as a #5 lead pellet.

This Spring I plan to do extensive pattern testing with the following:

Fiocchi Turkey Thunder Turkey Loads with Nickel-Plated Shot
Federal Premium® Mag Shok Hi Velocity Flitecontrol™ Turkey Loads
Federal Premium Mag Shok Heavyweight Lead Free Turkey Loads

I plan to limit my comparisons to #5 and #6 shot sizes,
unless Federal wants to send me some of those #7's for testing.

Top
#1176780 - 02/12/09 03:05 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
Grizzly Johnson Moderator
Team Grizzly
16 Point


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 15287
Loc: Tennessee

Offline
In my primary gun (Rem. 870 SM w/ 26" barrel, I had great luck with patterns @40 yards using Win. Sup. HiVol #5's with .665 Gobblin Thunder choke. I recently picked up a Carlson .660 tube, and I have a M.A.D. .655 to try. I tried the flight control #5's with my G.T. tube even though it's ported... the pattern was not impressive. Since the other tubes I have are not ported, I wanted to use the rest of the shells I have left and see what patterns I can get @ 40-45 yards. Then I saw the new Stru-Shok and was thinking about trying those too. My back-up is also a 870 SM w/ 28" barrel so sharing shells could work out.

Keep me informed on those HW shells... I might want to give them a try also..
_________________________
But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Top
#1176807 - 02/12/09 03:27 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
Grizzly Johnson Moderator
Team Grizzly
16 Point


Registered: 10/07/08
Posts: 15287
Loc: Tennessee

Offline
Like I said, I had good luck with the Win. Sup. HiVol. #5's, but I recently read that a high velocity shell could lead to less than impressive patterns due to the shot scattering out more because it's moving faster. I don't know, but that's what I read. Maybe speed should not be a deciding factor on shells....
_________________________
But if thou do that which is evil, be afraid; for he beareth not the sword in vain: for he is the minister of God, a revenger to execute wrath upon him that doeth evil.

Top
#1176887 - 02/12/09 04:41 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
buckdead
8 Point


Registered: 11/02/08
Posts: 2275
Loc: southern middle tn

Offline
those Heavyweight flight control shells sound interesitng. i might have to give them a try. i bet those #7 shot would pattern good outta any shotgun.
_________________________
if your gonna be stupid you gotta be tough.

Top
#1177062 - 02/12/09 06:43 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: buckdead]
WTM
8 Point


Registered: 10/16/08
Posts: 1956
Loc: CAMDEN, TN

Offline
a friend of mine used them in his duck hunting gun with a full choke and they performed well for him. i imagine with the flight control cup, a tighter choke may be counter productive. looks like to me, that cup was designed to stay with the shot longer, so a tighter choke may strip too quickly. but that is just a guess.



Edited by WTM (02/12/09 06:43 PM)

Top
#1177688 - 02/13/09 06:44 AM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
kdxdude
10 Point


Registered: 11/14/06
Posts: 4049
Loc: Cleveland, Tn.

Offline
Technology has come a long way with turkey loads. aaahhh, the days of opening the end of a shell & melting candle wax in there to hold the shot together a little better, good times, good times.
Top
#1177847 - 02/13/09 08:06 AM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Grizzly Johnson]
spitndrum
Team TLBB Woodpile Boys
Non-Typical


Registered: 03/09/06
Posts: 51376
Loc: Cumberland Plateau

Offline
Couldn't please me through the ole Mossy???

I'd use em if thats all I had or had an emergency situation!!!!
_________________________
<(((< Bowfish or NO FISH!
SUPREME HUNTING OUTDOORS PRO STAFF

Top
#1178805 - 02/13/09 04:57 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: ]
turkeyhunter64
8 Point


Registered: 12/07/07
Posts: 1961
Loc: TN

Offline
It's all I shoot in 6 shot 3.5 in mag will hold pattern out to 55 yrds good. Using a Benelli Nova with a gobble stopper choke.
I've tried them all and these are by far the best.
_________________________
Dream like you are going to live forever, Live like you are going to die tomorrow...James Dean

Top
#1182527 - 02/15/09 10:03 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: turkeyhunter64]
medwc
8 Point


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 1466
Loc: Clarksville, TN, hunt FCKY an...

Offline
Hey Wes, what gun you doing the testing with? Would the Federal Flight-Control shells work better in a regular barrel compared to an overbored barrel? I have no clue, but it would seem the overbored would let it spread some or wobble. ?yes/no?

Edited by medwc (02/15/09 10:07 PM)
Edit Reason: clueless

Top
#1186661 - 02/17/09 07:26 PM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: medwc]
Wes Parrish
16 Point


Registered: 06/12/02
Posts: 19343
Loc: Knoxville-Dover-Union City, TN

Offline
 Originally Posted By: medwc
Hey Wes, what gun you doing the testing with? Would the Federal Flight-Control shells work better in a regular barrel compared to an overbored barrel? I have no clue, but it would seem the overbored would let it spread some or wobble. ?yes/no?

I'm using a Mossberg 935, purchased Spring 2008.
Was told they patterned better than a Benelli and kicked less than an 835. ;\)
Actually, main reason I picked this as a dedicated "turkey" gun was "quiet" carry (compared to the 835) and I couldn't find a gunsmith willing to mount a scope on my old turkey gun, i.e. I needed to go to optical sights due to my "old" eyes.

The Mossberg 835 and 935 use the same choke tubes, one is a pump, the other is a gas autoloader.

The Federal flight-control shells are not supposed to work well in ported chokes, i.e. most after-market "turkey" tubes. However, I had very uniform patterns with the Jellyhead ported turkey choke using these Federal shells. But the Mossberg "factory" turkey tube that came with the gun --- to my surprise ---- as good or better than the Jellyhead, no matter what I shot thru it.

I decided to hunt with the factory choke mainly because it was shorter and had no "shine". The Jellyhead tube was "shiny".

Top
#1187764 - 02/18/09 10:41 AM Re: Federal Flight-Control shells [Re: Wes Parrish]
medwc
8 Point


Registered: 11/09/08
Posts: 1466
Loc: Clarksville, TN, hunt FCKY an...

Offline
Yeah, I am a mossberg shooter too. I have 3 mossturds but none are "turkey" guns. I only hunt Ft Cambpell and LBL so I only need a bow, muzzleloader and turkey gun. I have the bow and muzzleloader setups I am happy with but not a "turkey" gun.

So with that said, I was looking at the mossturd 535 turkey(I have 2 835s just don't have short turkey barrels). The only diff from the 835 is the 535 is lighter, shorter mag tube, and NOT overbored. So this topic on the Federal Flight-Control shells had me wondering if they would work better/worse, the same in a regular 12 gage verses an overbored. I guess there is one way to find out. \:\) Buy the 535!!!

Top
Page all of 2 12>


Moderator:  RUGER, Bobby G, Unicam, Cuttin Caller, CBU93, stretch, TurkeyBurd, Kimber45, Mrs.Unicam, Crappie Luck, Grizzly Johnson 
Hop to:
Top Posters
4105626
RUGER
87189
Deer Assassin
65456
BSK
61105
Crappie Luck
51376
spitndrum
Newest Members
OfficerBuck, rapalabuck, medic2fpc, MachDR, pop
13308 Registered Users
Who's Online
17 registered (wcsd462, MObowman, TAFKAP, Vermin93, splatter, thehoytman, 1 invisible) and 57 anonymous users online.
Forum Stats
13308 Members
42 Forums
94018 Topics
1098231 Posts

Max Online: 788 @ 11/11/13 08:06 PM
Moon Phase
CURRENT MOON
October
Su M Tu W Th F Sa
1 2 3 4
5 6 7 8 9 10 11
12 13 14 15 16 17 18
19 20 21 22 23 24 25
26 27 28 29 30 31
Forum Donations
The TnDeer.Com Deer Talk Forum is for Tennessee Deer Hunters by Tennessee Deer Hunters. If you enjoy using our Talk Forum and would like to contribute to help in it's up-keep. Just submit your contribution by clicking on the DONATE button below and paying with PayPal or a major credit card. Any amount is much appreciated. Thanks for your support!

TN Burn Safe

Generated in 0.137 seconds in which 0.001 seconds were spent on a total of 14 queries. Zlib compression enabled.